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Title: Picking up an agile today
Post by: ROWDYBEER on January 19, 2011, 10:27:46 AM
Agile AL-3100 CSB Bird $200
Hoping all the hype is true. I need this to replace my 76 Gibson Sg standard so I can sell it and get another Yamaha sg2000.
What has to be done to agiles to make them gig worthy? 
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: black_out on January 19, 2011, 11:55:28 AM
Most people completely rewire them and throw new pickups in, but my friend just bought one with P90s and that beast sounds pretty damn good as is.
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: ROWDYBEER on January 19, 2011, 01:28:01 PM
Holy shit the hype is real. This thing is sweet. My only complaint is the set up sucks. Action is crazy high. Other than that I may not do anything. I have some seymour pafs and rs guitarworks electronics if need be. Unbelievable for $200.
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: dogfood on January 19, 2011, 06:58:51 PM
nut. plastic. change.  much improvement.
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: ROWDYBEER on January 19, 2011, 07:40:52 PM
I think it has a graph tech tusq nut. Its not plastic.
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: Ranbat on January 19, 2011, 09:44:04 PM
I didn't do anything to my Valkyrie III except tweak the action and intonation a little and I've had it about 6 years. Never failed me at a gig or practice. I do believe mine has a plastic nut but I think the newer ones have better nuts.
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: ROWDYBEER on January 20, 2011, 08:52:05 AM
According to Kurt agile never used plastic nuts. Always graphite. Im not clear if he was referring to AL-3100's or all agiles. He did not specify he just said hat it was not possible for the nut to be plastic because agile has always used graphite and around march of 2009 they started using graph tech nuts.
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: giantchris on January 21, 2011, 02:06:22 AM
I love my Al-3100 great guitar.
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: Discö Rice on January 22, 2011, 04:12:59 AM
For fuck's sake post pictures!
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: Mike_Sims on January 22, 2011, 10:52:21 PM
Agile is definitely a big bang for your buck. I have an AL-3000 myself w/ P90's, the thing is nothing other than amazing. Sounds incredible! The electronic work was actually done really well, the finish is beautiful as well. Agree with the setup statement though, but it's always fun (for me at least) to set guitars up to your own specs. And yes, they use Graphtec nuts.
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 23, 2011, 12:04:56 AM
Quote from: Mike_Sims on January 22, 2011, 10:52:21 PM
Agile is definitely a big bang for your buck. I have an AL-3000 myself w/ P90's, the thing is nothing other than amazing. Sounds incredible! The electronic work was actually done really well, the finish is beautiful as well. Agree with the setup statement though, but it's always fun (for me at least) to set guitars up to your own specs. And yes, they use Graphtec nuts.

Glad you found your way, Sims.
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: Mike_Sims on January 23, 2011, 01:00:00 AM
Yeahhh dude, thanks again for that, man. My down time was getting real boring without this place!!!  8)
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: ROWDYBEER on January 23, 2011, 09:24:53 AM
Here she is. In all her real maple top glory. Fuck yeah agile. $200 fucking crazy

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Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: Discö Rice on January 23, 2011, 10:58:19 AM
Nice! Congrats, man!
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: giantchris on January 23, 2011, 11:48:10 AM
0o0o0o0o0o I like the colour.  Throw some clips!  And dude who had the AL-3000 with the p90s got any clips of that one? 
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: ROWDYBEER on January 23, 2011, 05:50:01 PM
So I a b c'd some guitars on my rig. Two emperor 2x12's loaded with weber 65's, ampeg v4, earthbound audio supercollider.
Agile AL3100 vs 1976 Gibson Sg standard vs 1979 Yamaha sg2000
Agile smoked the Gibson Sg and is a great second guitar to the Yamaha.
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: ROWDYBEER on January 23, 2011, 06:22:52 PM
Picks of said rig in the show off thread. Ha
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: Discö Rice on January 23, 2011, 08:55:08 PM
"smoked the gibson"?

Smoked how?
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: Mike_Sims on January 24, 2011, 02:07:44 AM
Quote from: giantchris on January 23, 2011, 11:48:10 AM
0o0o0o0o0o I like the colour.  Throw some clips!  And dude who had the AL-3000 with the p90s got any clips of that one?  

...Perhaps. Not playing anything really, just wanking off and saturating myself in tone. I'll play an actual song for once soon. You can hear it on my band's recordings, but I'm not gonna whore it out on here out of courtesy. If you're interested just PM me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4x1ic10BW8

Edit: Here's another. Using a Rat on this one. Same story, bullshit playing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbnyXFb0gOM
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: ROWDYBEER on January 24, 2011, 08:27:02 AM
Quote from: Discö Rice on January 23, 2011, 08:55:08 PM
"smoked the gibson"?

Smoked how?

Gibson was packed in bong, lit up, and smoked. Agile for the win high as hell.

SPAM
1976 gibson Sg standard for sale!!!!!w/ohsc
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: Discö Rice on January 24, 2011, 11:45:14 AM
Right, I get it. I'm just curious as to what specifically was better about the tone. Believe me, if I had the cash, I'd take that SG off your hands in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: ROWDYBEER on January 24, 2011, 02:31:49 PM
The agile just has a bigger sound. Don't get me wrong a Gibson Sg has it's place but not in my hands. I guess I'm just a heavy guitar guy. Going from a 10+ pound guitar to the Gibson Sg is just tough. Feels like a kids guitar.
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: Mike_Sims on January 24, 2011, 05:26:40 PM
Quote from: ROWDYBEER on January 24, 2011, 02:31:49 PM
The agile just has a bigger sound. Don't get me wrong a Gibson Sg has it's place but not in my hands. I guess I'm just a heavy guitar guy. Going from a 10+ pound guitar to the Gibson Sg is just tough. Feels like a kids guitar.
This is true, I switch back n forth between my Agile (yes, they really weigh like 10+ pounds) and a couple SG's and yeah, it's a huge difference. I'm still not used to the smaller scale of the sg haha
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 25, 2011, 02:20:25 AM
The SG has the same scale as the Agile, Mike. 24.75 is Gibson scale, 25.5 is Fender, 25 is a PRS, etc. Scale length really only makes a huge difference in terms of how easy bends are, and I guess intonation at lower tunings. The difference in feel with any guitar is so subjective to each player, it's hard to take a spec. sheet and decipher which instrument is better. The neck on the LP, as well as the gravity effect of the heavy guitar, probably suits it to your hands better. Kind of like a pillar. I can move my SG around, a lot easier than I can any of my Teles, or LPs. My SG has a baseball bat neck on it, and it neck dives like a mothefucker, but it plays like a dream. The LPs, on the other hand, stay in perfect balance, and stay in one place when I play them, but I can't manipulate the entire guitar to get certain nuances like I can the SG. It's just a matter of the player, you know?
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: Mike_Sims on January 25, 2011, 04:02:24 AM
Interesting, maybe I'm just mind fucking myself. Feels like the frets on the SG are way smaller, I tend to "over slide" sometimes on it
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 25, 2011, 10:53:18 AM
The frets could very well be smaller, but all that would do is put your fingers closer to the fretboard, adding drag to your bends... Really old LP's and SG's are known as "fretless wonders," they had super low to the board frets, and super easy action. The cost of this was losing easy bends. The more of your finger that touches the board, the harder it is to bend. Extreme cases, Malmsteen's scalloped board totally eliminates fretboard drag, this allowing him to play as fast and sloppy as he wants.
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: Mike_Sims on January 25, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 25, 2011, 10:53:18 AM
Extreme cases, Malmsteen's scalloped board totally eliminates fretboard drag, this allowing him to play as fast and sloppy as he wants.
I Lol'd . Well, I'm just a caveman. I just pick up and play  8)
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 25, 2011, 08:23:12 PM
Quote from: Mike_Sims on January 25, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 25, 2011, 10:53:18 AM
Extreme cases, Malmsteen's scalloped board totally eliminates fretboard drag, this allowing him to play as fast and sloppy as he wants.
I Lol'd . Well, I'm just a caveman. I just pick up and play  8)

Yeah, so is he. hahaha.
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: neighbor664 on October 08, 2012, 10:34:06 AM
Ok, I took the plunge. I placed an order for a built to order Goldtop Agile AL-3XXX. I won't get it till Feb or March though.

Solid Mahogany
Neck-Thru
Contoured Heel
Agile Alnico V Hum
6 String
Standard Neck
Abalone Trap Inlay
Ebony FB
Nickel Silver
Tune-O-Matic
Nickel HW
Gold Knobs/ Cream Rings
Cream Pickguard
Triple Cream Binding
Right Handed
24 3/4" Scale   
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: James1214 on October 08, 2012, 01:16:15 PM
tight
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: clockwork green on October 08, 2012, 02:12:43 PM
I always saw you as more of an 8-string active pickup kinda guy :)
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: RacerX on October 08, 2012, 02:36:56 PM
Ouch.
Title: Re: Picking up an agile today
Post by: fallen on October 09, 2012, 02:48:25 PM
Looking forward to seeing this guitar. I've been looking at those double cuts they make but they only have it in a quilted top that I'm not really into. Doesn't look like there's a custom option for that model though.

http://www.rondomusic.com/ad2000amb.html (http://www.rondomusic.com/ad2000amb.html)

A double cut in tobacco burst over flamed maple would look amazing on that shape.