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Title: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: everdrone on July 28, 2014, 03:39:23 PM
In one session I play guitars and basses tuned to C# standard, E standard, and D# standard.  I have a polytune which is horrible and needs to be replaced.  Which tuner should I get?  I am thinking the Boss Tu-3 since it is a tried and true design, but am considering the Turbo Tuner.

Turbo Tuner:

https://www.turbo-tuner.com/pages/manual-st2.htm

Boss TU-3:

http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=1046
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: Jake on July 28, 2014, 03:43:29 PM
S'matter with the Polytune?
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: everdrone on July 28, 2014, 03:48:56 PM
the polytune is way too hyped in my opinion:

1) the polytune function does not work at all for me.  completely innacurate no matter what tuning.  Settings for it do not allow for C# standard tuning.  total junk.  I wonder what the gibson robot tuning is like and if it mirrors this.

2) the polytune function comes on when I am trying to single tune and does not go away and keeps popping up which is very annoying

3) in single tuning mode, strings are played but do not even register, so I have to tune by ear etc.

Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: Jake on July 28, 2014, 07:58:58 PM
Well that's certainly no bueno. I've had a diff't experience since I got mine last month. Single note function works as it should. I don't even mess with the multi-string, as I don't tune to anything near a standard.

Only got it because my Korg DT-10 was taking up too much room on my (teeny tiny) pedal board. I had the Korg for many, many years and was quite happy with it. That thing even worked all the way down to a drop G, Bongripper style tuning.

Hail Satan.
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: spookstrickland on July 28, 2014, 08:32:09 PM
Korg's are the way to go, then can go to 432hz too, a lot of tuners will not.
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: Lumpy on July 28, 2014, 09:23:45 PM
I see the Boss TU-3 has been updated to be more accurate (+/- 1 cent) -- in the past it was +/- 3 cents, kind of crappy.
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: RAGER on July 28, 2014, 09:39:12 PM
Not very punk rock, this thread.
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: everdrone on July 28, 2014, 10:32:16 PM
well, accuracy is important when downtuning

musicians like to be in tune, even punk rockers!  maybe not if they are noiscore though  ???
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 28, 2014, 10:54:15 PM
I've walked out on bands because they/someone were/was so out of tune. I just can't deal with it. TUNE. After every other song if you have to.

I use a Peterson Strobostomp 2. I like it. No idea if it can do chords, wouldn't even try if it could.
Title: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: Danny G on July 29, 2014, 10:14:19 AM
Still rocking the Boss TU-2

Haven't messed with it enough to see about re-calibrating for 432, but using a diff tuner then seeing where it is on the Boss, 432 is the second to last dot on the left. Right by the screw. So I put silver sharpie on the screw head to mark it. #punk
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: RacerX on July 29, 2014, 11:21:13 AM
In the studio, usually the Peterson strobe. Conn strobes are okay, too.

On the pedalboard, I still use an old TU-2, but if it broke or got stolen, I'd probably go with the Korg Pitchblack.

Playing alone, a Snark clip-on for general reference > my ears for the fine-tuning.
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: MichaelZodiac on July 29, 2014, 02:17:59 PM
I have a Korg Pitchblack that handles my standard C tuning for bass just fine.
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: spookstrickland on July 29, 2014, 03:25:24 PM
Quote from: Danny G on July 29, 2014, 10:14:19 AM
Still rocking the Boss TU-2

Haven't messed with it enough to see about re-calibrating for 432, but using a diff tuner then seeing where it is on the Boss, 432 is the second to last dot on the left. Right by the screw. So I put silver sharpie on the screw head to mark it. #punk

Heck ya that is totally Punk Rock!
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: Danny G on July 29, 2014, 07:45:38 PM
Totally.

And I take the TU-2 from my bass pedalboard and use it as a poor man's ABY box to split signal for the Loop pedal for Ocean of Stars.

Punk is not dead! It's just older, grayer, and goes to bed at a much more reasonable hour...
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: spookstrickland on July 30, 2014, 12:23:22 AM
Quote from: Danny G on July 29, 2014, 07:45:38 PM

Punk is not dead! It's just older, grayer, and goes to bed at a much more reasonable hour...


that's totally Sig worthy!
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: Pissy on July 30, 2014, 06:29:28 PM
Quote from: Danny G on July 29, 2014, 07:45:38 PM
Totally.

And I take the TU-2 from my bass pedalboard and use it as a poor man's ABY box to split signal for the Loop pedal for Ocean of Stars.

Punk is not dead! It's just older, grayer, and goes to bed at a much more reasonable hour...

TU-2 as a splitter is the only way to go. 
Title: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: Danny G on July 31, 2014, 11:29:55 AM
I learned that trick from Dug Pinnick when I was teching for Kings X


And I didn't come up with the quote. It's from a meme with a modern-day pic of Henry Rollins and Ian MacKaye, heh
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: RAGER on July 31, 2014, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: Pissy on July 30, 2014, 06:29:28 PM
Quote from: Danny G on July 29, 2014, 07:45:38 PM
Totally.

And I take the TU-2 from my bass pedalboard and use it as a poor man's ABY box to split signal for the Loop pedal for Ocean of Stars.

Punk is not dead! It's just older, grayer, and goes to bed at a much more reasonable hour...

TU-2 as a splitter is the only way to go. 

Really?  Over something like a Radial aby?
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: Danny G on July 31, 2014, 01:08:40 PM
Yup. Because I can't afford to buy one and I only need an ABY for one project.

Whereas I already have two TU-2's

At the end of of the day if I do need an ABY, I'll just build one.
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: RAGER on July 31, 2014, 01:24:51 PM
If you build one look into a design with an iso transformer and ground lift/phase.
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: everdrone on July 31, 2014, 01:34:48 PM
ya that radial bigshot aby seems cool at $90 built in controls for phase balancing two amps   http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BigShotABY?device=c&network=g&matchtype=&gclid=CLfA4uiJ8L8CFSgV7AodmQ4AgQ   
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: RAGER on July 31, 2014, 01:42:05 PM
That's the one I have.  I got it for $40 used.  Why bother building one?
Title: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: Danny G on July 31, 2014, 01:50:32 PM
Damn. That is cheap.

I do have two tiny transformers already on a board with some other parts as I was in the process of beginning an ABY build for a friend which fell thru.

#halfwaythere
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: RAGER on July 31, 2014, 02:03:03 PM
Well shit, half the work is sourcing the parts.  If you already have the parts then go ahead.  then you could paint it up like a booty que pedal.

You should do a negative print of your likeness like mutant and stamp er'thing with it.  Stencil your cabs, etc.
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: Danny G on July 31, 2014, 02:23:11 PM
I should use the selfie of myself wearing glasses and holding my Waffle House mug...

Because StonerRock
Title: Re: Best Tuner? for various tunings on Guitar and Bass. Boss TU3? Turbo Tuner?
Post by: Pissy on July 31, 2014, 09:59:20 PM
Quote from: RAGER on July 31, 2014, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: Pissy on July 30, 2014, 06:29:28 PM
Quote from: Danny G on July 29, 2014, 07:45:38 PM
Totally.

And I take the TU-2 from my bass pedalboard and use it as a poor man's ABY box to split signal for the Loop pedal for Ocean of Stars.

Punk is not dead! It's just older, grayer, and goes to bed at a much more reasonable hour...

TU-2 as a splitter is the only way to go.  

Really?  Over something like a Radial aby?
I think so because if you are going to split, and run a tuner anyways, its one less pedal. I always ran the second line through a volume pedal to a smaller wattage amp kinda cranked, and I would roll on the dirt as needed.

Now I can't deny that often a ground lift woulda been nice to get rid if the hum, but not always necessary. Seemed like the clubs with the most shoddy power offering I didn't have a problem with that, and the places that had it done "right" was where I did.

Also, with the TU2, one line is active always, so when tuning, it's coming through your secondary amp. As I said, I ran a Vol pedal so no biggie, but its worth mentioning.  You can turn both lines off on one of them ABYs, right?

Honestly, I just think that pedal was really well thought out is all I'm saying.  It's not an effects pedal, but it does so much.