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Title: Microtonal metal
Post by: mutantcolors on March 01, 2014, 10:23:11 AM
My fucking ears. And yet, I find it awesome.

http://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/vast-chains
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: Jake on March 01, 2014, 01:22:58 PM
That's interesting to me, but in relatively small doses. I imagine that if there are more bands doing that, then they would probably sound pretty similar.

My cat, on the other hand, wanted nothing to do with it whatsoever.
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: RacerX on March 01, 2014, 01:38:28 PM
Interesting. It clearly peeved most of my cats, too.
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 01, 2014, 02:30:00 PM
Interesting is the word.
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: fallen on March 01, 2014, 02:56:04 PM
I see some future metal style going the other way with sitar-like 9 string guitars in open tunings, half fretless with frets only at the 1, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11 & 12th positions. So anything you play is in some kind of phrygian mode of the harmonic minor scale.

The cool thing about sitars is that you can move the frets around to enable playing different scales. So maybe the sitarjent guitar has all the fret slots cut and some kind of set screw arrangement to let you reposition frets in whatever scale your band prefers.

The other cool thing about sitars is that it's easy to bend notes in the whole step gaps in the neck. On the sitarjent you have a bunch of fretless space between 1 - 4 and 8 - 11 to slide chords and get into microtones etc.

Am I going to go pull a bunch of frets out of one of my guitars? No. :)
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: jibberish on March 02, 2014, 07:36:26 AM
there are a few semi-tonal keyboards out there, like by casio and Yamaha

here is a PSR-A2000 synth expansion sound pack demo. of course by a stellar demonstrator as per usual Yamaha style.
real hard not to want one of these. wow, the possibilities....

Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: agent of change on March 02, 2014, 03:09:31 PM
That is quite a song title.

I wish he would growl microtonally.  :D  So many times I hear interesting heavy music that is ruined by plodding cookie monster vocals. The screeches were a bit more interesting but still just the same basic "note."

Cool music though. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: MichaelZodiac on March 02, 2014, 03:17:57 PM
Small doses indeed.
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: sludgelord3000 on March 03, 2014, 07:29:00 PM
I likes it.
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: Jake on March 04, 2014, 09:29:13 AM
Wait. Wait.


Is that THE sludgelord posting?






Wait.
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: jibberish on March 05, 2014, 04:21:56 AM
if you want more sl3k posting, just link a video of a mellow jazz sax player who was playing too loud and knew it and was focusing on not losing his reed at the "reed gate" threshold and ended up compromising his performance being timid resulting in a snoozefest performance. at that point I will comment. the ball will commence rolling.

ok, now if plan A doesn't work, this is guaranteed lightning in a can right here:

"tip for you sl3k: listen to more jazz, and btw, learn to play a reed before you talk about a reed player that is having issues"


whew, that's a double-barreled hot one I just cooked up there. careful with it. heh
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: eoin_not_ian on March 06, 2014, 03:06:18 PM
I love the keyboard demo. Blew my mind.
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: themusketking on March 09, 2014, 12:09:25 PM
it's...well...interesting-ish.
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: mutantcolors on March 10, 2014, 11:42:40 AM
I still wonder if it's a special instrument, or just tuned like intentional garbage. I saw a solo performance by a guy from Spokane that was based on microtones, and all his equipment was home invented/built.
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: eoin_not_ian on March 11, 2014, 04:22:03 PM
Much like the Schoenberg's 12 tone serialism stuff, my brain is intrigued by the concept and my ears struggle with the execution of the concept.  Still, interesting and kinda cool in small doses.
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: Discö Rice on April 13, 2014, 10:11:54 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on March 01, 2014, 10:23:11 AM
My fucking ears. And yet, I find it awesome.

http://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/vast-chains
Pretty good until the vocals kicked in (He doesn't sound scary - he sounds like someone trying to sound like someone he heard that sounded scary once. He also somehow sounds like he's smiling.). Also the drum machine is a bummer. I dig the riffage though.
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: Lumpy on April 13, 2014, 10:26:48 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on March 10, 2014, 11:42:40 AM
I still wonder if it's a special instrument, or just tuned like intentional garbage. I saw a solo performance by a guy from Spokane that was based on microtones, and all his equipment was home invented/built.

I like the idea of purposely out-of-tune metal, but this guy has a microtonal guitar. Link says:

QuoteJute Gyte uses guitars retro­fitted to play 24-tone equal-tempered scales—meaning he's got twice as many notes in an octave as an ordinary guitarist.

So he has twice as many frets. Do a Google Image search on microtonal guitars, there are some freaky ones with squiggly frets, extra frets in some positions (but not others) and more normal ones with standard frets near the nut, but extra frets up high.

I just listened to the tracks for the first time now, it's cool!
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: mortlock on April 13, 2014, 11:49:10 PM
I like playing fretless basses for this reason. it gives you level playing fields with instruments that aren't bound by frets..
Title: Re: Microtonal metal
Post by: jibberish on April 14, 2014, 06:14:09 AM
so is the logical conclusion to this thread that we ALL score a used cello offa craigslist???

i'm all in if alla y'all are too

edit: I was thinking about back in school, symphonic band, where they let all those true geeks you never really saw that were taking violin lessons play.   we were in all the bands(brass).  young violin students , when trying to play as a "section", they were singing:

"We are the gods of micro tone" "we are the gods of micro tone"

band director was singing:

"they are the gods of micro tone"

we were squirting slide oil on the hawt French horny chicks in the row in front of us while he was sorting out the violins AGAIN