Have you guys seen this shit?
This is off the charts violence...
um manhunt? where you go around strangling people to death? that was a very violent game for the time and now.
Or fallout 2 where you can shoot a kid in the groin with a 44 cause he stole my shit! then the kid throws a grenade at me.
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