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Title: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: sleestak on April 17, 2011, 10:20:42 PM
Probably the best album to never see the, official, light of day.

Amazing stuff IMO.... the single best post-Kyuss output.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: astroman on April 18, 2011, 03:00:21 AM
might agree with the first statement.

second statement is FALSE
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: The Shocker on April 18, 2011, 08:58:02 AM
I think some of the Raging Slab unreleased albums(!) are pretty damn good too.

Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: sleestak on April 18, 2011, 01:08:38 PM
I was referring to projects with members of the kyuss players.... guess I was a little vague.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: The Shocker on April 18, 2011, 05:26:34 PM
Well you did say best album not to see the light of day and Raging Slab does have 2 or 3...


It IS a great album though.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: astroman on April 19, 2011, 01:46:13 AM
Quote from: sleestak on April 18, 2011, 01:08:38 PM
I was referring to projects with members of the kyuss players.... guess I was a little vague.

understood, just don't agree. would have at one point but after several years of listening to it it hasn't held up quite as well as say Jalamanta for me. absolutely a sick album though. listened to it this afternoon
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: The Shocker on April 19, 2011, 08:18:30 AM
My vote would be for the first Queens of the Stoneage album.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: CanookieWookie on April 20, 2011, 08:09:05 PM
                ........Unida
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: sleestak on April 21, 2011, 10:27:30 AM
Quote from: deaner33 on April 19, 2011, 08:18:30 AM
My vote would be for the first Queens of the Stoneage album.

I go between the UNIDA unreleased album and QOTSA s/t.  Both are in my top ten STONER ROCK albums.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: peyotepeddler on April 24, 2011, 04:43:25 PM
Quote from: willb on April 20, 2011, 08:09:05 PM
                ........Unida


my favorite unida song:)


i'll raise you this little nugget to...................
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: CanookieWookie on April 24, 2011, 08:54:48 PM
Can't go wrong with either song there  :)
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: Sleazy Cortez on November 08, 2011, 05:52:17 PM
fuck yeah UNIDA!
i don't like that song Slaylina or whatever. But overall, fucking killer. Coping With the Urban Coyote is their most perfect release, though, of the three records. I think.

Jalamanta.
QOTSA.
Rated R.
Che - Sounds of Liberation
Keep Your Cool

lots of good ones!
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: Desertblues on November 10, 2011, 01:55:08 AM
Johns voice has been getting better and better but if I had to rate the post Kyuss releases I'd go for;

Brant Bjork - Jalamanta
Slo Burn - Amusing the Amazing/Demos
Qotsa - S/T
Che - Sounds of Liberation
Unida - Coping with the Urban Coyote
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: sleestak on November 10, 2011, 08:00:42 AM
Yeah, how's that for weird?  John's voice progressively gets better...
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: BaseApe on December 01, 2011, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: Desertblues on November 10, 2011, 01:55:08 AM
Johns voice has been getting better and better but if I had to rate the post Kyuss releases I'd go for;

Brant Bjork - Jalamanta
Slo Burn - Amusing the Amazing/Demos
Qotsa - S/T
Che - Sounds of Liberation
Unida - Coping with the Urban Coyote

Agree with all of these, but I'd have to add Brant Bjork and the Bros - Somera Sol.  Love that album.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: Mr Neutron on December 10, 2011, 07:58:41 PM
live brant is nifty, too
http://derochas.blogspot.com/search/label/Brant%20Bjork (http://derochas.blogspot.com/search/label/Brant%20Bjork)
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: Leto II on December 13, 2011, 08:23:38 AM
What is this release?  I've never heard of it.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: sleestak on December 14, 2011, 12:38:26 AM
Hey dude welcome to the board.  Where ya from? You must be new to the scene to have missed out on the unreleased unida album.

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Unida/275 (http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Unida/275).
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: Leto II on December 14, 2011, 07:29:22 AM
Thank you.  I'm from the desert.  I thought The Great Division was the unreleased album?  I thought I had that somewhere. I've heard it before.  I'm thoroughly confused now.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: GodShifter on December 14, 2011, 11:07:34 AM
Massachusetts is the desert ???
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: Leto II on December 15, 2011, 03:27:10 PM
atm for school only.  Of course no deserts, only 2 much cold.  Cant wait to 2b in AZ for Xmass
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: Metal and Beer on December 15, 2011, 11:19:50 PM
Dr. Watson, I observe a sudden and deliberate change in typing style...
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: astroman on December 15, 2011, 11:51:36 PM
Quote from: Leto II on December 14, 2011, 07:29:22 AM
Thank you.  I'm from the desert.  I thought The Great Division was the unreleased album?  I thought I had that somewhere. I've heard it before.  I'm thoroughly confused now.

this is the same as the Great Divide
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: sleestak on December 16, 2011, 06:50:56 AM
While on the topic, anyone have a lossless (silver cd copy) of the 15 track version of this.  I have a flac copy of the 11 track version but would like a high quality version of the additional tracks.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: GodShifter on December 16, 2011, 10:11:02 AM
Quote from: Metal and Beer on December 15, 2011, 11:19:50 PM
Dr. Watson, I observe a sudden and deliberate change in typing style...

omg, I gotta change it up bcause I know I ain't foolin' no 1.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: CanookieWookie on December 16, 2011, 02:28:47 PM
Quote from: sleestak on December 16, 2011, 06:50:56 AM
While on the topic, anyone have a lossless (silver cd copy) of the 15 track version of this.  I have a flac copy of the 11 track version but would like a high quality version of the additional tracks.

Did they actually release a 15 track version of this.  I to have the flac(s) from the 11 track version, however I was under the impression that that was the only release.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: Leto II on December 16, 2011, 03:40:32 PM
Downloaded it.  Guess it's okay?  But not as good as Seachin For the Urban Coyote, thank you all for the info
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: sleestak on December 18, 2011, 01:50:42 PM
Will I think they sold 15 (sometimes 16) track versions at shows.  (the 16th track was the cool song from the high times comp tacked on the end)
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: CanookieWookie on December 18, 2011, 03:23:18 PM
Quote from: sleestak on December 18, 2011, 01:50:42 PM
Will I think they sold 15 (sometimes 16) track versions at shows.  (the 16th track was the cool song from the high times comp tacked on the end)

Really?  Damn, I need to get myself a hold of one of those.  If I ever do, I'll certainly rip it in flac for you.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: sleestak on December 18, 2011, 09:08:58 PM
I'm no authority on the subject.  Read: I could be completely wrong.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: MadJohnShaft on December 19, 2011, 11:21:31 AM
I have the LP. Oh yeah.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: sleestak on December 21, 2011, 07:01:00 PM
DIGITAL VINYL
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: MadJohnShaft on December 22, 2011, 12:27:12 AM
Those boys need to work on their fade outs - jarring as is.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: CanookieWookie on December 24, 2011, 07:29:36 AM
That was the problem I had with the mp3 version (15 songs).  Some of the songs felt cut before they were ended.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: MikeyT on December 24, 2011, 11:52:04 AM
  ^

  Please translate this into English.  ;)  Or even Engrish.




Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: CanookieWookie on December 24, 2011, 02:28:51 PM
Quote from: MikeyT on December 24, 2011, 11:52:04 AM
  ^

  Please translate this into English.  ;)  Or even Engrish.






I tried.  :)
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: Baron on December 24, 2011, 04:29:01 PM
Quote from: sleestak on December 18, 2011, 01:50:42 PM
Will I think they sold 15 (sometimes 16) track versions at shows.  (the 16th track was the cool song from the high times comp tacked on the end)

Left Us To Mold, wicked track!
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: libertycaps on December 25, 2011, 11:40:08 PM
Had it. Now i don't. meh.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: MadJohnShaft on January 05, 2012, 06:29:37 PM
Quote from: MikeyT on December 24, 2011, 11:52:04 AM
  ^

  Please translate this into English.  ;)  Or even Engrish.



The leak we all got was not mastered, so the songs just stop abruptly, rather than fade out or whatever they were going to do in the studio with Rick Rubin.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: Mr Neutron on January 06, 2012, 06:23:55 PM
I like the album, it's just kinda jarring because of the big time production.
I prefer Coping, and the 1st Hermano to this.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: sleestak on January 12, 2012, 07:49:40 PM
Quote from: MadJohnShaft on January 05, 2012, 06:29:37 PM
Quote from: MikeyT on December 24, 2011, 11:52:04 AM
  ^

  Please translate this into English.  ;)  Or even Engrish.



The leak we all got was not mastered, so the songs just stop abruptly, rather than fade out or whatever they were going to do in the studio with Rick Rubin.


I'm pretty sure they were just fucked up mp3's because the 11 track lossless version doesn't do that on any tracks.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: astroman on January 14, 2012, 05:31:30 PM
yeah mine don't cut off weird at all

and libbycaps must have a google alert for "digital vinyl"
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: puddingpoejer on April 18, 2012, 03:39:38 AM
The 15 track edition was as far a I know an early MP3 only leak containing most of the songs on the 2 "official" CDr but less polished, with a couple of other tracktitles and with the addition of known songs like Thorn and Wet Pussycat

Then they sold (at least) 2 CDr editions at shows. One with 10 songs during the second European Hermano tour (Angry American tour) called El Coyote in 2004. And also a USA version with 11 songs.

At least one bootleg LP has been released (mad man's ruin records in 2007) with 10 tracks.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: MadJohnShaft on April 18, 2012, 07:53:35 AM
I'm voting for that to be the correct info.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: puddingpoejer on May 24, 2012, 08:39:54 AM
One (probably ;)) last addition:

The European version was sold in a white paper sleeve and had the bandname lasered on the CDr.

The American version came in a slimline jewel case. The cover showed the bandlogo with the four musician names. The back of the paper contained the tracklist.

The song Puppet Man is the same as Coffee Cong on the 15 track MP3 leak.

US Edition
Tracks: 11
Year: 2003
1. Puppet Man
2. Stray
3. Summer (US Exclusive)
4. King (US Exclusive)
5. Cain
6. Vince Fontaine
7. Hangman's Daughter
8. Glory Out
9. Slaylina
10. MFNO
11. Last Day

EU Edition
Tracks: 10
Year: 2003
1. Hangman's Daughter
2. Puppet Man
3. Cain
4. Stray
5. Slaylina
6. MFNO
7. Vine Fontaine
8. Trouble (EU Exclusive)
9. Glory Out
10. Last Day


Then, a couple of years ago, I came accross a CDr with 12 tracks which contained as an extra the Left Us To Mold track (high times comp) but I don't know if this was ever "officially" sold by the band.

The Mad Man's Ruin bootleg vinyl release came in a couple of different colors for the vinyl. I think the pressing quantity was 200 for each color. Not 100% sure about this though.

Bootleg (Europe)
Tracks: 10
Year: 2007
A1       Coffee Song       
A2       Stray       
A3       Summer       
A4       King       
A5       Cain       
B1       Vince Fontaine       
B2       Hangman's Daughter       
B3       Glory Out       
B4       Slaylina       
B5       Mfno
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: whoshotthefrog on September 11, 2012, 04:52:58 PM
I've been looking for something  I haven't heard in a long time. Reread this thread and decided this is what I'm going to listen to when I go smoke my after work joint.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: NAD on April 12, 2013, 12:56:08 AM
Fucking awesome album. Damn shame it wasn't released properly, but many of us get to love it, so that's plenty good enough. Got to see Unida live a few years ago in Hollywood, that was pretty god damn incredible.

I think the best non-Kyuss/post-Kyuss album is Amusing the Amazing, along with Jalamanta which I could listen to every day for the next 50 years and be plenty happy. I also have a particular soft spot for Songs for the Deaf, love it.

Hope nobody minds me bumping an old thread. I mean it is Unida so I figured that should be okay.  ;)
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: jedbangers on April 12, 2013, 05:19:46 AM
Quote from: sleestak on November 10, 2011, 08:00:42 AM
Yeah, how's that for weird?  John's voice progressively gets better...

I did an interview with John in 2011. He told me that he thinks his performance on the Kyuss albums are really poor. I agree with you, I think nowadays his voice is stronger than ever, but I really like what he did back in the day, specially in Sky Valley.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: sleestak on April 12, 2013, 09:48:06 AM
He was definitely buried in the mud of the Kyuss sound on their albums.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: jedbangers on April 12, 2013, 09:21:29 PM
Quote from: sleestak on April 12, 2013, 09:48:06 AM
He was definitely buried in the mud of the Kyuss sound on their albums.

Yeah, but wasnt that part of the whole Kyuss sound? I mean, I dont want a kyuss album with John sounding like Ian Astbury in The Cult.
Title: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: sleestak on April 13, 2013, 11:36:19 AM
Quote from: jedbangers on April 12, 2013, 09:21:29 PM
Quote from: sleestak on April 12, 2013, 09:48:06 AMHe was definitely buried in the mud of the Kyuss sound on their albums.

Yeah, but wasnt that part of the whole Kyuss sound? I mean, I dont want a kyuss album with John sounding like Ian Astbury in The Cult.

Oh, totally, I appreciate both but because he's not as good on the kyuss stuff I really appreciate the quality of the vocals on the later UNIDA stuff.  (Plus the Reeder bass is just incredible.)
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: markedman72 on May 19, 2013, 04:48:24 AM
Quote from: sleestak on April 17, 2011, 10:20:42 PM
Probably the best album to never see the, official, light of day.

Amazing stuff IMO.... the single best post-Kyuss output.
well said.

You know when George Drakoulias and Rick Rubin are producing something its going to be amazing.
Add one of the best rock guitarists around and John Garcias chords...well?? /thread.
Here is the best song imo
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: Lip on August 02, 2013, 06:11:49 PM
Quote from: The Shocker on April 19, 2011, 08:18:30 AM
My vote would be for the first Queens of the Stoneage album.

agreed. or even the Kyuss/QotsA split. Also love Che - diff vibe all together tho
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: MadJohnShaft on August 05, 2013, 09:28:03 PM
I'll have to listen to the Vista Chino now to compare.... I like his singing a lot. 
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: Dangling Fury on February 08, 2015, 02:56:14 PM
Saw them open up for Fu Manchu at the Galaxy club in Dallas after the first album just came out. Loved it. Unfortunately, Garcia was so drunk he couldn't stand up much less sing.


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Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: MadJohnShaft on February 09, 2015, 12:10:25 PM
Their performance at the first ShoD Arizona was stellar.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: lowdaddy on February 10, 2015, 11:40:13 PM
Never got to see them.  More's the pity.  Coping with the Urban Coyote is my favorite album from the Kyuss family of bands.  I like it better than anything Kyuss ever did (which isn't to say that I don't dig Kyuss, cuz I do), and I like it better than anything else any of the Kyuss guys went on to do.  Great, great album.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: MadJohnShaft on February 11, 2015, 08:34:46 AM
Let's not get crazy.  He was a young kid when he was in Kyuss.

Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: sleestak on February 17, 2015, 02:22:34 PM
I don't know MJS when I revist "Coping" I thing it's better than I remember and stands up even after many years passed.   

On to the Man's Ruin thread.
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Post by: kingofmars on February 17, 2015, 03:24:24 PM
Saw Unida several times. Always a great show. Vista Chino in 2013 was unbelievably great. I have tinnitus now cuz of it.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: MadJohnShaft on February 23, 2015, 09:06:17 PM


I would say John Garcia is my favorite singer. He's kind of sexy.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: sleestak on February 25, 2015, 08:47:26 AM
I disagree.


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Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: Sleazy Cortez on July 23, 2015, 11:08:50 AM
You don't think John Garcia is shaft's favorite singer?
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: sleestak on July 24, 2015, 03:23:49 PM
I would say he is not Shaft's favorite.
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: lowdaddy on July 26, 2015, 08:56:06 PM
Madonna?
Title: Re: Unida - For the Working Man/El Coyote
Post by: RacerX on July 27, 2015, 10:00:32 AM
Katy Perry.