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Title: Speaker question: v30 vs. Black Shadow?
Post by: hayseed on July 03, 2013, 01:30:13 PM
I've read all the reviews about the 2 but I figured I would present the topic to you fine fellows. The Jam Room has yet to steer me wrong .

I am running a Laney AOR 100 (8knob). I am looking at a Knappenberger 212CB (any info on this cab would help too) in a trade and I have a choice in speakers- Celestion V30s or Mesa Black Shadows. I loved my Orange 212 with V30s and know nothing about the Black Shadows( and tend to run when I see Mesa). I read good things about both but lack experience in speaker identification. Any help would be great.
Title: Re: Speaker question: v30 vs. Black Shadow?
Post by: Lumpy on July 04, 2013, 03:33:30 AM
There's info about the Black Shadow speakers online. Do searches at http://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php? (http://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?) and http://www.harmonycentral.com (http://www.harmonycentral.com)

I haven't used those speakers, so I would just be repeating stuff that I read. But one thing I remember reading... at least a couple of kinds of speakers are labeled Black Shadow by Mesa. If I'm not mistaken... maybe because there were different periods, I forget the details.
Title: Re: Speaker question: v30 vs. Black Shadow?
Post by: hayseed on July 04, 2013, 10:16:35 AM
I read both of those reviews earlier. I did see several different variations of the same speaker. Basically seems like apples and oranges at this point.
Title: Re: Speaker question: v30 vs. Black Shadow?
Post by: Mr. Foxen on July 04, 2013, 07:06:13 PM
Go for the V30s, know where you are with them. New they are wicked harsh, if you don't dig, wear them in by running a low frequency sine through them for a bunch of time.
Title: Re: Speaker question: v30 vs. Black Shadow?
Post by: hayseed on July 10, 2013, 11:48:44 PM
Before it even happened the guy flaked anyway! So....Im picking up an Avatar 412 with Hellatone 60s and Celestion K100s. Much happier.....
Title: Re: Speaker question: v30 vs. Black Shadow?
Post by: Muffin Man on July 11, 2013, 02:36:43 AM
does you 8 knober have metal corners? /curious. Are Hellatone 60's ceramic? I'm guessing the K100's are. Your speaker mix probably sounds great?
Title: Re: Speaker question: v30 vs. Black Shadow?
Post by: Mr. Foxen on July 11, 2013, 07:06:00 AM
Aren't K100s 3db down compared to the hellatones?
Title: Re: Speaker question: v30 vs. Black Shadow?
Post by: hayseed on July 11, 2013, 06:06:28 PM
The 8 knobber does not have metal corners, they are plastic. My
Original AOR100 had plastic as well. Not sure but I think that dates them somehow
Title: Re: Speaker question: v30 vs. Black Shadow?
Post by: Mr. Foxen on July 13, 2013, 08:13:54 PM
They changed style of plastic corners a few times. I've had a klipp with the interlocking style plastic corners too, but some AORs have had smooth plastic corners. I've had a lot of AORs.