A bunch of people here are moaning that they don't have a band, their band members suck cock for coke money, they don't put out after practice - what ever the deal is.
It got me thinking - there are plenty of musicians here on the forum. Collectively there is more than enough talent and equipment. So start a Jam Room Band. Got a couple of cool riffs and licks? Record them however you can. Let the forum decide what is good, someone else can record a bass or drum or vocal track. Catch my drift?
Shit I figure with everyone here we could pound out 4 good songs.
I can set up a part of my website to hold all the tracks and mixes. I'll even mix it. (I have a pro tools.)
So what do you think?
Yea or Nay?
I ain't skeered. I like it. Pummel-o-matic for hire!
We have our first constantant. Come on down Disco Fisto!
It doesn't sound like a bad idea, but I've been burned before, the blogspot getoffmyelevator tried this for a stonerrock comp, even setup a forum for it, I submitted a song and offered percussion and geetar, it pretty much died after that, damn stoners
I'm not sure how this will work, but I'm definitely game.
I'm onboard, I can offer riffery and bassery, or slammery...
or keyboards. Who gives a fuck? We can make this fun...
I'd throw some bass down.
it seems like most of us are bass players....that could work too..
i play guitar. this could be a reason for me to breakout the soundcard and preamp!
Quote from: peyotepeddler on June 08, 2011, 08:15:23 PM
It doesn't sound like a bad idea, but I've been burned before, the blogspot getoffmyelevator tried this for a stonerrock comp, even setup a forum for it, I submitted a song and offered percussion and geetar, it pretty much died after that, damn stoners
It does have the potential to crash and burn: It's a community project...
dammitt I won't let this fail if I can help it.
Quote from: Discö Fistö on June 08, 2011, 08:18:46 PM
I'm not sure how this will work, but I'm definitely game.
Here's what I suggest:
Record a riff for 4 or 8 or 16 bars, then either email to me or perhaps a soundcloud account for this...(don't know the ins and outs of a free soundcloud account)
I can post the link, rinse, repeat.
Forum members can virtually jam to the riffs and build a song up from there.
Should someone just do a basic track, and everyone else embellish on it? I record a guitar track with some dummy drums, Gabe takes that guitar track and records his shit to it, we dump the dummy drums, Mortlock/zachoff/bloodofkings/ziggy/herb/whoever throws down some bottom end, justin/rowdybeer/me/erik/whoever throws down some leads?
Should we be required to do something outside of the narrow minded and stagnant genre?
Quote from: SunnO))) on June 08, 2011, 10:34:24 PM
Should someone just do a basic track, and everyone else embellish on it? I record a guitar track with some dummy drums, Gabe takes that guitar track and records his shit to it, we dump the dummy drums, Mortlock/zachoff/bloodofkings/ziggy/herb/whoever throws down some bottom end, justin/rowdybeer/me/erik/whoever throws down some leads?
Should we be required to do something outside of the narrow minded and stagnant genre?
That could work, I was thinking something a bit more organic. Say for instance one of your riffs works better with Willie's chorus it'd be easier to "write". Then rerecord the whole guitar part, either as a whole or piece by piece. (Might take longer)
Either works for me.
As long as each instrument is an individual track it could work.
I'll be the co-ordinator, but I'll leave the decision making up the the contributors.
Let's see what people got and make a decision from there?
EIP
Quote from: SunnO))) on June 08, 2011, 10:34:24 PM
Should we be required to do something outside of the narrow minded and stagnant genre?
Good point. Hence why I was leaning towards riffs...
Whatever happens happens. We'd all have to decide on a key and tempo, and timing... etc.
FREE JAZZ, DO IT!
Quote from: SunnO))) on June 08, 2011, 10:49:20 PM
Whatever happens happens. We'd all have to decide on a key and tempo, and timing... etc.
FREE JAZZ, DO IT!
Yep.
I'll be Rueben Kincaid.
Quote from: Jor el on June 08, 2011, 11:56:45 PM
I'll be Rueben Kincaid.
You have to play a chinese gibson
I can't.
I don't have any black electrical tape.
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Bump
Post some snipettes
I've got a NYC estilo riff just right for this bunch. If I can get off my lazy ass this weekend I'll email you a wav.
I'm game!
Who's planting the seeds? Agreed upon covers or what? Guitar, Bass, Vox, uke? Whatcha Need?
apropos of nothing.................................anyone seen this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJtq6OmD-_Y
Cool! 8)
Covers could be cool. I was talking about originals.
Right now we need anything to start. I have a simple keyboard Idead. ;D
PLaying for change is a cool concept I like it!
Quote from: inductorguitars on June 10, 2011, 06:08:05 PM
Cool! 8)
Covers could be cool. I was talking about originals.
Right now we need anything to start. I have a simple keyboard Idead. ;D
PLaying for change is a cool concept I like it!
Where can I listen to your keyboard idea?
Erik, possibly make the soundcloud and give us all the password. I can drop just aboot anything onto it.
I've done this in the past and had success by using guitar riffs and a click track to set a foundation. The click track is used to keep things square until a real drummer lays down an acceptable drum track. Then you ditch it, and keep adding embellishments until everyone is happy. I'd be down to add some psych noise, a lead, or even some slide.
I'm still hashing out the keyboard idea. Simple 70's Rhodes with phaser. ;)
Sunn will do...
I'll do some swells, and ambient electronic shit, if wanted... Do you want me to make the soundcloud, Erik?
Bass player down, distorted fuzzy lead bass. Or acoustic guitar track. Or electric. I am a pretty good finger and flat picker on guitar. This sound like fun! :D
I'm on my phone...
Sound cloud account name is Stoner Rock forum band
I think it can have a drop box, I'll look into when I get home. The full site is too slow on my phone.
The free account has only 2 hours on audio, it'll fill up fast with tracks...
http://soundcloud.com/stoner-rock-forum-band/dropbox
Try this.
Great idea ;D
Guitar is my main thing, can do bass too and if I am brave/drunk enough I could do vocals.
Scrapped the Rhodes riff, turned out like shit. I'm not a keyboard player, just a button tweaker.
Maybe I'll try just a background effect...
I'll record some keyboard shit, right now, and put it in the drop box, to bust it's cherry.
EDIT: Need the password to the account.
Email me for the password.
I'll PM Sunn it too.
http://thumbrella.blogspot.com/2011/06/bacon-guitar.html
I don't see anything yet...
Did it not upload? Fuck. I'll try again soon as I get home. I'm at the shop nursing my poor poor Marshall and it's dumb fucking microphonic tubes.
Crappy E A G G E A C G riff
Individual tracks of HH and Rhoades with Distortion and phaser.
http://soundcloud.com/stoner-rock-forum-band
Derp. What's the email you used for it? It won't let me upload shit unless I'm logged in.
I fucked up on the uploads...
I reuploaded the correct tracks.
ejarvi2@gmail.com
Need to get some real recording gear besides my 4-track tape and I would totally do it.
Quote from: Instant Dan on June 15, 2011, 04:06:42 PM
Need to get some real recording gear besides my 4-track tape and I would totally do it.
Record on the 4 track then cable it into the computer.
Johnny-come-lately here: I could probably lay down some lap steel licks during the sustained notes, if that seems like a good idea to those already on board.
If it does, should I go for bluesy or atmospheric?
moar spacerock
It absolutely will not let me upload shit from my computer.
its not working for me either. some error about sharing?
I bet sound cloud has IP detection for password sharing like we're doing.
email me the clips and I'll get them up.
And Third times a charm with the Rhodes part. I was trying to rush it this morning.
Just upload to mediafire and post the links in the thread!
http://www.mediafire.com/?bs5eb10dv65lj8e
Sunn's keyboard track up at soundclod
I've got a bass riff, and a drum track to go with it. Not much, just something I had leftover from a previous sesh. It's only a minute or two. Mess with it if you want. Lose the bass, keep the drums, redo it, add to it, whatever. I'm not attached, but I think a basic thing like this is the best way to get something started. You gotta have drums and a riff, as I see it. If you drop these tracks into an audio editor they'll line up perfectly, and it would be easy to add overdubs. I think it would also be easy enough to punch in a new part as this one starts to fade. anyway, check it out. I think the jam room band idea is way past due. We have the technology. ;D
http://soundcloud.com/eyeprod (http://soundcloud.com/eyeprod)
What tuning, big guy? Ill lay down some leadsyyyy and new riffs.
Finally got a new DMM so I can fix my VERY METAL pedal.
Loading up eyeprods files...
He's playing C C# yes?
C# C that is.
ha, good question. I think it might be B standard that I was tuned to. Otherwise I would guess it's D
wow, i missed out on this. M&B pointed this thread out. awesome to actually see people actually brewing stuff up and making moves towards a combined effort. i'll listen to as much stuff as i can accesss, then start asking questions.
disco, it's all about the music, not that other general discussion tripe. you saw me way outside of my realm there. wont be going there ever again heh. i'm really here only for the music. would really like to work with you too, if that is cool with you.
I'm currently ampless - so I'm borrowing an amp or two, more to come...
I just got a tascam interface for my pc for this, count me in ;D
So how would I go about doing this? Connect the Line out of my amp into the microphone in on my computer and then to audacity? or should it be mic'd? Also what if the room where I play Buzzy? No mic...
Quote from: SpaceTrucker on June 23, 2011, 02:43:10 PM
So how would I go about doing this? Connect the Line out of my amp into the microphone in on my computer and then to audacity? or should it be mic'd? Also what if the room where I play Buzzy? No mic...
I'd try to mic it into the mic input of the computer. (depending on what mic you have...) What gear do you have and I can tell you the best way to do it...
My father has some mics, vocal Mics. I got a peavey vtm 120 and a road 4 12(with 2 slot ports on the back). So micing is the best way?
Yea mic it. What mics to you have access to?
keeping it alive. ok i used the drum+bass 24bit eyeprod files. look and smell like something reaper puked out. = works for me since i use reaper. i am not going to touch those eyeprod files in my project so that i can throw generically useable files in 24bit that fit with eyeprod's and everyone stays on the same page.
oh before i forget:
folks, audacity does not like 24bit wavefiles..SO i tried out Wavosaur way back when i set up my reaper (reaper needs external wave file editor, it is pure mixer) and wavosaur works nicely for slicing and dicing in 24bit.
y'all may think 24bit is extra storage waste bullshit, but i found a very valuable use for 24bit vs 16bit. when you are mixing w/e 10 tracvks down in reaper, 16bit wave source files blur/smear..w/e lose the definition of all that is happening far more than 24bit files do when you mix down a pile of those.
OK, I ended up with a basic "iommi and geezerstello meet the mummy" film soundtrack for a rhythm part. eyeprod is solidly in the key of C/c minor/ c pentatonic with that D above. this is an extreme bonus for me since C is my keyboard wank scale. i also chose my chord progression carefully in the bridgelette (heh not all that much time there) so that each chord carried "C" in it and didnt fight with the occasional motion off of C by the bass(like A min, B flat 9th, Dm7 w/e all still carry the c)
"ok tough guy, where is it?" you ask. heh..making it up and dialling it in was the hard part, now i'll record it, and im going to make it thin, hopefully to help in a full mix and not fight the bass.
i am also cooking up a guitar wank, egyption drifting sand doom style, a way f'd up vocal piece AND a spacey psych ambience track..so i gots my plate full with this
maybe slightly off-topic, but steinberg cubase 6 got stellar reviews from Mix magazine(i read that religiously heh)
it is 5 bills and can do certain things better than pro tools even. also stole a crapload of protools features which once made protools heads above...but not so much.
ALSO, if you want protools, load windows 98 on a smoking fast PC and get their old 98 version for free. remember, that was top of the line at one time. it still works and phukking phenomenally phor phree iph you phollow.
i really REALLY like reaper. the install file is like 5megs and stores on a memory stick really easily for instant install on any random PC. my only complaint so far is that the metronome seems to bleed across tracks = not cool. biut i need to spend more time looking that over very closely to make sure i'm not being a stu here...
I've always used Cubase (for modest home recording things) and have nothing but good things to say about it.
yeah I use cubase too. it's just fine.
it's cool to see someone actually thinking about and working on this concept. thanks jibberish!
i am working on it. cutting room floor filling up fast...im changing tones..better just settle on something and move on.
sorting ideas for the vocals...etc...
these things have historically bombed. i have tried to start a bunch over the sr.com years. all fails.
or even pitched in like the dubh croi black metal "idea" for a project... i composed like a mutherfucker and got a whole scratch track together..that was it..story after story.
so basically, from my perspective, YOU are the ONLY other person who actually has delivered ANYTHING....EVER.
that makes this thread pretty huge in my little world heh.
edit: notwithstanding other's adding in to this thread btw....
ok, ive worked out a pair of rhythms. i like them both. one needs some massaging to fit better, but looking good.
im horsing around with wank tracks and i threw together some goofball vocals just to hear the rhytnm under it and how it fits. seems like the thing broke into: intro/phrase/phrase/little bridge/phrase(solo no vocals)/phrase/phrase and it ended clean. i cant tell but the bridge seems a beat short or maybe im stretching some phrasing idk yet.
this is just a take from the reaper project. when i finally get nice tracks, i'll host them separately and timed with eyeprod's
and now, i probly should leave town cause eyeprod is coming after me when he hears this butchery heh.
http://www.rusynyk.com/jmusic/srcloudproject1a.mp3 (http://www.rusynyk.com/jmusic/srcloudproject1a.mp3)
Hey,
Sorry about the absence. Had a series of utility failures - comcast, then ComEd, then I had to go to my grandmother's funeral.
I'm more of a rhythm guitar player and a better engineer. I do have a guitar part for eyeprod's tracks but haven't recorded it yet. Fucking real life.
Jibberish's stuff is cool very Helios Creed. I like. Can you post the indvidual tracks?
^ i am working on getting nice tracks for this now that i roughed out some kind of structure.
there are two total sabbath style rhythm tracks. one is solid. that faster one has a rough spot. also this take got off on the timing at one point, but good enough for the scratch version. not good enough for others to possibly use as the only rhythm track.
the vocals were just something, anything to fill in the phrasing so i could:
a) see if it COULD match the rhythm i was using
b)define some kind of phrasing and structure to get a 1:30 whole song heh.
I like doing wacko lyrics, i have a notebook loaded with ideas and like one verse of some horseshit, and entire songs, so i just lazied out and did that again, but the phrasing is legit, or will be...
SO, yes my 1st 2 tracks will be nice 24bit takes of rhythm tracks, matched to eyeprod's original tracks, timing and length. im hoping to just offer a pile of pick-n-choose tracks for w/e mangling or w/e
additional tracks will be some type of wank (i tried one out in there too ) which will be matched but more a box of legos to slice out pieces if the whole deal is too incoherent.
im still working on a cosmic space ambience track, and dicking around with alll my synths and modules to find either a realy strangled oboe/snake charm sounding thing OR a real scratchy frankenstein movie violin sound. much fun is being had over at this end. :)
btw, isis and osiris really do sound like brands of flour. that sparked the whole lyrics thing heh.
I gotta check it out. I love Helios Creed, he is one of my favorites. If it sounds like him I'm all for it, but like I originally said, I'm not attached. Just wanted to put something out there and see what happens. Butcher it all you want. I love hearing other peoples approaches in this kind of setting.
Ok, so I have a throw away riff with an intro I want to throw out there. I really like Eyeprod's when the levee breaks 4/4 drums but it ain't gonna jive with whats I got. So, I need a 6/4 drum line (yeah, I know 6/4! sheesh!). I'll post the intro and riff and the drum click this weekend or sooner. warning, it has has a neil young touch to it.
ok, my 2 rhythm tracks of my 1st pattern are ok enough to throw out there. if they still suck, lemme know, i'll redo them some more.
i want to mention that eyeprod showed some pretty keen foresight in puting his bass+drums together. a hint of how the phrasing will be in the intro, then dead nuts simple, yet cool so is big space to play in. been great horsing around with it. not frustrating at all. thx :)
ok first an mp3 of the 2 tracks together with the bass+drums just so y'all get the idea.( clean+distort same pattern) the guitars are mixed way forward for the example. use the separate tracks if more things will be involved.
http://www.rusynyk.com/jmusic/srcloudproject1rhythmpair1.mp3 (http://www.rusynyk.com/jmusic/srcloudproject1rhythmpair1.mp3)
here is first rhythm, the clean track, in 24bit wave format (took a while to upload heh)
version 1 is clean LP studio with PUP switch jumped and all vol/toneknobs on full, cause thats how i roll heh
http://www.rusynyk.com/jmusic/srcloudproject1rhythm1version1.wav (http://www.rusynyk.com/jmusic/srcloudproject1rhythm1version1.wav)
here is second rhythm , the dist track., also 24bit wav.
version 2 is with the HM-2. dist knob all the way off, tones tweaked however i fell it for the day, but always around the middle. gets too heavey metal when you get extreme with them. scooping and all that...sry i dont have a little 1watt tube amp to mic. i even have the right mic..i'll get that fixed along the way..but in the meantime, it came out kind of juicy
http://www.rusynyk.com/jmusic/srcloudproject1rhythm1version2.wav (http://www.rusynyk.com/jmusic/srcloudproject1rhythm1version2.wav)
these both have a mile of waste in the front, but they are timed to eyeprods tracks. once you have them set in your DAW, trim the whole front end off them if you want since it is just waste..or not since it is quiet waste heh
and FINALLY..my goofball vocals added to those rhyyms which are now backed off more properly. everything is dry except one copy of the vocals that got extreme delay echo and feedback for long echo repeat number.
i like copying tracks to add effects and keep a dry one. seems to all mix much cleaner/nicer/more detail
http://www.rusynyk.com/jmusic/srcloudproject1demo2.mp3 (http://www.rusynyk.com/jmusic/srcloudproject1demo2.mp3)
I was cleaning up my hard drive and found this. It's a song idea I had demo'd for my old band but forgot about.
Anyone who wants to take a stab at putting some drums, bass, vocals, violin solo or whatever floats your boat on this is welcome. It was done with a click, but maybe not too well. If you want to chop it up and rearrange it to make a club remix go right ahead.
http://snd.sc/oHm7WV (http://snd.sc/oHm7WV)
Herb, where the fuck is Erik?
that sounds like a damnweevil track, neighbor ;D
I like the intro a lot. I can hear some drum parts, but damn there's quite a few changes that will take some listening to.
just got my hands on this motherfucker.
http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=960
I will be joining the fray soon.
That is not the fray I'll be joining, no.
Christ that was awful.
It occurred to me that I should put up another version of that tune without the leads towards the end. There is not much there that I am attached to and it would be cool to hear someone else give a stab at it. Heck maybe we can work out some harmony leads? I'll get that one up as soon as I can find the original project file.
I just uploaded a WAV of the tune to the soundcloud thingy. Minus the solos.
Audacity is spitting out 16bit. So, it is what it is.
boy, all kinds of new stuff to play with here. that's great. im a bit distracted now, so ill be lagging for a couple weeks yet, but these things need a bunch of listens anyway to spark ideas. so at least i can start letting them sink in in the meantime
Seems like a nice idea just too bad it can't be recorded in one go. I'm not a skype user, but is it not possible to play live together through it and record that?
hey disco, i was checking out your recorder you linked. there are some really slick features. the rubber housing is a capitol idea. old recorders were so resonant with all those lively plastic parts. makes the wireless remote a titch less necessary(also a killer feature). and lastly, the mp3 converter built in and the USB connectability would let you dump that into your smartphone for cloud uploading right?(im guessing but it sure seems like a logical step to skip the laptop/PC entirely)
the downside: you're stuck with those mics. stereo mics yet....
i've pondered that style of recorder (btw, check out the new Korg, i think G2 is the model. they say it's flat out the best fidelity pocket recorder. i saw an ad in mix. sick specs..)and ultimately i cant see a real mic setup with a USB mixer to a laptop as being that much more of an equipment hassle for anything other than a spontaneous session or like recording at a show
on a serious application note, those little stereo recorders pick up the ambient environment of lets say a church choir being recorded from the back of the church, like listener prspective location, phenomenally. it's like it records like you hear in that situation..idk if that makes sense. when you listen, you sense the location of that recording just by how your brain interprets the delayed echoes that get picked up very nicely and visualize that larger space. so in that respect, that mic/recorder design is awesome. the closer you try to mic, the rougher it gets.
Has this idea been abandoned?
Maybe just forgotten. I've been busy
Working on getting a monthly practice space. As it stands now I'd have to pay for practice studio time by the hour to contribute. All the time I'm paying for at the moment is going toward Lead Breath (as soon as I have demo tracks, I'll post them). Once I have studio time that I'm not paying ridiculous hourly prices for, I'm in. (Hoping by mid-october)
Hey Disco, any time you and Laurie wanna do something long distance I'd be down.
Just need a decent recommendation of a better recorder as my old tape one crapped out. Something for $200 or less.
I'm down with this. Guitar, bass, drums, etc. Only if SunnO))) does it with me though :-*
I think Erik has gone AWOL, so as for him doing all of the coordination... I think that's done with...
Neighbor - I'll mention it to Laurie.
Quote from: Instant Dan on September 24, 2011, 11:28:38 PM
Just need a decent recommendation of a better recorder as my old tape one crapped out. Something for $200 or less.
audacity+the PC you are here in the forum on or even better , a laptop which then can go anywhere+ input into soundcard from something with a line out, like a mixer or an unpowered condensor into the mic input.
the next free level would be reaper(DAW) +another wave editor like wavesaur(24bit wavefile editor you need to help reaper out)
i do quicky recordings from behringer POS little mixer (no srsly, i like it)->soundblaster card->audacity.
the mixer with effects is like $100 new or w/e $50-60 used online if you dont have a reasonably small mixer(giant one works but...heh). i dont know what you could use the other $100 for, maybe a couple memory sticks, guitar strings and an eighth of killer
weak sauce guys, not a total surprise though
ya a lot of talking. i'm half thinking of trying a noise thing with just 1-2 people that do that. i never played around in that realm.
also maybe too many people here have enough music to grind their brains on without stacking another less essential project onto the pile.
i'm probably more in the minority of people with few musical outlets or obligations in place already. i would guess that's where MK is (was w/e) since she had time to post lots of her tunes. i have posted lots of my lame stuff over the years. sinks like a rock to page 3. one bonus is the intro to ultimo viaggio(need davidATX to get me straight on the portuguese for "last voyage" again) has turned into one of my favorite tunes to play. especially with a strong delay to really ping the pongs. my colour haze mountain ripoff jam is a total crowd pleaser now...also sank like lead
i probably could add track after sabbathy track to the eyeprod thing, but probably no one can relate or w/e. so regardless, i actually have benefitted from some of the effort i've put into trying to get stuff going.
what i'm saying is, i don't expect this thing to vault ahead, but if it stays alive for long enough maybe it will result in something cool finally