Apparently, it's the prequel to
Alien. It deals with the Space Jockeys, the race that created both the Xenomorphs and humans.
Can't fuckin wait!
Quote from: Beerjerk on January 16, 2012, 11:32:24 PM
Apparently, it's the prequel to Alien. It deals with the Space Jockeys, the race that created both the Xenomorphs and humans.
I read that the rewrites have made it so its less of an alien movie. Supposedly still awesome but not what is expected
Quote from: Demon Lung on January 17, 2012, 10:19:57 AM
Quote from: Beerjerk on January 16, 2012, 11:32:24 PM
Apparently, it's the prequel to Alien. It deals with the Space Jockeys, the race that created both the Xenomorphs and humans.
I read that the rewrites have made it so its less of an alien movie. Supposedly still awesome but not what is expected
There are no Aliens in the movie.
Quote from: willb on January 17, 2012, 03:23:37 PM
Quote from: Demon Lung on January 17, 2012, 10:19:57 AM
Quote from: Beerjerk on January 16, 2012, 11:32:24 PM
Apparently, it's the prequel to Alien. It deals with the Space Jockeys, the race that created both the Xenomorphs and humans.
I read that the rewrites have made it so its less of an alien movie. Supposedly still awesome but not what is expected
There are no Aliens in the movie.
does everything have to be explained to you? It's supposed to be a prequel but it been rewritten so much that it's not much of a prequel. When I said alien I thought it was obvious that I was talking about the alien movie Franchise and not aliens.
Listen cocksmoker, this is exactly what I was saying you fucknut. When I said Aliens I meant Aliens, you know from the fucking movie you cuntface. Damn you're one ignorant shit on the internet.
Do me and yourself a favour and fuck off and don't respond to my posts and I'll do the same for you.
I can't wait to see this. The trailer looks awesome.
This movie is really bothering me. It's crawling all over my skin, I'm really excited for this movie. I need to shelter myself from any new material. My hopes are up way too high.
UK Trailer version
Just about the same.
Fuckin' hell very excited for this movie.
this movie is going to kill..i love the aliens movies. the timing on this couldnt have been better. im getting sick of superhero movies.
Reviews are coming in - so far, so good.
Watching it tomorrow. Can't fucking wait!
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Quote from: eugenicscum on June 08, 2012, 03:49:24 AM
Watching it tomorrow. Can't fucking wait!
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I'm kind of bummed since the reviews are getting pretty mediocre. I was hoping it would be flawless but apparently there is a lot to be desired. I'm sure I'll still like it though.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/prometheus_2012/
It was good...not great.
Fun to look at.
Can't touch ALIEN, but is easily better than all the Alienz bullshit.
What a disjointed mess. And I wanted to love it. Just one yawn-inspiring move after another.
Certainly visually accomplished (though what was with Noomi's face? Didn't she used to be young and cute looking?) and I guess you have to attempt a story on this "mythic" scale so as not to repeat the "haunted house in space" format of ALIEN or the rollercoaster ride of ALIENS. But still, even though technically impressive, who cares about the characters's philosophical meanderings, total interchangeability and sense-defying plot moves?
And hey, guess what? Guy Pearce as a super old guy looked about as convincing (as virtually every other old age makeup out there) as James Caan and Bette Midler in "For The Boys"!
Quote from: boltthrow on June 08, 2012, 08:13:14 PM
What a disjointed mess. And I wanted to love it. Just one yawn-inspiring move after another.
Certainly visually accomplished (though what was with Noomi's face? Didn't she used to be young and cute looking?) and I guess you have to attempt a story on this "mythic" scale so as not to repeat the "haunted house in space" format of ALIEN or the rollercoaster ride of ALIENS. But still, even though technically impressive, who cares about the characters's philosophical meanderings, total interchangeability and sense-defying plot moves?
And hey, guess what? Guy Pearce as a super old guy looked about as convincing (as virtually every other old age makeup out there) as James Caan and Bette Midler in "For The Boys"!
i hope im not sophisticated enough to be put off by that..
Old age makeup is/was horrendous.
Why don't they just get elderly actors??
Also, too much of a made-for-television sci-fi vibe.
If it wasn't Ridley, I wouldn't have bothered to see it.
Even the Ridley Scott factor was kind of nonexistent. I didn't sense anything that couldn't have been done by a million other contemporary directors.
I mean, yes, the effects were astonishing and seamless and the planet was rendered terrifically (the sound design was particularly good in that silica storm) but there wasn't even one single scene that had a slow creep build-up like Ripley and Dallas searching the medlab for the facehugger that disappeared off of Kane or the "Dallas in the air shafts" sequence in the original. Good directing to me is usually foregoing the sfx and slowing things down to make the audience squirm.
Of course Ridley would say he didn't want to repeat the first movie -- so he ended up just doing fairly boring scenes from a million other space movies. I also thought Logan-Marshall whatshisname as the husband was fairly bad and Charlize was pitched way too arch.
Bottom line: this one left me feeling about as empty and unsatisfied as Alien 3 and 4.
Bummer all around, I guess.
Not that bad. It was the best Alien film in years. Had some odd moments/choices and as Jor El noted a TV vibe. I was entertained and not bored though. So, it did what it was supposed to.
Hasn't Scott said several times that it is not an alien movie?
Also, I hated the score from the get-go. Very similar to the John Williams Superman theme.
Yeah, the music pissed me of.
Yeah, the music was too sentimental and sad. I felt like it was trying to make me cry, not scare me. Same with the main actress, every time she did that dreamy stare off into space crap it made me want to punch her. It was like a fucking Zoloft commercial.
However, I read your reviews on here first, so my expectations were lowered, and I think that helped me enjoy it.
I also agree with Bolt that they needed to slow it down in spots. It had a nice brisk flow that kept it from getting boring, but it also kept anything from sinking in.
Worth seeing in the theater for the visuals. It will not blow your mind. Good summer flick, not great art.
*Edit
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Alien Resurrection or any of the AVP atrocities, but like most sequels, not as good as the first.
SPOILER ALERT
That the space jockeys were just kind of big albinos with no clear motive was such a let down, and pretty much the downfall of the movie. WTF?
/end spoiler.
I thought you were gonna tell us that one of the crew members was a robot.
Quote from: Jor el on June 10, 2012, 02:15:15 PMI thought you were gonna tell us that one of the crew members was a robot.
Charlize Theron wasn't THAT bad.
Yeah, I went there.
a mess. They even tried to introduce zombies.
MORE SPOILERS...
Several of my biggest questions:
1) That self-operating medical pod that Shaw birthed the little squid in was "male only"? Really? It's so advanced but can't have a little more software to accommodate female surgical procedures?
2) Old man Guy Pearce didn't know daughter Charlize was onboard until he woke up in the third act? Really?
3) Most of the crew had never met/didn't know what the mission was until they woke up? Really?
3) The rooster-haired geologist and his buddy wanted to go back to the ship but lost their way and stayed inside the alien mountain and never made it back to the Prometheus without anyone knowing? Really? They were in contact with the ship the whole time because after the storm hit the captain told 'em to stay put til morning.
4) The Captain was playing a fucking squeezebox? Used to belong to Stephen Stills? Really? And guess what? He and Charlize went off and fucked just so no one was watching the hologram to see what was going on in Alien Mountain!
5) What was the difference between the room with the huge head and upright "vases" and the "storage room" with thousands of more stacked vases?
6) What exactly were the holograms of the engineers running around? Just an easy way for David to watch them and then figure out how fly the ship later?
7) David knocked out Shaw on the medlab table after diagnosing her pregnancy but then left so two other people could come and move her to the cryo chamber (giving her the chance to knock them out and run to surgery pod? Really?
8) Shaw and her husband (boyfriend?) were so into finding these aliens but the moment they find them, she keeps investigating but he goes off and starts drinking?
9) It seemed like David's mission was the get things ready for Guy Pearce and his meeting with the engineers. So what was the point of infecting Shaw's husband?
10) At the end, the big alien ship flew up into the sky, Prometheus rammed into it causing it to crash and fall -- and yet David's head stayed pretty much the exact same place in the jockey chamber after the crash when he started talking to Shaw?
Quote from: retardgroove on June 10, 2012, 04:13:12 PM
a mess. They even tried to introduce zombies.
That too.
The more I think of it the worse it gets. I still had fun, but way not what I wanted or expected.
I agree with all Bolt's questions, except #6 which I assumed was some sort of "black box" playback that showed how each of the Space Jockey's died. But that was just an inference on my part.
you can make any movie suck if you want to ask the hard questions.
Quote from: boltthrow on June 10, 2012, 04:39:45 PM
8) Shaw and her husband (boyfriend?) were so into finding these aliens but the moment they find them, she keeps investigating but he goes off and starts drinking?
SPOILERS
That dude was so horribly miscast... Its the worst job of casting I can think of. Seriously. Its worse than Seth Rogan as the Green Hornet.
If he was an older man it would have made so many of the relationships between the characters so much more intriguing. The conversation of her not being able to have kids even - you would be wondering if it was her, or if it was him.
Him going off drinking when they got back from the ship because he was despondent about feeling as if he had wasted all those years of research - yeah that angle would have had a little more resonance if he didn't look like a 26 year old Calvin Klein underwear model.
It would just make sense that she would have a father figure in her life after they revealed her history with her father. Wouldn't that be a nice dash opf reason to this stupid movie?
And the real bummer about this crappy movie is this:
'Prometheus' vs. 'At the Mountains of Madness': How Ridley Scott's 'Alien' prequel killed Guillermo del Toro's dream projecthttp://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/06/10/prometheus-ridley-scott-guillermo-del-toro-lovecraft/
Quote from: mortlock on June 10, 2012, 11:38:08 PM
you can make any movie suck if you want to ask the hard questions.
Those aren't hard questions, they're Questions About Things That Could Have Easily Been Done Differently And Not Ruined The Suspension Of Disbelief.
Here's another one: was it necessary to not only have her unable to have kids but ALSO have her Dad (TV's former A Gifted Man, Patrick Wilson) die of Ebola? It's kind of redundant (and confusing) motivation for her quest. They made more of the latter (her desire to believe in a Higher Power) being her "drive to discover" (kind of a rip from "Contact") but the former seems like it'd be a helluva lot more emotionally powerful and yet it was just kind of tossed in there as a plot point to get to the confusion about her being pregnant.
And let's get back to Noomi Rapace's face. She looked great (and young) in Dragon Tattoo from only a few years back. Now she looks like a botoxed 40 year old Mom. What the hell happened to her?
Oh, thats where our rivers part my friend.
I think she's a honey.
for whatever its worth I went into it with low-ish expectations, having only seen the trailer and reading nothing about it beforehand, and I enjoyed the fuck out of it. it wasn't a deep allegorical or philosophical film, but I don't think that's what it was supposed to be. it was a decently written and performed eyegasmic science fiction flick imo
Yeah but you're a gaywad.
That helmet with the light-up visor looked like a prop from Walt Disney's "The Black Hole."
Quote from: boltthrow on June 11, 2012, 10:20:45 AM
Quote from: mortlock on June 10, 2012, 11:38:08 PM
you can make any movie suck if you want to ask the hard questions.
Those aren't hard questions, they're Questions About Things That Could Have Easily Been Done Differently And Not Ruined The Suspension Of Disbelief.
Here's another one: was it necessary to not only have her unable to have kids but ALSO have her Dad (TV's former A Gifted Man, Patrick Wilson) die of Ebola? It's kind of redundant (and confusing) motivation for her quest. They made more of the latter (her desire to believe in a Higher Power) being her "drive to discover" (kind of a rip from "Contact") but the former seems like it'd be a helluva lot more emotionally powerful and yet it was just kind of tossed in there as a plot point to get to the confusion about her being pregnant.
And let's get back to Noomi Rapace's face. She looked great (and young) in Dragon Tattoo from only a few years back. Now she looks like a botoxed 40 year old Mom. What the hell happened to her?
i dont know, but i did notice there was a few good foot fetish shots of her feet..especially the soles..dont think that was random..
Here's a way to ruin the movie totally: when you see Guy Pearce, try not to think of old Biff in "Back To The Future II."
I kept thinking he was going to light up like Lo Pan....
Just saw a Coors lite / Prometheus commercial.
wtf?
"And hey, guess what? Guy Pearce as a super old guy looked about as convincing (as virtually every other old age makeup out there) as James Caan and Bette Midler in "For The Boys"!"
I kept thinking of Johnny Knoxville.
as for the zombie dude, I was thinking it was like zombie-fied victims in The Thing. like the alien was adapting so as not to just kill off and waste the host body.
so what's up with the dude at the beginning? was he rebelling against the engineers and sacrificing himself to create the primordial alien soup that would potentially infect everyone?
I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, so there's a few things I didn't understand about this movie.
SPOILERS
Firstly, yeah, what's with the guy drinking whatever that shit is and then freaking out and the subsequent metamorphosis before he falls into the waterfall? What was the point of that? He falls into water. Wouldn't whatever effect he hoped to accomplish be diluted and/or negated by falling into the waterfall?
Secondly, there is an allusion made in the movie (or somewhere) that the synthetic "David" somehow infected what's his face that Charlize Theron uses the flame thrower on. Where does he do that? I missed that, I guess.
Thirdly, and most confusing to me, this planet is the planet where the first alien is found in the first movie, right? So the distress beacon that wakes up the crew of the ship from the first movie is from the ship that crashes due to Prometheus? If I'm right about that, then, as I recall, when the crew goes out to explore the ship in the first movie and enter the chamber where John Hurt ultimately gets the creature attached to his face. In that chamber, there is one of the "engineers" sitting in the very same seat that the engineer sits in to launch the craft in Prometheus. Is that supposed to be the same engineer in Alien? If so, how? The alien is birthed in Prometheus after the struggle between the engineer and whatever the hell that thing is. Yet, in Alien, the engineer is in the chair and it's obvious that something has broken out of its crib cage in the chair. That doesn't fit. What gives? Is it a different engineer entirely? A different planet? A different ship on the same planet?
Different ship - same planet
"Secondly, there is an allusion made in the movie (or somewhere) that the synthetic "David" somehow infected what's his face that Charlize Theron uses the flame thrower on. Where does he do that? I missed that, I guess."
David's back at the ship and "curious" about the alien fluid sample he took from alien mountain and puts some on his finger. when he catches up with what's his face while what's his face is alone drinking, David asks him what he'd be willing to do to find out about the life forms they found (or something to that effect). what's his face answers "anything", and just before David hands him a drink he dips his pinky into the drink and instant alien roofie
Ah ha! See, I totally missed that.
Thanks, priesty!
Quote from: Jor el on June 14, 2012, 04:23:04 PM
Different ship - same planet
Which would imply more than just one "engineer" was still alive and in suspended animation. I see.
Last weekend I was at a Wedding reception where the server did the DNA dip type dealio with the water pitcher.
Apparently it's easier to carry the pitcher by the spout.
Firstly, yeah, what's with the guy drinking whatever that shit is and then freaking out and the subsequent metamorphosis before he falls into the waterfall? What was the point of that? He falls into water. Wouldn't whatever effect he hoped to accomplish be diluted and/or negated by falling into the waterfall?
the point is his dna was released into the water, thus spawning humans. thats how they created us. evolution.
Got it.
I didn't realize the planet at the beginning was Earth. I thought it was either the engineer's home planet or the one the movie takes place on.
me too.
here's a couple of helpful links:
http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x1YuvUQFJ0&feature=player_embedded#!
I thought I read somewhere that the Prometheus planet is not the same one from Alien. The engineers are traveling all around the universe and seeding life everywhere (like in the opening scene on Earth or not Earth). Also, in Alien the ship was above ground (which makes me wonder why the Prom engineer ship was below ground somehow).
I'm still pissed why Dragon Tattoo got this Noomi...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/boltthrow/movie-tv-music/girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-noomi-rapace.jpg)
And Prometheus got this one...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/boltthrow/movie-tv-music/noomi-rapace-as-elizabeth-shaw-in-prometheus.jpg)
But what is clear is that the alien life form from the first movie is a result of the thing taken out of Shaw coupled with incubation in an Engineer. Therefore, the alien is, in the end, part human (to some extent). So, with that mind, whatever planet is in the first Alien, the ship sending the distress signal the crew finds has been on the Prometheus planet, obviously. Or maybe not ... who the fuck knows? For a movie I didn't like to a tremendous degree, it certainly has me thinking about it.
Btw, that link priest posted helped a lot in understanding some of the finer plot details that completely alluded me when I saw it. So, thanks.
The geologist should have been dead from the acid and helmet melting from his face. Also, when he goes back to the ship, he appears to be much bigger than before. Bullshit. Character should have remained dead in the movie, instead it felt like it was an action scene that was forced in to take away from the slow-ish pace of the movie.
Should have been done by james cameron, or someone competent.
It is no Rock of Ages
Saw it yesterday and my thoughts:
I like the casting, the visuals, the pacing, the special effects......
But I hated the premise....and that's what sunk the movie for me. So yeah, I agree with Bolt and the others.
I really wish this movie was never made to be honest. I like seeing the Space Jockey in the beginning of Aliens and I think I would have prefered not knowing how the Space Jockey got there. I would prefer to live with the mystery rather than have all of this explained (at least sort of explained) in Prometheus.
Therefore, the alien is, in the end, part human (to some extent).
actually no..the humans and the space jockys are simply host bodies for the incubation period..a high school biology text book wouldnt hurt you one bit..just sayin..
I could argue the point, but I don't care to ... you win.
what did i win??
A swift kick in the balls.
Your assessment of my knowledge of biology aside, after thinking about my reasoning a bit more, I'm probably off the mark with my earlier reasoning.
I liked it a lot more on second viewing. I had to see it again after reading stuff on the web about Space Jesus and stuff like Priest posted. Definitely gives it a whole different feel.
I also think Charlize Theron (Vickers) was a Robot. She and David are both blond haired and blue eyed. Both call Weyland father. Both want him dead so they can be free of his programming. David calls Vickers "mother", indicating she may have come first. It also makes sense that Weyland prefers the more advanced David model, which makes Vickers jealous. David is a curious robot, Vickers a jealous one.
Theron's acting is cold. She kills the scientist without much guilt. She does everything mechanically. She has a life pod with a male only machine. She calls Weyland father, but they don't act like a family.
The biggest clue is 2 back to back scenes: First we see them examining the Engineer head, and they ask David to lift the helmet because it's so heavy. He shows off his super human strength. The very next scene shows Vickers pick him up and slam him against the wall so hard it changes the pitch of his voice (like a dying tape deck). She then threatens to rip his circuits out or something to that effect.
David also talks a lot about blending in with humans to make them feel more comfortable.
And it answers a lot of Bolt's questions when you see the little details the second time through.
1) That self-operating medical pod that Shaw birthed the little squid in was "male only"? Really? It's so advanced but can't have a little more software to accommodate female surgical procedures?
I think it's part of a clue that Vickers is a robot. The life pod and med machine were for Weyland. Vickers the robot doesn't need one.
2) Old man Guy Pearce didn't know daughter Charlize was onboard until he woke up in the third act? Really?
He greatly favors David, and he was asleep, but yeah. Kind of weak.
3) Most of the crew had never met/didn't know what the mission was until they woke up? Really?
That is a terrible flaw. I think they were trying to make it seem like space travel was no big deal and they were like day laborers signing up for a gig.
3) The rooster-haired geologist and his buddy wanted to go back to the ship but lost their way and stayed inside the alien mountain and never made it back to the Prometheus without anyone knowing? Really? They were in contact with the ship the whole time because after the storm hit the captain told 'em to stay put til morning.
Yep, dumb.
4) The Captain was playing a fucking squeezebox? Used to belong to Stephen Stills? Really? And guess what? He and Charlize went off and fucked just so no one was watching the hologram to see what was going on in Alien Mountain!
That scene was also to show you that Vicker's was a robot. The only reason she slept with him was because he was getting suspicious.
5) What was the difference between the room with the huge head and upright "vases" and the "storage room" with thousands of more stacked vases?
The huge head room is the grow room for the goo. The stacked vases were in the ship ready for shipment to earth.
6) What exactly were the holograms of the engineers running around? Just an easy way for David to watch them and then figure out how fly the ship later?
Yes.
7) David knocked out Shaw on the medlab table after diagnosing her pregnancy but then left so two other people could come and move her to the cryo chamber (giving her the chance to knock them out and run to surgery pod? Really?
Yep, he isn't really evil, just cold. He liked Shaw, he thought the best thing was to put her back in cryo.
Shaw and her husband (boyfriend?) were so into finding these aliens but the moment they find them, she keeps investigating but he goes off and starts drinking?
I hate that guy.
9) It seemed like David's mission was the get things ready for Guy Pearce and his meeting with the engineers. So what was the point of infecting Shaw's husband?
Curiosity. David is curious and emotional even though he shouldn't be. Just like his "sister" Vickers is jealous. Both are robots that have emotions.
10) At the end, the big alien ship flew up into the sky, Prometheus rammed into it causing it to crash and fall -- and yet David's head stayed pretty much the exact same place in the jockey chamber after the crash when he started talking to Shaw?
It's a round room, hard to tell.
Quote from: Narco Pollo on June 18, 2012, 06:57:19 PM
I also think Charlize Theron (Vickers) was a Robot.
I disagree. I think she was an uptight woman, not a robot. Besides...she mentioned something to her father something about her being the queen and he being the king. She was refering to the fact that she would replace him when he dies. I just don't see a Robot having that much ambition.
2nd reason: She didn't want the infected dude to go on the ship. She used the flame thrower to burn him to death. If she was a robot, she would not care if the infected dude was in the ship or not because his disease would not affect her.
3rd. The old man/Guy Pierce person specifically stated that David was a robot and had no soul. He didn't say anything about Vickers though.
I saw it last night and I pretty much agree with most of the complaints I've read. That being said I was pretty much riveted the entire movie. I saw it in IMAX 3D and that shit is pretty fucking impressive. X2 when you are as high as I was for the movie. It's worth seeing in the theater and that format just for the visuals alone.
I also had done a bit of reading before hand so I didn't go in with super high expecations and I think that helped me enjoy it a bit more.
"Damn you're one ignorant shit on the internet. "
ha!
i pretty well enjoyed myself. but there was a lot wrong with it. a lot of stuff that could have been fixed with just a little more thinking.
old man guy pearce was a terrible idea. why do that? jesus.
i saw this last night. it was fucking disappointing.
why did that white dude drink that weird stuff and then fall into the waterfall?
why did david infect charlie?
is david trying to destroy the human race, or just the people on the ship?
why does charlie celebrate his discovery by getting hammered alone?
why is some of the ooze green and some black?
vickers mentioned that she had her own agenda for the expedition, but never says what that is. yes, her father wanted to meet his creator, but surely there was something she was going to get out of it.
why did the white dude want to kill humans?
what kind of alien was the abortion alien? the goo for it came from the ship, but it attacked the white guy from the same ship. why would they keep a creature around that kills them and spawns inside of them?
vickers' life raft crashed when it was ejected from prometheus. how was she going to get off of the planet in that?
why does david help shaw in the end if he's been trying to kill her all this time?
if you're going to write in a sex scene between charlize theron and stringer bell, why the fuck don't you show it???????
Quote from: gritty_fingers on June 19, 2012, 12:43:01 AM
Quote from: Narco Pollo on June 18, 2012, 06:57:19 PM
I also think Charlize Theron (Vickers) was a Robot.
I disagree. I think she was an uptight woman, not a robot. Besides...she mentioned something to her father something about her being the queen and he being the king. She was refering to the fact that she would replace him when he dies. I just don't see a Robot having that much ambition.
2nd reason: She didn't want the infected dude to go on the ship. She used the flame thrower to burn him to death. If she was a robot, she would not care if the infected dude was in the ship or not because his disease would not affect her.
3rd. The old man/Guy Pierce person specifically stated that David was a robot and had no soul. He didn't say anything about Vickers though.
and if she was a robot, she would've avoided getting rolled up on by a spaceship by running sideways instead of lengthwise
Quote from: priest on June 20, 2012, 07:29:27 PM
and if she was a robot, she would've avoided getting rolled up on by a spaceship by running sideways instead of lengthwise
You know...that whole sequence was pretty strange. How it was edited and shot kinda confused me. Its amazing to me how that ship landed on both women. I wish I can watch that clip again.
From Ridley Scott himself @ 4:15.
"Is there going to be a robot in this film?"
"There may be 2."
And this scene IMMEDIATELY follows the scene where David shows off his strength. She sure tosses him around easily for being a super human Robot. She doesn't just slam him. She hits him hard enough to lower his voice.
Robot sibling rivalry. The jealous bot vs. the curious bot.
Also, David calls her "mother."
The ship computer in the original Alien is named Mother. Vickers is in charge of the ship.
Plus they look and dress alike. Her performance is stiff and cold, and she's a good actress.
It may be a red herring though. You are supposed to at least question it, I believe. Even the crew does.
but why should the audience care about this mystery if she's dead/destroyed? sure, maybe she was a robot, but odds are she won't be in the next film (if there is one), so there's no pay off to discovering she's a robot.
It's part of the story though. I have a feeling that there will be a very extended DVD. There are all ready the viral videos of young Weyland and the David commercials. (which is part of the reason they gave him the old make-up, so they could go back in time.)
and the "leaked" images:
(http://thenexusnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Prometheus-2.jpg)
And the small detail of Weyland Corp being founded on 10-11-2012... I don't know what, but I suppose there will be some more teases coming out then, with a very expanded DVD.
Just like the original Space Jockey and Juggernaut from Alien, it wasn't explained or a big part of the story... just a mysterious corpse in the beginning and people talked about it for 30 years. Doesn't matter that she's dead. And if she's a Robot she may not be, and doesn't need food or air to survive.
why did that white dude drink that weird stuff and then fall into the waterfall?
a: he was seeding the earth with his dna to spawn humans.
why did david infect charlie?
a: because he was asked to by the old man. they were bringing a specimen back one way or another. the wayland corp has military ties.
is david trying to destroy the human race, or just the people on the ship?
a: neither.
why does charlie celebrate his discovery by getting hammered alone?
a: because the other two dudes who seemed like they would party were stuck in the pyramid. the one dude..the geologist. dude was doing bong hits out of his resperator.
why is some of the ooze green and some black?
a: irrelevant.
vickers mentioned that she had her own agenda for the expedition, but never says what that is. yes, her father wanted to meet his creator, but surely there was something she was going to get out of it.
a: military applications were to be understood going into this movie. it is assumed youve seen at least the first two alien movies prior to seeing this.
why did the white dude want to kill humans?
a: we dont know, thats why she left for their planet, not earth. they tell you that in the movie..its the one thing that is spelled out.
what kind of alien was the abortion alien? the goo for it came from the ship, but it attacked the white guy from the same ship. why would they keep a creature around that kills them and spawns inside of them?
a: again, military apps. you do remember the captain refering to weapons of mass destruction that got out.
vickers' life raft crashed when it was ejected from prometheus. how was she going to get off of the planet in that?
a: shes not. who said she had to.
why does david help shaw in the end if he's been trying to kill her all this time?
a: he was never trying to kill her. he was behind the wayland corps efforts in trying to smuggle an alien back to earth inside her. thats why he tried to put her back into the deep freeze.
if you're going to write in a sex scene between charlize theron and stringer bell, why the fuck don't you show it?
a: c.t. doesnt fuck black guys.
but it's idris elba!!
plus charlize theron is african. i'm sure she's had a couple black cocks in her.
at the same time, no doubt
applauded.
Quote from: Jor el on June 14, 2012, 04:23:04 PM
Different ship - same planet
I know I am late to this conversation so I am sure someone must have said this first but the planet in prometheus was not the same planet as the first Alien. Different numbers.
the plot thickens..
Same ship, Different day
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Different ship too. David said there are "many others." and he and Shaw fly away in one.
I saw it again last night in iMax 3d. Wanted to see it in all it's glory before it left.
I will say this. It becomes much easier to understand with repeat viewings. It really grows on you and a lot of the questions you have are answered, they just don't jump out at you the first time.
And also, I don't think Vickers is a robot anymore because after David says that Weyland wants him to "try harder" he looks at Vickers and says "Want some tea?" Indicating he would infect her with the goo, but he goes for Fratboy instead.
The film is still flawed, but it's way better than the backlash it's getting. It's just way different than what people expected.
I like the At the Mountains of Madness references, it makes the aliens like Cthulhu.
Fun Sci Fi, well executed visuals and average hollywood story. I recommend a second viewing either over the net or at a cheap theater.
Also, totally worth the 3d. I've seen so much crap where the 3d was useless. This was really used well. Especially the helmet/computer displays and star maps.
yeah, it's a fun ride with very good 3D. I saw the premiere midnight showing at the Metreon (SF's IMAX complex) and was wide awake (and baked) throughout. by contrast, I saw Will Carter at a 10pm showing when that came out and was snoozing at the 40-minute mark.
d.
is that the movie's grade, or like, all of the above?
I thought most of the human interaction was super lame. You fucking find the most amazing shit ever, then cry becasue you can't have a baby?
Why was Stringer Bell talking in a terrible accent?
The 2 dudes get stranded, are terrified of everything, but then one of them decides to get high? Didn't want to check out the life form found by the scanner thing, but then decide to play with a fucking dick snake?
And what happened to plastic eyeglasses guy?
Why was Charlize and Guy Pierce even in the movie? They could have been cut out entirely.
I think she was a robot.
Still, I enjoyed the movie and thought Rapace looked weird hot. Bolt, it looked like she was probably at her normal weight, not emaciated like in Girl. I did like her meaty thighs.
Quote from: The Shocker on June 27, 2012, 08:47:05 AM
Didn't want to check out the life form found by the scanner thing, but then decide to play with a fucking dick snake?
(http://www.apocprod.com/wp-content/gallery/article-pictures/043012-prometheus-international.jpg)
Yeah that Dick Snake/Vagina Snake/Whatever snake thing scene was really weird. I would of freaked out if I saw that thing and backed the fuck off..
It was a badly written scene......
yeah..those guys were scared of their own shadow and then they go and fuck with that thing..not logical
Quote from: gritty_fingers on June 28, 2012, 12:33:12 AM
Quote from: The Shocker on June 27, 2012, 08:47:05 AM
Didn't want to check out the life form found by the scanner thing, but then decide to play with a fucking dick snake?
(http://www.apocprod.com/wp-content/gallery/article-pictures/043012-prometheus-international.jpg)
Yeah that Dick Snake/Vagina Snake/Whatever snake thing scene was really weird. I would of freaked out if I saw that thing and backed the fuck off..
It was a badly written scene......
Affirmative.
(http://members.iinet.net.au/~jez/junk/Newt.jpg)
its a flawed movie but it does give some insight into the original alien, where the ship and engineer are shown and never explained..in any great detail. i just watched the original first time in over a decade..awesome movie for 1979.
yeah, i just watched alien the other day too. it made me more firm in my belief that prometheus fails as a film. or, as the film it was trying to be. in alien, when ash is revealed as a robot and ripley finds out that he wants the alien specimen for military weapon research, it made me wish prometheus had delved into that more. sure, we can assume that charlize theron's purpose for the trip is to find military weapons when she says she has her own agenda, but then why does she kill the anthropologist dude who is carrying the alien thingy she supposedly wants to bring back? why won't she let infected people in the ship if her goal is to bring back alien weaponry stuff? but then... if this is truly the first contact that humans have had with these aliens, how does she even know that there'll be military stuff there to exploit? WHAT WAS HER MOTIVATION FOR DOING ANYTHING IN THIS FILM?
and weylon... he seems to want to be there to meet his creator. fine. but then what orders is he giving david when he's in the sleep chamber? what does david have to "try harder" to do? make one of the space jockeys come to life? if that's the case, then why does david infect the anthropologists with a space vagina baby? does he have his own motivation separate from weyland's? and charlize theron's? someone else wants the alien specimen as a military tool? and we never see or hear from that person at all? just kinda assume it?
i saw prometheus with a friend who loved it. but... shouldn't a prequel answer some questions about the origins of alien? we don't get that many answers. just... oh hey, we ARE the space jockeys, they have human DNA. ok. fine. but then why does everything else in this movie happen?
... movie looked cool, though. i guess that's what matters.
It didn't even look that cool. I wonder how he even made Blade Runner.
I think he's expressed interest in doing a Blade Runner sequel as well.
I thought it looked great, especially in 3d. So far, Tron and Prometheus are the only 2 movies I've seen that justified the 3d. I didn't see Avatar in the theater.
Not as good as Blade Runner or Alien, but if you're being fair, still the best on the alien franchise since Aliens, and one of the better movies I've seen in years. Didn't live up to expectations, but things rarely do. I appreciate the effort.
Quote from: Narco Pollo on July 03, 2012, 02:55:10 PM
I thought it looked great, especially in 3d. So far, Tron and Prometheus are the only 2 movies I've seen that justified the 3d. I didn't see Avatar in the theater.
Not as good as Blade Runner or Alien, but if you're being fair, still the best on the alien franchise since Aliens, and one of the better movies I've seen in years. Didn't live up to expectations, but things rarely do. I appreciate the effort.
Same here. I saw Tron and Avatar in IMAX 3D and I though the 3D in Prometheus was done just was well as those two movies.
Quote from: strangelight on July 02, 2012, 09:29:01 AM
yeah, i just watched alien the other day too. it made me more firm in my belief that prometheus fails as a film. or, as the film it was trying to be. in alien, when ash is revealed as a robot and ripley finds out that he wants the alien specimen for military weapon research, it made me wish prometheus had delved into that more. sure, we can assume that charlize theron's purpose for the trip is to find military weapons when she says she has her own agenda, but then why does she kill the anthropologist dude who is carrying the alien thingy she supposedly wants to bring back? why won't she let infected people in the ship if her goal is to bring back alien weaponry stuff? but then... if this is truly the first contact that humans have had with these aliens, how does she even know that there'll be military stuff there to exploit? WHAT WAS HER MOTIVATION FOR DOING ANYTHING IN THIS FILM?
and weylon... he seems to want to be there to meet his creator. fine. but then what orders is he giving david when he's in the sleep chamber? what does david have to "try harder" to do? make one of the space jockeys come to life? if that's the case, then why does david infect the anthropologists with a space vagina baby? does he have his own motivation separate from weyland's? and charlize theron's? someone else wants the alien specimen as a military tool? and we never see or hear from that person at all? just kinda assume it?
i saw prometheus with a friend who loved it. but... shouldn't a prequel answer some questions about the origins of alien? we don't get that many answers. just... oh hey, we ARE the space jockeys, they have human DNA. ok. fine. but then why does everything else in this movie happen?
... movie looked cool, though. i guess that's what matters.
did you not see the space jockey give birth to the alien at the end of the movie? i watched the movie for the first time yesterday and the movie makes sense to me. and then you have to realize that they are making more parts to this story. so more will come out. charlize therion i would think wanted a weapon not an infection that would kill off humanity. i was under the assumption that she wanted a blow em up style weapon. not some gay biological shit. and then theres the if you let hin on the ship how do you know that its contained type of thing. i was not disappointed in the movie although i did almost fall alseep in the middle of it. you just have to realize that it is a movie and not a film.
All the way through I kept telling myself, "It's just a movie, it's just a movie."
Great movie. Very cheesy and campy in a fun way, reminiscent of Roger Corman's 1970's sci-fi/horror flicks like "Forbidden World" and "Planet Of Terror". Love those movies, and this was like experiencing a more modern one with a high budget.
Blu ray + HDTV = Beautiful
This movie is gorgeous.
Isn't it
I loved "Forbidden World." Big alien monster rip-off, naked tittays and one guy playing some kind of futuristic zither.
There are so many unanswered questions and so much vagueness because one of the writers was Damen Lindelof, a writer and producer for Lost.