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Title: Home Recording thread
Post by: black aspirin on December 20, 2015, 09:25:13 PM
I don't see much posted here about home recording.  I recently got back into playing, writing and recording music.

Does anyone wanna discuss techniques, their home studio setup, DAWs, plug-ins, EQ, mixing, etc?  I have more fun recording and mixing than I do playing.  Part science, part art, part happy accidents.

Just picked up Voxengo Elephant, a mastering limiter to help with the final product, and it's pretty awesome.  The latest mix I'm working on is the best-sounding recording I've ever done.

Come at me, bro?
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: everdrone on December 20, 2015, 09:47:16 PM
I use reaper to mix, and 22vsl presonus as an interface, and I use Toontrack Superior 2.3 for drums and a Shure SM7B for vox

its fun stuff!  I never read a manual or took the time to learn, so I just use presets and tweak em.  for "mastering" I use Ozone 5.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: black aspirin on December 20, 2015, 10:22:42 PM
I'm using an iMac with Mackie Trackton 4 (thinking about moving up to Logic Pro X) and a Steinberg UR242 interface.  I use BFD Drum software for the MIDI-programmed drum sounds (it's amazing, all real kits recorded in a studio), and Absynth 4 for the synth sounds.  I record bass with a Sansamp direct, split between clean and distorted, and sometimes an extra mic'd track (which I separate as lows/mids/highs, and mix them until I get the combination I want).  Guitars are mic'd, all with a Shure SM57. 

I try to read a lot about techniques and theory, but it is so fun because there aren't that many hard rules.  Weird ideas might pay off huge.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: lordfinesse on December 20, 2015, 10:27:05 PM
I'd say if the latest mix you've done is the best sounding, you're doing it right. I'd be interested to hear if you'd like to post a clip when you get it finished. Since our last album in 2013 I haven't been recording much other than demos and stuff with my kids. My room sucks bad for mixing... software says it's impossible to treat enough to bring it up being "correct".. it's tiny, kind of L shaped, and multi-leveled.. so I ended up mixing our last album in my Honda Element.

I've been using the same setup for around 10 years...  Reaper on my laptop, and an old version of Cubase on an old Windows XP desktop, with 2 Aardvark DirectPro Q10 interfaces. The ol' "if it ain't broke don't fix it" thing I guess. I'm sure newer stuff is awesome but I don't really have the need or time to get into it at the moment. One day I'm sure I will. Maybe before our next album.

I think my approach might draw some groans over on one of the home recording forums. I do enjoy talking about this stuff though, or at least I used to. I guess I still do. So thanks for starting this thread.
Title: Home Recording thread
Post by: Danny G on December 21, 2015, 01:26:05 AM
I'm still using my Tascam digital 8-track.

Bad news is it's pretty outdated and limiting. Good news is I've been using it for 10 years and have gotten quite good at working around its limitations.

Like how to mic a full drum set with only two track inputs and make it not sound like I only have two inputs to work with.


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Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: jibberish on December 21, 2015, 01:40:52 AM
Quote from: Danny G on December 21, 2015, 01:26:05 AM
I'm still using my Tascam digital 8-track.

Bad news is it's pretty outdated and limiting. Good news is I've been using it for 10 years and have gotten quite good at working around its limitations.

Like how to mic a full drum set with only two track inputs and make it not sound like I only have two inputs to work with.


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that right there is why I specifically bought a Tascam 24track a few years back: it can record 8 tracks simultaneously and easily can do a fully mic'd drum kit.
my son was doing it with a stereo pc interface too, so I took care of his issue of being limited to 2 mics only.  he lost the fcking power supply..dammit heh

it's ok, I just use a pc power supply now anyway for everything at once and I made a special power cable that goes from Tascam to pc supply.

also, being portable 12v makes field recording cool.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: giantchris on December 21, 2015, 05:45:21 AM
I do all of my stuff DI'd and program drums with my solo stuff.  Using the Ignite amps/IRCabs/PodFarm 2.5 for guitars and occasionally a T21 Oxford or Leeds with some sort of distortion pedal.  I really like the PodFarm effects you can do some awesome delay/modulation stuff on there.  For mixing and mastering I usually use my Tonebooster's plugins or I have some of the Stillwell Plugins that work great. 

For drums I use EZDrummer 2 Metalheads expansion, use the big room setting and tweak the cymbals up higher and the reverb up a touch then I bounce the kick/snare/toms to a bus track and compress the shit out of that.  It works pretty good I just started using bus compression on drums halfway through recording my last solo effort and you can hear the difference on the tracks that used it. 

For keys I use EZKeys Classic Electrics, Mellotoon, Retro Electrics, and the Schwa Olga synth which is really awesome.  The EZKeys stuff is highly underrated once you stack some FX on it it can get pretty crazy sounding. 

My next goal is I want to try to get the EZKeys Pipe Organ and I'd like to get a Line 6 Helix I've been very impressed with the clips of the Helix I've heard.
Title: Home Recording thread
Post by: Danny G on December 21, 2015, 10:41:56 AM
8 tracks simultaneously... I don't even own that many mics, and most of the mic stands would consist of things that aren't mic stands + duct tape ;P


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Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: SensoryOverload on December 21, 2015, 01:33:46 PM
Great thread idea. The vast majority of people who record at home have some pretty ghetto-ass set-ups I've found haha. I used to love reading threads like this before purchasing gear because it gave me hope for what was possible despite limited equipment and funds.

My home-recording set-up is very simple:

1 x Shure SM57 Microphone ($99) > Steinberg CI1 USB Audio Interface ($99) > Sequel LE 2 Audio editing/recording program (Free with the interface)


Guitar/Bass: Microphone pretty much directly in center of amp speaker
Drums: Usually hanging 2 ft infront of the kit closer to the bass drum (I only 1-mic drums due to funds)
Vocals: Varies, I get my singer to sing quiet parts close and then step back for the loud parts or words that start with the letter P.
I've noticed it makes a "PUH" sound which spikes the volume and causes clipping so we gotta work around that alot haha

Here's an example of one of the songs by my band project where everything was done 1 microphone, 1 at a time, then mashed together.


Also my band soundcloud page is full of similar set-ups and recordings. I feel like as far as demo's go, you only need primitive gear like this. But once you're doing something serious for an album, get your ass in the studio haha
https://soundcloud.com/SensoryOL
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: Corey Y on December 21, 2015, 02:24:18 PM
I use a Focusrite Clarett 8Pre interface (Thundbolt based) into an iMac for recording, using Logic X. Shure SM7B for guitar, EV RE20 for bass, with my little home rigs:

(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z3/coreyyoung86/IMG_20151210_154204_zpsazep3mgy.jpg)

Traynor DH15H > Eminence Swamp Thang 12" for guitar, GK MB800 > Eminence Basslite 10" for bass.

I have a couple LDC mics I use for vocal recording (ADK Vienna and AT4047), but I haven't done any vocals on anything that's just for me in a long while.


Here's a clip of that rig in action:

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/corey-y/current-demo-recording-rig-december-2015[/soundcloud]


Previously I was using a Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 for an interface and my Carvin X100B head into a Celestion G12-80 loaded 2x12 for all my guitar tracks. It took up a lot of space though, just recently pulled the trigger on the smaller guitar stuff and took a while to find the right speaker for the tones I like. The Thunderbolt based interface was worth the upgrade, virtually no latency and the stock preamps on everything Focusrite I've owned sound good. I used to use boutique outboard preamps for years, before I went all in the box and I honestly don't miss them. I just go for color with mics and plug-ins now, which gives me more flexibility in the mix anyway.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: black aspirin on December 21, 2015, 03:27:38 PM
Good Lord, Corey Y...that sounds amazing. 
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: Danny G on December 21, 2015, 04:01:09 PM
Here's my handiwork, guerrilla recorded at several different locations using the primitive techniques I've been perfecting since doing the RPM challenge every year since 2009. This is my full band. Had it professionally mastered by a master of mastering which helped quite a bit

http://oceanofstars.bandcamp.com


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Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: Corey Y on December 21, 2015, 04:22:50 PM
Quote from: black aspirin on December 21, 2015, 03:27:38 PM
Good Lord, Corey Y...that sounds amazing. 

Thanks man   ;D
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: black aspirin on December 21, 2015, 06:20:53 PM
Quote from: Danny G on December 21, 2015, 04:01:09 PM
Here's my handiwork, guerrilla recorded at several different locations using the primitive techniques I've been perfecting since doing the RPM challenge every year since 2009. This is my full band. Had it professionally mastered by a master of mastering which helped quite a bit

http://oceanofstars.bandcamp.com


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Damn, Danny!  I dig that record, and had no idea you had done all the recording...nice work!
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: black aspirin on December 21, 2015, 06:26:03 PM
Here's part of the track I'm working on, it's supposed to be the soundtrack for my flatland BMX edit that I'm putting out in February, when I turn 45.  There's an intro and some other parts coming, but I'm still working on it.  There's one synth swirling in the background, and all of the other stuff is bass and guitar.  Any constructive criticism or feedback is welcome.  I can't do vocals, so I try to fill in the space with synths, guitar psych stuff, and sometimes voice samples...


[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/black-aspirin-1/fourpointfive[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: zachoff on December 21, 2015, 06:47:30 PM
I have an old ass Line6 TonePort UX1 and Reaper.  It does the job for personal stuff, but isnt' great.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on December 21, 2015, 07:27:21 PM
for rough songwriting, just ableton, beta monkey drum samples, and amplitube for my guitar.

for the real stuff, alotta other gear!
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: chille01 on December 21, 2015, 08:01:37 PM
I've got some pretty decent recording gear - not cork sniffer fancy, but probably more than the average home studio.  Decent mic selection with most of the bases covered (drum mics, small and large diagram condensers, 57's, RE20, Apex tube mic, CAD ribbon mic etc. etc.).  I use a Macbook Pro, Logic X, with a Focusrite interface and an old Frontier Audio Tango slaved to it via SPDIF.  All of that is interfaced with an old Mackie 24x8 bus board, and your standard KRK Rocket monitors.  A couple of DBX, Ashley, and ART outboard compressors, and a pretty decent selection of plugin fx in Logic.  I patched it all together on Craigslist for the most part, over several years.  The mix room itself is terrible, but I built some homemade bass traps to try and help there.

Up until a year or so ago I usually recorded my own band, so it was all live instruments.  Now I'm not in a band, so I've been tinkering with programming drums, keys... looking for a good brass section VST at the moment.  The MIDI, virtual instrument stuff is fun, but its a whole new ball game for me, and I don't know jack about it yet.  I know I'm just scratching the surface there, and what I'm doing is pretty rudimentary.

This was the last album the old band put out, and also probably the best results I've ever managed to personally get at recording.  We tracked pretty much everything in our jam room using the above mentioned gear, mixed it in my old living room, and then had my buddy who is a *real* recording engineer master it. 

https://thebelushis.bandcamp.com/releases (https://thebelushis.bandcamp.com/releases)
Title: Home Recording thread
Post by: Danny G on December 21, 2015, 09:22:44 PM
Quote from: black aspirin on December 21, 2015, 06:20:53 PM
Quote from: Danny G on December 21, 2015, 04:01:09 PMHere's my handiwork, guerrilla recorded at several different locations using the primitive techniques I've been perfecting since doing the RPM challenge every year since 2009. This is my full band. Had it professionally mastered by a master of mastering which helped quite a bit

http://oceanofstars.bandcamp.com


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Damn, Danny!  I dig that record, and had no idea you had done all the recording...nice work!

Thanks man. I should just do all of our recording like this and save myself a fortune (but pay to have it mastered)

And we'd spend a little more time on it. This was recorded literally on the fly a month after our first two gigs last year


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Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: black aspirin on December 24, 2015, 07:35:56 PM
Downloading Logic Pro X right now (and it's taking a while).  Pretty excited about moving up to this DAW though, all of the reviews I've seen are terrific.  The first thing I'm gonna do is start trying to move all of the tracks from the new song I'm working on from Tracktion 4 to Logic Pro X...and start by loading the BFD2 midi to multiple outputs so I can tweak each piece of the kit.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: jibberish on December 26, 2015, 03:21:28 AM
Quote from: Danny G on December 21, 2015, 10:41:56 AM
8 tracks simultaneously... I don't even own that many mics, and most of the mic stands would consist of things that aren't mic stands + duct tape ;P


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a) I don't own 8 mics either
b) my son and his buddies were doing it while trying to seriously record some songs and they really needed 4 mics
c) my old trusty warhorse VS-880 harddisk recorder was getting sketchy and the idea of a solid state multitrack was VERY appealing
d) B&H was blowing them out for like $400 and change, so yeah all the stars aligned correctly for me to get that at that time. 
e) 99.9% of my recording goes through the mackie mixer->focusrite scarlett 2i4 stereo interface->reaper

I have ableton lite that came with the focusrite and it seems cool. but I haven't needed to lose reaper yet, so I haven't really explored it fully
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: black aspirin on December 27, 2015, 01:46:45 PM
Really loving Logic Pro X, the learning curve hasn't been too bad after switching from Tracktion 4.  There are so many plug-ins, EQ presets to work with (and simplify things), and I haven't even fucked with the drum program, the synth program, or the guitar and bass simulators (I tend to avoid simulators, but I'll have to try them out).

Also, 64-bit.  NICE.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: Lumpy on December 27, 2015, 08:54:39 PM
Quote from: black aspirin on December 21, 2015, 06:26:03 PM
Here's part of the track I'm working on, it's supposed to be the soundtrack for my flatland BMX edit that I'm putting out in February, when I turn 45.  There's an intro and some other parts coming, but I'm still working on it.  There's one synth swirling in the background, and all of the other stuff is bass and guitar.  Any constructive criticism or feedback is welcome.  I can't do vocals, so I try to fill in the space with synths, guitar psych stuff, and sometimes voice samples...


[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/black-aspirin-1/fourpointfive[/soundcloud]

Sounds good (I have tin ears though). You have a slight Chrome vibe happening (a good thing). Not sure what you mean by "can't" do vocals, but if you're using it as background music for your BMX video, vocals might be distracting anyway. You could add some minimal vocals that are processed heavily (distortion, delays) and keep them low in the mix?
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: black aspirin on December 28, 2015, 11:23:04 AM
Thanks, Lumpy.  Yeah, the only way I could get by with vocals would be to figure out some heavily processed style (a la Ufomammut), but for now I wanna concentrate on getting better at recording the instruments, programming, EQ and all that.  That mix was done in Tracktion, but I'm re-doing the song in Logic Pro X.  I'll post it up when I'm done.

My riding style is kind of the slow-but-smooth thing, so this track is kind of intentionally laid-back and slow to fit the video.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: eyeprod on January 01, 2016, 01:47:39 PM
Quote from: black aspirin on December 21, 2015, 06:26:03 PM
Here's part of the track I'm working on, it's supposed to be the soundtrack for my flatland BMX edit that I'm putting out in February, when I turn 45.  There's an intro and some other parts coming, but I'm still working on it.  There's one synth swirling in the background, and all of the other stuff is bass and guitar.  Any constructive criticism or feedback is welcome.  I can't do vocals, so I try to fill in the space with synths, guitar psych stuff, and sometimes voice samples...


[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/black-aspirin-1/fourpointfive[/soundcloud]

Sounds cool. Maybe bring the guitars up a little. Percussive sounds are a little loud in headphones.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: nyarlathotep on January 07, 2016, 04:58:45 PM
Currently working on converting my basement into a recording studio... the primary focus is just a rehearsal space but since I already have all the electronics I figure it's not much more work. Having trouble getting a solid soundproofing solution... the guy who owned my house before me was an electrician and decided to put junction boxes everywhere with vents and piping criss-crossing under the joists... on a 7" ceiling. I suppose as long as the sound doesn't get outside the house it will suffice.

Any good DIY baffles/acoustic panels tutorials out there? Preferably ones that focus on materials easy to get off-the-shelf?
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: black aspirin on January 07, 2016, 06:17:22 PM
Been re-working that track in Logic Pro X, and I think the sound has improved a lot now that I'm learning more.  See what you think.  First version is the track in Tracktion 3.

Second track is in Logic Pro X, and I re-recorded the bass.  For some reason, the swirling synth doesn't play in Logic Pro X when you bounce part of the tract, it has to start from the beginning for the synth to play (Corey Y, do you know why this is?).

Lemme know if you think the new version sounds better, I'm very happy with the improvement in sound quality.

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/black-aspirin-1/fourpointfive[/soundcloud]
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/black-aspirin-1/fourpointfive-soundcloud-test[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: Corey Y on January 07, 2016, 06:50:47 PM
Quote from: black aspirin on January 07, 2016, 06:17:22 PM
Been re-working that track in Logic Pro X, and I think the sound has improved a lot now that I'm learning more.  See what you think.  First version is the track in Tracktion 3.

Second track is in Logic Pro X, and I re-recorded the bass.  For some reason, the swirling synth doesn't play in Logic Pro X when you bounce part of the tract, it has to start from the beginning for the synth to play (Corey Y, do you know why this is?).

Lemme know if you think the new version sounds better, I'm very happy with the improvement in sound quality.

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/black-aspirin-1/fourpointfive[/soundcloud]
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/black-aspirin-1/fourpointfive-soundcloud-test[/soundcloud]

I don't mess with synth stuff too much in Logic, but sometimes the synth presets have a bunch of effects and there are settings for bouncing with and without plugins/effects, so it could be tricky. Plus, I've noticed that some delay, reverb and modulation stuff, if you don't start it running at the same points they don't kick in right when switching between soloing tracks and stuff like that. If all else fails you can always bounce in real time and monitor what's working or not. Typically I only do live tracked stuff and a little bit of midi sequenced drum samples, so there's a lot of ins and outs of the instrument/effects stuff I almost never use.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: nyarlathotep on March 02, 2016, 12:08:26 PM
Home studio progress continues...starting to plan out the technology side of things now. I've already got a basic rack and tons of mic cables, but my goal with the new space is to avoid everything getting tangled into a huge fucking mess within two days. Looking into getting some snakes (Monoprice sells really cheap ones) and maybe a patch bay to try and keep things as clean and modular as possible.

I think my 'control room' is going to be pretty unorthodox -- I don't have room in the basement to set one up and I'm not really looking to spend money wiring up a complicated snake setup to route it upstairs.

Instead, there's a Reaper plugin called ReaStream that will let me stream the audio from one Reaper to another - so, basement Reaper (laptop) will stream audio to upstairs Reaper (desktop pc), which will be the "control room". Basically no documentation for this but it actually works pretty well. Considered setting up a upstairs->downstairs stream for talkback but I think walkie-talkies might be easier...

I also bought a $5 app for my long-unused Android tablet called TouchDAW, which functions as a remote control surface for Reaper. Took a few minutes to setup but also pretty easy to use. The interface would be hell to try and use as a 'real' control surface, but it will work great for starting and stopping playback/recording and soloing/muting tracks, so I'm aiming to mainly use it when trying to record drums solo or practice to a click. In combination with my 'control room' it would give me limited control over recording too.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: Danny G on March 03, 2016, 07:03:34 PM
Scored an iMac from a good friend.

Have Garage Band but haven't really messed with it yet (have past experience). Still need a USB interface but may have to wait til end of the month.

In the meantime I will import tracks from my 8 track and practice mixing it


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Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: jibberish on March 04, 2016, 05:26:46 AM
nyar, you have some cool ideas for me to ponder. thx.

danny, used USB interfaces are getting very common as time goes on. you should be able to find a nice model/brand for $50 or less now.
but IMO, get one with nice pre-amps and A/D converter since that is the essence of your digital sound.

also. IMO, monitor from either the interface or even your board. don't monitor from anywhere in your computer due to propagation delays which always causes timing fuckups and latency issues.  computer circuits all function at different rates due to different tasks needing various amounts of clock ticks to perform. you cant even keep a DAW and external devices synched for long songs without master clocking. it just drifts microsecond by microsecond until it adds up

I monitor off my board fwiw
Title: Home Recording thread
Post by: Danny G on March 04, 2016, 09:09:31 AM
Yeah used would be better price, but I may have to use a credit card at Guitar Ctr (and I have some giftcards)

Plus, the paper trail = tax write off #notmyfirstrodeo \m/,


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Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: eyeprod on March 06, 2016, 01:34:51 PM
I got a new laptop that doesn't work with my old usb interface, so have been recording into the digital 8 track, dragging to the laptop and mixing in reaper. Just making some simple demos with a drum machine (volcA SAMPLE), but it's great for writing because the drums are so isolated from the other instruments. Way different than trying to record a band, with all the bleed and noise. I can actually play with ideas with this setup.

I make a drum pattern (pretty much all variations on a motorik beat), figure out a tempo that works, then record that going through a moog low pass filter I picked up cheap. Twist the cutoff a little while it's going to add some color changes. Then I just jam over that drum track. I'm all about using hardware to get the sounds/tone I want then there's much less work to do in reaper. So I spend a little time eq-ing guitars and bass, dialing in synth sounds, using different amps, pedals, or none. Also running vocals through hardware and very little plug ins are needed. A bit of auto pan on some synth tracks or maybe guitars. Sometimes add a little reverb or short delay plug ins. Mainly I use a compressor plug in and maybe some final eq on the mix. It's working well for my needs at the moment. Ben doing some new wavey post punk shit.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: black aspirin on March 06, 2016, 07:49:47 PM
I'm getting ready to put my old Roland VS-2400 digital recorder up on EBay.  Simply no use for it any more, and they still bring around $700.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: jibberish on March 07, 2016, 02:42:28 AM
BA, does that thing have the nice twin Roland effects chips in it?

I use mine as an "EQ effects" unit sometimes. I have an old VS-880.
those roland effects are pretty nice and the  mixer is handy sometimes too
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: black aspirin on March 07, 2016, 03:56:36 PM
Ummm, I don't know about the chips, LOL.

It did come with a bunch of extra plug-ins, and they are indeed terrific.  Some of them were mic simulators, so even though I was using an SM57, I could mimic certain Sennheiser mics, etc...pretty cool.  But I really don't need it any more, so I'll try to get some money out of it while I still can.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: giantchris on March 07, 2016, 07:51:17 PM
Quote from: nyarlathotep on March 02, 2016, 12:08:26 PM
Home studio progress continues...starting to plan out the technology side of things now. I've already got a basic rack and tons of mic cables, but my goal with the new space is to avoid everything getting tangled into a huge fucking mess within two days. Looking into getting some snakes (Monoprice sells really cheap ones) and maybe a patch bay to try and keep things as clean and modular as possible.

I think my 'control room' is going to be pretty unorthodox -- I don't have room in the basement to set one up and I'm not really looking to spend money wiring up a complicated snake setup to route it upstairs.

Instead, there's a Reaper plugin called ReaStream that will let me stream the audio from one Reaper to another - so, basement Reaper (laptop) will stream audio to upstairs Reaper (desktop pc), which will be the "control room". Basically no documentation for this but it actually works pretty well. Considered setting up a upstairs->downstairs stream for talkback but I think walkie-talkies might be easier...

I also bought a $5 app for my long-unused Android tablet called TouchDAW, which functions as a remote control surface for Reaper. Took a few minutes to setup but also pretty easy to use. The interface would be hell to try and use as a 'real' control surface, but it will work great for starting and stopping playback/recording and soloing/muting tracks, so I'm aiming to mainly use it when trying to record drums solo or practice to a click. In combination with my 'control room' it would give me limited control over recording too.
Sounds cool Ted you guys going to self-record next one?  How are you guys doing now that Matt left I haven't seen you posting many shows but that one first weekend in April.  I'm waiting to get my guitars setup tomorrow to start my next solo recording and Hypnochron is almost ready to record the next full-length.

Random tip - the GLS sm57 cheap knockoffs work great for toms, snare, or for the beater on kick.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: nyarlathotep on March 08, 2016, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: giantchris on March 07, 2016, 07:51:17 PM
Quote from: nyarlathotep on March 02, 2016, 12:08:26 PM
Home studio progress continues...starting to plan out the technology side of things now. I've already got a basic rack and tons of mic cables, but my goal with the new space is to avoid everything getting tangled into a huge fucking mess within two days. Looking into getting some snakes (Monoprice sells really cheap ones) and maybe a patch bay to try and keep things as clean and modular as possible.

I think my 'control room' is going to be pretty unorthodox -- I don't have room in the basement to set one up and I'm not really looking to spend money wiring up a complicated snake setup to route it upstairs.

Instead, there's a Reaper plugin called ReaStream that will let me stream the audio from one Reaper to another - so, basement Reaper (laptop) will stream audio to upstairs Reaper (desktop pc), which will be the "control room". Basically no documentation for this but it actually works pretty well. Considered setting up a upstairs->downstairs stream for talkback but I think walkie-talkies might be easier...

I also bought a $5 app for my long-unused Android tablet called TouchDAW, which functions as a remote control surface for Reaper. Took a few minutes to setup but also pretty easy to use. The interface would be hell to try and use as a 'real' control surface, but it will work great for starting and stopping playback/recording and soloing/muting tracks, so I'm aiming to mainly use it when trying to record drums solo or practice to a click. In combination with my 'control room' it would give me limited control over recording too.
Sounds cool Ted you guys going to self-record next one?  How are you guys doing now that Matt left I haven't seen you posting many shows but that one first weekend in April.  I'm waiting to get my guitars setup tomorrow to start my next solo recording and Hypnochron is almost ready to record the next full-length.

Random tip - the GLS sm57 cheap knockoffs work great for toms, snare, or for the beater on kick.

Yep, the plan is to at least give self-recording a shot - we've got all the equipment and a little bit of knowledge from our past endeavors. With Matt out we're continuing as a 4-piece for now... we don't really see ourselves as having an 'ideal' configuration so no real hurry to bring in another guitar. Keyboard would be cool though :P

If I can get a good drum sound out of my room I might try and track drums more frequently... not sure that I'll have the time or the skill required but I'd like to lend 'real' drums to a project here and there.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: giantchris on March 13, 2016, 10:39:47 PM
Keyboard is always cool you guys would fit well with someone playing an organ/synth through a tubescreamer like Ghost. Or some tripped out electric Rhodes stuff if you do any Downtempo songs. 

Self-recording is the way to go man you can get exactly the sounds you want if your willing to spend the time learning how to make them.  The great thing about doom is you don't really want pristine recordings anyways.  I don't know a super large amount about micing drums personally but for mixing them do a side chained drumbus on kick/toms/snare and compress the shit out of it and play it low level to give the attack a ton of bite.  Started doing that towards the end of recording my last one and for the new Hypnochron stuff its making them sound huge.

Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: CID Vicious on March 18, 2016, 12:27:36 PM
Intel MacBook & Presonus Firepod, GarageBand or Logic 9, SM57 & a pair of cheapo Cascade SDCs.

Melody Maker w SH5 > Tech 21 Tri A.C.

Sometimes DI. Better with an amp though, later I had a Guitar Research 1x10 that I ran clean and flat with the Tri A.C. out front.

Garnish with Crybaby, Deltatone TS clone, Line 6 LiquaFlange, DigiDelay.

"The Harness" & "Radiation Sunshine" are that setup with the GR Combo powering a Peavey XXX 412, & a Blue mic for vocals.

"The Harness"
https://youtu.be/SmAKjxsJMa4

"Radiation Sunshine"
https://youtu.be/HlcIb8yVVUQ

The rest here - "I Am Nothing" is pretty Doomy. "Welcome To America" is my first multitrack rock recording, Ministry type industro thrash. Apologies for the "drumming", my budget limited me to using "musical keys" aka the Mac keyboard to punch them in. Harness & Radiation I moved up to a LPD8, but had only owned it for like a month. These are all 2011 or older, & demos.

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Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: Danny G on March 18, 2016, 01:23:25 PM
I still haven't even had a chance to try importing some older 8-tracks recordings and remixing them in GarageBand on the new iMac.

Because SXSW :/


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Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: Dinx on April 01, 2016, 06:49:02 AM
Sometimes Id just like to have tracks for mixing practice... so if anyone has something for me that would be great!

Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: giantchris on April 01, 2016, 08:18:16 PM
Out of curiousity do any of you guys have any amp sim VST recommendations or weird effects that are relatively cheap?  I've been primarily using PODFARM 2.5 effects and stacking a bunch of them but I'd kinda like some different stuff.  That and all the good amp sims are super modern sounding 6505 or mesa stuff.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: black aspirin on April 05, 2016, 02:28:24 PM
Quote from: giantchris on April 01, 2016, 08:18:16 PM
Out of curiousity do any of you guys have any amp sim VST recommendations or weird effects that are relatively cheap?  I've been primarily using PODFARM 2.5 effects and stacking a bunch of them but I'd kinda like some different stuff.  That and all the good amp sims are super modern sounding 6505 or mesa stuff.

I don't really use amp sims, but have a decent array of effects and other plug-ins, many of which are free downloads.  If you have an idea of what kind of effects you're after, let me know and I'll try to help.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: giantchris on April 07, 2016, 12:02:09 AM
Quote from: black aspirin on April 05, 2016, 02:28:24 PM
Quote from: giantchris on April 01, 2016, 08:18:16 PM
Out of curiousity do any of you guys have any amp sim VST recommendations or weird effects that are relatively cheap?  I've been primarily using PODFARM 2.5 effects and stacking a bunch of them but I'd kinda like some different stuff.  That and all the good amp sims are super modern sounding 6505 or mesa stuff.

I don't really use amp sims, but have a decent array of effects and other plug-ins, many of which are free downloads.  If you have an idea of what kind of effects you're after, let me know and I'll try to help.
Hey there, I've been using PODFARM 2.5 which admittedly is pretty awesome.  Just looking for some different modulation/reverb/delay tones to get different layered sounds.  I also have the Schwa Phaser which is pretty nice.  I'd like something along the lines of some of the Earthquaker or Malekko effects just stuff that's random and unique sounding.  For my next solo effort I'm writing it about dreams so I'm trying to do like weird modulation effect layers where the pulses all line up differently and stuff like that.  If that makes any sense to you.  OR some cool guitar synth pedals or w/e.  Just neat original sounding stuff I can layer with what I got and make cool tones with.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: Dinx on April 12, 2016, 10:17:47 AM
I am still using pod farm 1 for most of the recordings of my demos. besides that GuitarRig5 and amplitube are quite good. I also think that Amplitube has a
Vintage Amp Pack.
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: everdrone on April 12, 2016, 04:22:52 PM
still gotta plug in my new computer, its gonna be more powerful for video editing and more audio plugins ALLZ AT ONCE!!  muwhahaha!!!!  


I finished mixing this doom metal tune today:

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/earthalliance/vortex-mind-wav-rons-original-tune-genre-doom-metal-date-20160412-no-2[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: Home Recording thread
Post by: nyarlathotep on September 22, 2016, 11:22:39 AM
Basement studio progress continues - although I'm not really done treating it acoustically I set up my recording rig to test it out again:

(http://i.imgur.com/VrCYAyU.jpg)

Works like a charm! Now if only I knew the first thing about engineering.

Looking forward to using this setup to record drums, however - by using my tablet as a control surface I should be able to do demo takes and re-takes without leaving my drum throne.