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Title: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on November 30, 2013, 05:19:42 PM
just as a starter...lookee what those scamps at arturia just cooked up for 3 bills street price:

the micro brute. same nasty oscillator and filter plus some kind of step sequencer now. I haven't looked at any demos yet, just saw it cruising black Friday deals online.

(http://www.capeaudiocollege.co.za/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Mini_Micro.png)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on November 30, 2013, 05:27:46 PM
Been hearing about them for bit.  I'm on the Arturia forums. I love my MiniBrute.  I'm considering a Novation Bass Station II.  I'm also eyeballing a Korg MS2000 with keys.  I didn't jump on that rack mount one soon enough and it went away.

Also Elektron Analog Keys.  Drool.  Maybe spring time.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/Analog-Keys-By-Elektron-Top-Viewjpg_292_482_85_zpsb4223b26.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/Analog-Keys-By-Elektron-Top-Viewjpg_292_482_85_zpsb4223b26.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on December 03, 2013, 05:16:54 AM
got a minibrute, love it and wouldn't leave it ever. keeper. wish it had a sequencer like the micro. rumors of firmware updates promise such. remains to be seen. using software seq's in the interim.
demo'd a korg ms2000 at guit center and hated the construction. seemed to be a flubby toy. awkward lil keys/just me.
my main keeper is my moog sub phatty.
a demo i did when i first got it, (the audio is actually my macbook output picking up my headphones, but it totally RAWKS!).
fantastic synth. simply fantastic.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on December 03, 2013, 05:28:12 AM
this time, a MINIBRUTE vid. again, headphone audio... ON THE RUN-
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on December 03, 2013, 05:33:14 AM
and finally, an early MINIBRUTE demo i did when i first got it.. same audio schtuff.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 03, 2013, 10:40:59 AM
Yeah I remember you put those up a while back. Good stuff.

I was at my buddy's shop yesterday and he had a supernova rack. Seems interesting. I can't stop.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on December 03, 2013, 09:06:34 PM
Quote from: RAGER on December 03, 2013, 10:40:59 AM
Yeah I remember you put those up a while back. Good stuff.

I was at my buddy's shop yesterday and he had a supernova rack. Seems interesting. I can't stop.

thanks and sorry if i'm spreading a bit thin there bruh.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on December 03, 2013, 09:08:30 PM
so anyone out there using an analog sequencer?
would love a doepfer dark time.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 03, 2013, 10:25:24 PM
Not me just yet but it's only a matter of time before I start delving into the modular world.  I'm just getting started.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/photo12_zps252a396f.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/photo12_zps252a396f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on December 04, 2013, 12:37:00 AM
I like the spread of tv trays.. 

I sold my mini b. I didn't like it. I like my concertmate better as far as keyboard based synths go. this is the shit I have the most fun with..
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/407433_362774333735137_457038562_n.jpg)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 04, 2013, 12:44:16 PM
Do you have an MG-1?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on December 05, 2013, 02:06:05 AM
yeah, its a little beat up but it still kicks ass. moogmutilatedpowerelectronics
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/293147_492833340729235_150203887_n.jpg)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 05, 2013, 10:32:38 AM
That's badass.  Id love to have one.

So I went to check out that Novation Supernova at my buddy's shop and the reason it's so cheap is that it doesn't work.  lights come on but no sound.  So he said he'd sell it to me as is for $100.  it was marked at $200.  Fully functioning these are usually around the $800 mark and some synth nerds prefer these over the Virus Ti.  That's a whoa! to me.  From some of my research the culprit might be a 30 pin DAC chip.  So I think I'm gonna go for it.  If I can fix it myself, awesome.  If I have to pay somebody a couple hundo, I'm still happy.  Prolly pick it up after work today.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 05, 2013, 05:18:48 PM
bond it to a Winnebago frame, that should fix 'er right up.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 06, 2013, 12:54:24 PM
Here she be.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_15221_zps799a3ceb.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_15221_zps799a3ceb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on December 07, 2013, 12:26:51 AM
man, i hope the fix works out for you... what a steal if it does!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 07, 2013, 09:29:34 AM
ya no shit. 

you could open it up and look it over for physical issues like a cold solder joint , broken wire/component lead, lifted trace, fuse/fuseable link that is shot.  make sure the wall wart is full voltage. look the pcb's over for off colored areas and also puffy looking caps,

you can also look over the main brains of the thing and see if it is in a zif socket of some sort. those are user replaceable.

call the company and ask for tech tips.  "my baby went quiet, help me please" how could they refuse? haha
seriously, they would know if there is a common issue like yours and the fix is well known.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 07, 2013, 12:40:47 PM
It's probably just because I don't know what I'm doing and when I figure it out I'll find what's wrong with it but I haven't yet.  Using my Micron as a master keyboard midi-wise, I'm able to go through programs and manipulate LFO's, oscillators, and effects.  I only spent about 45 minutes with it last night.  I'm off tomorrow so I'll be able to spend some quality time with it.  Could be that when it warms up it does wonky shit.  Will report but for the sounds I'm getting out of now it's worth the hundo. 8)

Gotta play my guitar again one of these days. heh.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 07, 2013, 06:35:09 PM
There are no less than 4 Korg MS2000's on the local CL.  Fucking hell.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on December 10, 2013, 08:55:11 PM
It's cool to see that this thread has gotten more interesting. I've been way into my electronic toys lately as well. Finally getting back in the zone, where I understand the synthesis part of it well enough to actually dial things in the way I really want to. You know, it's easy and basically satisfying to just do some filter sweeps and play with the LFO etc, but I like to get a little more out of it. It's fun to delve into. I get inspiration from things that I listen to, and for me it's funny how I end up dwelling in the 80's. So much cool electronic shit going on back then and it was raw because it was new at the time.

So all I have is my minibrute, a casio type keyboard (I really only use it for the drum machine) and my guitar pedal board. I've got a little mixer that I use to plug in any or all of the instruments that I want to be able to route through the minibrutes' audio in. I've got my bass, casio, and even a drum mic (snare or kick) going in, and they can all trigger the synth. The minibrute is a great little unit. Granted, it has it's limitations and it can feel a bit like a toy compared to some other synths, but the same can easily be said for most "student level" synths, AKA the cheaper ones. I've owned a lot of cool analog synths over the years and most were in that same category. The only ones I wish I still had was the Prodigy, the Liberation and maybe the Juno 60. The Lib was actually kind of a lame synth imo, but you can strap it on, so it was cool. The MB has a lot of neat features and so I find it to be a keeper. I'm excited to get one of those microBrutes. The demos sound amazing.

So anyway, I've been using that casio drum machine for kicks. Practicing along with it, jamming electronic shit like Chrome and whatnot. Sometimes it sounds surprisingly good going through the minibrute filter, but I think it would be better to get a dedicated drum unit of some sort. Something smaller and better sounding. I'm leaning towards something older and simpler. I just ordered one of those new Ibanez analog delay pedals for my synth board. Theres a mini novation synth that looks and sounds dope. I need to pick up a polyphonic synth of some sort and that one is on my radar for sure. I forget the name of it at the moment.

So what are you guys doing with your synth rigs?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 11, 2013, 01:44:15 PM
Hey Robert, good to hear from ya!  Can you post a pic of your settings on the minibrute when you have instruments into it?  I tried briefly to run my bass through it but it didn't seem like the line level was enough to trigger anything.  You using a pedal before it?

This is usually my view late nights on my days off.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_15291_zps624cd3c2.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_15291_zps624cd3c2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 11, 2013, 03:19:00 PM
ya eyeprod. my nephew is going to cover that Egypt stinks that I made up on your rhythm..haha. yeah.

I am kind of jonesing for an audio input and vocorder on the next synth I get too.

I am also working on something simple and lightweight to add to a MIDI keyboard so that I can set it on the ground and play it like a foot organ pedalboard.  if I keep the extensions light, the springs in the keys can lift it.
I also am thinking about going active for my multiple/latchable sustain pedal system. then I can use mom. contact switches and latches and SS relays, but I have to power it. but then I could have LED's showing the status of each pedal (off or sustaining or latched on)

why am I doing these 2 things?  I cant play more than 2 synths at a time = unacceptable. I want to be able to play 4 at once. there is no reason to tie up a foot or hand on a pad that takes 45sec to unfold. I could hit a key one time with the sustain latched and forget about it until it is time to kill the note by unlatching or globally resetting the sustains.
timing pads is too much work unless every one will have the same duration through the entire song. glwt.

secondly, if I can play a couple synths by foot, I can play a guitar along with that. or ultimately a chapman stick, now that they are making uber precise aluminum bodies for WAAAAAY cheaper ($1700 for the 10 string aluminum body)

picture an original Yamaha DX-7, a big 76key casio (my $20 garage sale score for a MIDI controller), and that korg x-10. then an alesis drum machine, boss gm synth module and a Kawaii KR-4 rack module and whatever pedals I want to borrow from my son besides my HM-2. I would also like to get my old 8track HD recorder fired up just to use the mixer and effects. I have to find the camera and put something in the virgin photobucket account that I have actually started
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on December 11, 2013, 07:30:38 PM
nice Jib. I have a friend who has taken a microkorg brain and attached it to an old organ pedal keyboard. I guess it's all done with CV, so supposedly it was pretty easy to switch out. I need to get a pic of that, along with some of his other cool homemade stuff. He does a one man show. Sounds right along the lines of what you have in mind.

Hey Rager, nice to hear from you too. I don't have any pics, but you do need to boost a guitar signal before it will properly trigger the mb when the gate is set to Audio. Optionally, you can set the gate to hold and you should be able to hear the bass going through the filter, but the envelope won't affect the filter unfortunately. You'll still want to boost it to a certain degree. I've used distortion pedals, some work on their own and with others I ran a clean boost after it and before the mb. Now that I'm using the mixer, I crank the preamp and adjust the main as necessary. It works a lot better. I can even play the bass clean into the mixer and use the mb for distortion. It does this very well. That thing is like an ultra-super-filter-mod-distortion box. It would also make one hell of a wah if you hook up an expression pedal. Anyway, sometimes the envelope is kinda weird on a string instrument, esp if you have it set to Fast. Like when the instrument is still ringing out but the envelope time ends and it briefly cuts out then restarts. I haven't found a way to get rid of that, but just set it to Slow if you want long ringing notes and it's not an issue.

To get multiple things going without using midi... well there's a few ways to do that. The audio in on a synth is really a great tool. With my casio running into the mb, it can potentially be three things going at once: drum machine, mb, and cheesy casio keys. The mb has a 3 way gate switch on the back which determines what is triggering the oscillator. KBD is when you want to just play the keys, you will only hear the audio in when you're playing a note. Hold will make the osc drone endlessly and audio in is wide open. Audio is when you want the audio in to trigger the osc and also go through the filter envelope.

So if I want a snare hit to trigger the synth, I run the snare mic into my mixer, boost the signal, set the gate on the mb to Audio, make sure the audio in is up on the minibrutes mixer section, also turn up whatever oscillator waveforms or noise that I want to use, and that's it. Now when I hit the snare I will hear the snare hit (from audio in) and also the synth sound I dialed in. They will both be going through the filter and envelopes. You can mix as desired of course, even turn the audio in down and only hear the synth. You can use this setup for any audio in source.

To jam along with a drum machine and a simple drone, Set the mb gate switch to hold, plug in drum machine, mix audio and oscillator as desired, pick a note to drone on, then pick up a guitar or bass, plug it into a different amp and away you go. It's not even that hard to play the keys and guitar at the same time, or mix on the fly with the mb. If you had a loop pedal, you've got a decent little one man show.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 12, 2013, 02:01:10 AM
awesome. idk if this will help, but an ADSR envelope has the sustain. from the very beginning arp odyssey days, I almost always jacked up the sustain so my notes would hold their state for a long time vs filtering out after so long every time. you can actually set up the sustain/decay to drop the level to where it unmasks a lower volume LFO effect like a filter or w/e. like how a singer maybe hits the note strong, then drops(decays) into a slightly mellower vibrato for the long sustain. sharp attack, fairly fast, but smooth decay into the lower level sustain with the LFO effect, then 0 release when singer stops

turn off the decay too if you want so whatever state it is in when the attack finishes it will stay up there.
nasty synth lead stuff is full on 0 attack, 0 decay, full sustain, generally zero release too..like an organ: instant on, constant full volume, instant off.

crap like a guitar sounding dynamic is where the envelope really helps..banjo, harpsichord, pizzicatto strings..all those short duration sort of "plucked" sounding things use the decay and the sustain turned down since the note is meant to die shortly after the pluck.
after sustain times out to silence, the release is cancelled out since there is nothing left to release.
a bit of release makes a reverb-ish effect at the end, PROVIDED there is something left to release from heh.

it seems that I could get things to sort of confuse the machine setting sustains to zero and releases to infinity somewhere along the way. that is obviously an unnecessary and useless setting and I cant remember which machine.

also a repeating effect is usually a LFO influence vs the envelope. the envelope is reset on a keypress, so it should NOT "re-ADSR" itself during the same keypress.
all kinds of shit is assignable to LFO's.  also any feedback loop could sound like re-envelope by repeating something.

however, if each audio input that exceeds the gate level resets the adsr, you are feeling the disadvantage of a single oscillator setup vs a polyphonic which sucks up a bunch of notes before the first played get replaced by the most recently played. I have to play with one to see what the envelopes feel like.

I need to play with meeeelleeeons of them

I REALLY want the audio input shit now. thanks a ton haha
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on December 12, 2013, 07:41:02 PM
yeah, once you try one you'll see. It's just a symptom of this particular synth. The minibrutes ADSR envelopes have the switch for slow or fast and it's bizarre. That switch affects each slider in the envelope and both fast and slow have their limitations. It's kind of a pain in the ass. If I max out the ATTACK on fast setting but still want a little slower attack, I am forced to switch it to slow and start all over in trying to achieve the actual desired attack. And it's not like slow starts off where fast ended, if you get what I"m saying...They should have just combined the two like most synths I've known. Notice that this feature is not on the new microbrute. It has fast only. 

Thanks for the tips btw
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 13, 2013, 04:31:20 PM
I'll try putting a boost pedal in front the next time I run a guitar or something through it but that's not how I use mine mainly.  I have it running through reverb, overdrive, phase, delay, and ring mod pedals.  Fucking love it.  Overdriven glitchy apreggios midi sync'd with some drum beats on the Electribe and leads with the Novation along with knob twirling via LFO and cutoff is hours of fun.

Speaking of the Novation SuperNova.  No wonder they call it a super synth.  This thing is super badass.  Spent quite a lot of time with it yesterday.  I found it's problems.  When it gets heated up, the parameters on a couple things start to drift.  This isn't a huge deal to me because I like glitchy serendipitous things like that.  I might still look into getting it fixed.  Just sent an email off to a tech to see what he thinks.  Way worth the $100 I paid for it.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 14, 2013, 07:50:18 PM
the novation ultranova is based on that supernova, except it is several generations newer and costs $450 new. has input and vocoder too. need to play with one of those too.

I am truly loving life now that all these mfrs are putting this shit into the cheap range. mostly eliminating expensive hardware it seems.  the brains go onto a 2 dollar DAC or something. I just wish dave smith would put that prophet 12 out in some uber cheap form.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on December 15, 2013, 04:21:38 AM
Quote from: RAGER on December 13, 2013, 04:31:20 PM
I'll try putting a boost pedal in front the next time I run a guitar or something through it-

about that RAGER; if you want to 'filter section' another source through a synth i HIGHLY suggest trying to get your hands on a moog sub phatty. the 'multidrive' is amazing, and when used with the filter section, just stellar.
not just distorted saturation, but warm volume and compression like nothing else out there i've used beside old analog rack stuff in studios years ago.
haven't recorded samples of other input sources i can share through mine yet, but when i have time i will.
take your ipod to guitar center and rock one bro- it's so fantastic.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 21, 2013, 07:10:07 PM
I just ordered one of these in kit form from Framce. <(Botch reference)  Can't wait to spend some quality time with my soldering iron.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/shruthi_zpsde9067b3.jpeg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/shruthi_zpsde9067b3.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on December 21, 2013, 09:30:51 PM
Quote from: RAGER on December 21, 2013, 07:10:07 PM
I just ordered one of these in kit form from Framce. <(Botch reference)  Can't wait to spend some quality time with my soldering iron.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/shruthi_zpsde9067b3.jpeg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/shruthi_zpsde9067b3.jpeg.html)


dude, i've seen these and have been lusting for one but i'm no builder... lemme know how hard it is.
and enjoy!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 21, 2013, 10:35:04 PM
Prolly not hard for me at least.  I've got quite a bit of time on a soldering iron but I'll let you know.  They say there's about 200 components to solder.  Lots of resistors and multi pin dac's or whatever.  The destructions are usually pretty good.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on December 21, 2013, 10:48:08 PM
maybe if it's not too bad and i pay ya'... make me one?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 21, 2013, 10:55:34 PM
That's a possibility.  There's one on CL here for $350.

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/4228750069.html
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on December 22, 2013, 02:24:38 AM
*BRAIN EXPLODES*
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 22, 2013, 10:22:17 AM
Pretty sure you can buy one already built from the mfr but if you want a fellow jamroomer to build you one I could do that.  just need to figure oot the logistics.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 22, 2013, 05:03:43 PM
that looks fun.
here is some fun tips from being an electronics mfr employee for many years:
bend resistor, etc leads with needlenoses to make consistent even bends. if you really want to be pro, you will make jig for like that set of similar resistors all in a row. then every component lead is bent in parallel and it just looks sexy. people like jake don't understand those little details that maintain the lines and feng shui. but people sense that on a subconscious level

solder first, trim later, JUST IN CASE you need to move something. trim after the thing works.

you can be super pro by washing the rosin crap off. watch putting heat up the legs of a many pin chip. those components inside are microns thin and a heat dose from holding the iron too long can kill it.  I would hope they have many pin sockets. then you solder the socket to the board, or maybe even the board has all SMD sockets and was wave soldered. the labor disparity is off the charts between wave soldering SMD's and hand soldering regular sized components, especialy fucking centipede components.

watch caps for polarity. some are polarized and some are not.  orient the polarized ones correctly. some of those little ones are printed for shit and you really have to make sure of what you have.

having some copper de-solder braid or a solder sucker is a really good idea. the odds of nailing everything perfectly is slim, and you might need to pull a component or clean up a massive solder blob. those tools make it doable. still kind of messy, but you get the solder off and the component out without pulling any donuts or traces off the board.

use lead tin solder. that antimony stuff sucks ass. it barely flows the first time, and then forget it if you have to reflow. it looks all crystally like a cold solder joint almost immediately. that shit is better for automated production where the parameters can be tweaked to get nice solders consistently on the first quick shot.
just use lead and do not let anyone talk you into antimony regardless of how much they cry the lead is bad eco song. fuck them. you have a project to do, and you do not need any further constraints on the soldering game.

that being said, have fun, and test when they tell you to test.

I like ttl level projects too. way safer and more forgiving if you mess up a little.   tube DC is a different animal needing a whole different set of "play" rules.

edit: the board looks like the holes are positioned to look neat just feeding the resistor leads through. and all the dips do look like they pop into sockets, so you shouldn't have any high risk soldering from what I see.   hi risk is when it involves semiconductors mostly. Si dies at I think 450-475, and that is way easy to hit with the iron.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 31, 2013, 04:28:24 PM
My Shruthi came in the mail today I guess.  Can't wait to get home and check it out.  Hopefully build it on my next day off.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on December 31, 2013, 08:19:02 PM
nice. noise machine
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 01, 2014, 04:29:13 AM
rager, I cant wait to hear a full on concert out of your mad scientist lab

frankensteinway booyah

ps, I wish moog would wise up and drop their prices. fuckers.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 01, 2014, 09:19:45 AM
Ha!  My major shortfall in that scenario is that I've always been more of a player than an engineer.  When I get frustrated and confused with the recording side I just bag it and play.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 10, 2014, 12:59:52 PM
So I finished the build of my Shruthi mono-synth.  Lot's of soldering.  Everything is ok on the filter board but I donlt get a correct read out on the lcd.  so now it's research time to figure out where I went wrong.  hopefully I didn;t lift a trace.  They have a pretty good support system on the forums.  Lot's of users there to build your unit for you.  Frustrating.  it works and makes sounds and stuff but nothing but blocks of green on the lcd readout.  No characters.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on January 10, 2014, 11:25:51 PM
Quote from: RAGER on January 10, 2014, 12:59:52 PM
So I finished the build of my Shruthi mono-synth.  Lot's of soldering.  Everything is ok on the filter board but I donlt get a correct read out on the lcd.  so now it's research time to figure out where I went wrong.  hopefully I didn;t lift a trace.  They have a pretty good support system on the forums.  Lot's of users there to build your unit for you.  Frustrating.  it works and makes sounds and stuff but nothing but blocks of green on the lcd readout.  No characters.
where the hell do you find the time..
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 11, 2014, 12:11:35 AM
I was home sick from work. Rather than sit in bed I grabbed a soldering iron and went to work. I wanted it done by my days off so i could jam.  I also made a rad dinner last night of seared mahi mahi and a lentil veg hash.  ;D
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on January 11, 2014, 12:14:38 AM
what the frequency that you are in the grocery store. im thinking youre shopping daily.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 11, 2014, 12:25:00 AM
The checker ladies know me and ask me what I'm making all the time. Yesterday I bought just a cheap multimeter. My good one busted  needed one in a hurry.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 11, 2014, 11:53:23 PM
So on top of having to go through the control board for my Shruthi tomorrow to see what I did wrong, the problems with my Supernova have really manifested themselves with being heated up and played for hours.  About unusable until I get it fixed.  So in the interim I'm looking into buying a Korg MS2000r.  Hopefully tomorrow.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 12, 2014, 12:19:27 AM
This Little clip about sums up my mood. 

Minibrute and Alesis Micron.  Lots of gain and delay and amped up lfo sluper slow arpeggio.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 13, 2014, 12:54:42 AM
here is all korg x50, except that one guitar bend up thing that periodically appears.
straight up mort garson "black mass" worship



[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/doktordeath/fearofthetrance[/soundcloud]

if you are still stuck on your kit synth and want a hand on tech'ing your board pm me, or heck, maybe post so everyone can live and learn your experience

edits: wtf?  i'm an idiot. it's a soundcloud haha. I had youtube tags..derrr to the 3rd power
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 13, 2014, 12:32:56 PM
Re post that youtube link man.  I'm curious. 

Didn't get a chance to look into my shruthi.  Gonna walk away from it for a few.  Come back to it with fresh eyes.  However I did make contact with a synth tech and will be dropping off my supernova on Saturday.  No shit, he works on Geddy's stuff.  So I feel confident he can fix it.  If not, it's probably not repairable.  Haven't heard back from the guy on the ms2000r.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 14, 2014, 10:07:11 AM
^ ^ ok fixed :)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 16, 2014, 03:23:32 AM
I was looking through more synth demos and I started noticing how everyone has different preferences of synth types.

I seem to go more for the big pad crazy ambient ones.

so in my list of what I would snag at a moment's notice would be
waldorf blofeld like $500
mininova $500-$600
korg volca keys and bass sequencer $300 total

and my holy grail synth, the dave smith prophet 12, which is way out of line pricewise ($3200 or so) just came out in module form for like $2000. that was a brutally cruel thing to do to me.

but first a QSC 500w/ch amp for $325 offa craigslist, so I can sub-harmonically destroy all that lies before me with my army of synths and old school kicker subs.

edit: btw, the micro-brute is a beast. they have some really slick tricks built into that lil fucker.
edit #2: the casio WS P1 and G1 are the sleeper synths of the century.  way too much features for $500(P1) or $600(G1) holy shit.   just...holy shit.

edit 3: those QSC amps are $399 new..so no, i'm not driving around for an hour to buy a used one for $325..ok, that's settled. maybe I offer him $300 to bring it out to me.
how's that for shithead negotiating? or maybe within bounds considering the  brandnew in box with some semblance of warranty price...heh.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: giantchris on January 16, 2014, 08:54:47 AM
Quote from: jibberish on January 16, 2014, 03:23:32 AM
I was looking through more synth demos and I started noticing how everyone has different preferences of synth types.

I seem to go more for the big pad crazy ambient ones.

so in my list of what I would snag at a moment's notice would be
waldorf blofeld like $500
mininova $500-$600
korg volca keys and bass sequencer $300 total

and my holy grail synth, the dave smith prophet 12, which is way out of line pricewise ($3200 or so) just came out in module form for like $2000. that was a brutally cruel thing to do to me.

but first a QSC 500w/ch amp for $325 offa craigslist, so I can sub-harmonically destroy all that lies before me with my army of synths and old school kicker subs.

edit: btw, the micro-brute is a beast. they have some really slick tricks built into that lil fucker.
edit #2: the casio WS P1 and G1 are the sleeper synths of the century.  way too much features for $500(P1) or $600(G1) holy shit.   just...holy shit.

edit 3: those QSC amps are $399 new..so no, i'm not driving around for an hour to buy a used one for $325..ok, that's settled. maybe I offer him $300 to bring it out to me.
how's that for shithead negotiating? or maybe within bounds considering the  brandnew in box with some semblance of warranty price...heh.

I just want to throw it out there I'd get the Volca Keys regardless of what you end up buying, for $150 the value is totally worth it.  Mine finally showed up on Tuesday and I've been playing it a ton its really great fun but I just want to mention the Volcas do not come with a power supply and the keys are extremely small you will most likely have to hook up a MIDI controller to consistently play it well.  The onboard speaker sounds mediocre but it sounds GIGANTIC through headphones I am willing to bet it sounds even better through a full rig.  All in all it's totally worth the money but I would say you can get fantastic bass sounds out of it as well I know the filters on the Volca Bass are a little different but it seems somewhat redundant to have because the keys sound so nice for bass.  Obviously the Mininova and Blofeld are a big step up but I'd consider getting the keys at some point anyways because its such a great deal.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 17, 2014, 09:30:28 PM
thanks for that info, especially about the no power supply. i'm stoked to get one for sure.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: giantchris on January 20, 2014, 09:29:54 AM
Quote from: jibberish on January 17, 2014, 09:30:28 PM
thanks for that info, especially about the no power supply. i'm stoked to get one for sure.
NP.  The no power supply is pretty annoying it does come with 6aa batteries though they are still working several hours in which is nice but still they should clearly state that it comes with no power supply.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 14, 2014, 08:01:55 PM
Still waiting on getting back my Novation from the tech.  Thinking I might pick up a Microbrute the run with my Minibrute.  They seem to play nice together with the arpeggiator and sequencer.

Still having gone through the soldering again on my Shruthi  :P
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 19, 2014, 05:42:57 PM
I knew I was going to have some alone time at work today so I brought my Shruthi and some tools.  Re=flowed a bunch of suspect solder joints and all is well except that the enclosure doesn't quite fir so I'll need to look into that or not.  Right now I've got it cobbled together with all but the top cover and some rubber bands.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_17101_zpsecffe289.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_17101_zpsecffe289.jpg.html)

Should have my Novation back this weekend.  Been missing it
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on February 20, 2014, 05:51:36 AM
when I went to GC for the mixer, I spent about 1/2 hour with a mini brute.  very nice. I ended up getting stuck with some LFO repeating sound that I couldn't stop tho, at the end.

I had the envelopes down, all waveforms down, arp off all shut down as best I could see, yet it kept sustaining some pulsing sound tied to LFO rate, but I couldn't get rid of it haha.

so YEAH I got lost in a mini brute.  love it.   but before that I was getting some gnarly combos of repeating and filter sweeping all at once. very impressive synth.


then I played with that original mini korg with the vocorder.... I did not like that keyboard at all.  even the vocorder was not all that slick.

there were no korg volca series, which I really want to audition
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 20, 2014, 09:31:02 AM
There are some very cool sounds in the microkorg but its the least used in my setup. I actually haven't turned mine on in about a month.  It might be on its way out. I don't like the mini keys for playability. When I get the microbrute I won't actually be playing it so much as using its functions through the minibrute which is a badass synth on its own.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on February 20, 2014, 12:14:32 PM
Quote from: RAGER on February 20, 2014, 09:31:02 AM
There are some very cool sounds in the microkorg but its the least used in my setup. I actually haven't turned mine on in about a month.  It might be on its way out. I don't like the mini keys for playability. When I get the microbrute I won't actually be playing it so much as using its functions through the minibrute which is a badass synth on its own.

I can relate. I mean I told myself that I can MIDI my way around the mini keys, which really are cheap feeling, like scary heh, but never a deal-breaker. I just didn't find anything really cool on that guy that would sway me off the mini nova.
I have been narrowing down the field. the waldorf blofeld is mostly a patch synth. beautiful sounds , but sort of redundant.
I would get a second korg x-50 for patch sounds OR the sleeper patch synth of all time Yamaha psx49(something like that heh).  just a patch synth loaded with all motif patches for $499.

so the field is down to the mininova, those brutes<-seriously pro sounding: rich , no aliasing or noise residuals. and a dave smith tetra plus the korg volcas
even a couple patches on the x-50 are shit and that is the sound set from some nicer keyboard, so it is no small feat to keep all that craziness clean sounding
and the gaia I played with really sounded low end for a roland product. so versatile, yet so crummy sounding. too bad. so gaia is out, but that synth is layed out about the coolest of any I have toyed with. too bad they didn't do that guy in the like $1000 price point to buy for $850 or w/e and put some cash in to the circuitry to clean it up a little more. then I would be hot for that synth too. it can make every, and I mean every, old famous synth sound ever used. crazy.

edit btw: when I tried out the vocorder on that little korg in the GC showroom, I did the do-re-me beer song. haha. it was pretty funny sounding. I started laughing too much and fucked it all up. what's funny is you dont have to sing. the keyboard does the notes, but I couldn't stop myself from singing the notes too haha. that did not help, so silly.
I will have some crazy fun with a vocorder when I finally end up with one.

edit2: I am looking forward to testing out that mambo crown amp with some synth bass.   "i'm from a small town and I ain't never owned nothing with that kind of horsepower"

THEN, after watching john lord interviews(RIP just when I needed him most) he explained his awesome sound from his Hammond.  actually quite simple. he ran the pre outputs straight into a marshall combo amp.  and there was his patented wicked overdrive sound. so this should be pretty easy to feed a synth into one of these little tube amps and mimic his sound.  got some cool things to try out with the keyboards
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 20, 2014, 12:32:41 PM
Web based modular!  Whoa!  great introductory for learning what you want in a modular setup.  Shit's really slow on my laptop.  It's about time for a new one with more RAM.

http://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/synth
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on February 20, 2014, 12:51:33 PM
Quote from: RAGER on February 20, 2014, 12:32:41 PM
Web based modular!  Whoa!  great introductory for learning what you want in a modular setup.  Shit's really slow on my laptop.  It's about time for a new one with more RAM.

http://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/synth

are you getting ready to spring for a Pittsburgh modular rig? haha.  ok, if some Dubai sheik comes in and buys a whole fucking caravan of top shelf winny-baygos.
cool more info. info is good. heh.

edit: oh boy. i'm going to waste some time there. curse you haha
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 20, 2014, 01:11:38 PM
I would love for some dude in a turban to pull in and point at this 200K diesel pusher and say "I'll take three".  But yes eventually I will get into soem modular stuff.  I do need a bigger sub/line mixer.  Any recommendations of what to look for.  I want used if at all possible but whatever your input is appreciated. 

I wish my laptop was faster.  That site would be funner to me.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 20, 2014, 01:13:02 PM
Oh and the lady is gonna go have dinner with some friends so I'm gonna sneak over to Control Voltage after work and pick up a Microbute and feign I've had it for a while. 8)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 20, 2014, 01:17:16 PM
Here watch this video about the mini and micro together and see if that doesn't put a bug up yer arse.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on February 20, 2014, 01:25:14 PM
I know I should not watch this, but I have to.

edit: almost forgot. I specifically have been watching for a 4-buss mixer for cheap. you can find 2 buss mixers all day, but I want to have my "circle of death" quad surround mix some day and I have to go all 4-buss to do that. wait until the crazy ass synth sounds get to spinning around your head while listening to take it to the next level. so I want this to start figuring it all out.
IDK WTF went on, but the north Olmsted guitar center got 5-6 Mackie vlz 1604 mixers in used. at first I was going to bust them for padding their used gear page, but no, there were 6 of them.  $300 is steep for a 16ch 2 buss, but not a 4 buss, they had a 24ch for like $699. I would like that, but I think 16ch will hold some synth modules and other normal stuff for now. Mackie is good shit.




btw, I see why that guy in the video was freaking out. he needed about 6 hours to keep exploring. that microbrute patch bay with all the control outs is sick squared and really opens some doors.  yeah , that is some power right there.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on February 20, 2014, 02:23:09 PM
hey rager, if you had a MIDI splitter/buffer, you could run MIDI from the minibrute to several modules(daisy chaining goes to shit after maybe 2 modules because MIDI is slow although, intentional delay may be uselful via MIDI lag heh)). then run all th emodule outputs in to a little mixer. then run that whole mixed mess back into the minibrute like th guy on the demo was doing. that's what ima gonna do when I get those haha. run the whole orchestra through brute filters, including vocals.

edit: what if you played the news into th epitch control of the minibrute heh some dude talking making the pitch of a note move around.  that dude is lucky I wasn't there playing the brutes with him. 6hr video for sure.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on February 20, 2014, 02:36:48 PM
you know what. if you knew the I/O specs of those various functions of the brutes, you could build little op-amp controllers dirt cheap.

when I first learned what an op amp was in one of my classes, I freaked out. here was an entire amplifier in a can. you just externally controlled it and put the I/O and power to it, done.  making waveform generators is stupid simple, and with a tight variable gain, you can control output voltage quite precisely.
simple V control is a voltage divider like on the base of any stomp box transistor is using a voltage divider to set the bias voltage.  you can do this with 2 pots and a battery, or a pot, resistor combo if you want to ensure you don't short your battery due to one fixed resistance.

you literally could make a rack of voltage controllers to feed all those things from outside. LFO is easy, especially the standard sin/saw/square wave shapes.
THEN you put non-linear stuff like diodes in the op amp feedback circuits and the small sigal responses go all over depending upon how you placed your diodes.
I have a whole book of that shit. op amps are truly the way to be an electrical engineer without being an electrical engineer.

huge jump into modular thinking too now that I think about it.

edit: wondering if those microbrute patch jumpres are single conductor or 2 conductor. if they are 1 conductor, the ground has to be passed around somehow to make a complete circuit. if they are 2 conductor, it is like a guitar, any guitar can plug in to any amp since they are all complete self contained circuits via 2 conductor connection
if those brute jumpres are single conductor, there HAS to be a ground between the mini and the micro.  the only thing I can see is the ground on the MIDI cable. the MIDI is old OLD school serial port level shit so it has dedicated ground line.  i'm thinking the demo dude may have sidestepped a huge pitfall and not even known it.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 21, 2014, 12:37:41 PM
I'll post this here too just in case.  Got it last night.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_17221_zps4a43659c.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_17221_zps4a43659c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on February 21, 2014, 01:46:25 PM
so tell me please, are those little patch bay jumpers single conductor or 2-conductor? details in post above.  I wonder if arturia has some dedicated attention paid to grounding issues between modules, or that mini-micro guy was taking it somewhere new.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 21, 2014, 04:38:27 PM
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_17241_zpsb2325fe1.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_17241_zpsb2325fe1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on February 21, 2014, 04:53:02 PM
excellent. 2 conductor. shouldn't be any problems then if that is the only line going to the other brute and no midi or anything else
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 26, 2014, 02:21:34 PM
I really didn't need to see this.

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/4351114622.html
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on February 26, 2014, 04:15:32 PM
you know chief, I think I would pass on that guy.  way too vintage and not cool enough. those had the oscillators that drifted when they warmed up and other old school compromises.  plus the standard old electronics problems: pots get noisy, caps dry out...I wouldn't get it. it will probably also fail soon.

like that mountain of 1980 receivers in that other thread imo: for collectors.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 26, 2014, 04:24:35 PM
You're probably right.  meh.  It's just my nature to jump on that shit.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on February 26, 2014, 04:41:42 PM
I was thinking about the brutes.

are you familiar with that No Doubt song "Hella Good"? that has some of my favorite synth sounds and those strangled filter low notes(the wave is just buzzy pulses) right at the very end sounds like a brute sound.
here i'll link it. it is a fun video and really hard to not get distracted heh,  try to follow the synth sounds.



the synths on ray of light. an older Madonna album are amazing. she didn't fuck around getting her synth players. they are good. this is sort of mellower and trippier than most Madonna. I think it was up for a grammy even. the first 3 songs actually have the coolest synth.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: moose23 on February 28, 2014, 08:19:01 AM
William Orbit is the guy behind Ray Of Light, he's pretty well known electronic composer/producer in his own right.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 14, 2014, 01:15:00 PM
Picked up a Korg MonoTribe of CL yesterday.  It has a midi I/O mod and Boss style power jack added.  I'm also going to add some switches for muting drum and synth parts.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_17951_zps4ba6359a.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_17951_zps4ba6359a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on March 14, 2014, 11:10:18 PM
you have a pretty serious dub-step rig with all that sequencing power now.

you HAVE to get it all going apeshit at once. you just have to.


edit:definitely going to see what else that William orbit dude has done. I like his style.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on March 15, 2014, 12:58:39 AM
THE NEW MINIBRUTE HAS A BRUSHED ALUMINUM FINISH, WOOD SIDES, AND A SEQUENCER. FUCK ME WITH A HAND BLENDER.

http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/MiniBruteSE/intro.html (http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/MiniBruteSE/intro.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on March 15, 2014, 04:59:11 AM
HAWT!.. look at the sequencer specs.

but only once or you may have to clean your keyboard






I just said fuck it and threw mine away, fwiw.
heh


hey! maybe we get to see truly why rager is named rager in 4.... 3.... 2.....
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 15, 2014, 09:57:37 AM
What did you throw away? 
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: MichaelZodiac on March 15, 2014, 04:56:48 PM
Thanks for adding to this to the top of my GAS list.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 15, 2014, 05:41:50 PM
What are you gassing for mike?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: MichaelZodiac on March 15, 2014, 05:47:08 PM
The Minibrute SE, only then I watched a video presentation for it and they're limited to 300? derp.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on March 15, 2014, 09:38:10 PM
have you seen that Roland aira series? pretty awesome looking stuff. I want that vt-3
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on March 16, 2014, 12:25:54 AM
Quote from: MichaelZodiac on March 15, 2014, 05:47:08 PM
The Minibrute SE, only then I watched a video presentation for it and they're limited to 300? derp.

in stock now at sweetwater-
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MiniBruteSE (http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MiniBruteSE)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 16, 2014, 01:26:46 AM
I've got enough stuff to keep me confused for a while.  Doesn't mean I'm not gassin for this Tele I got my eye on and some Doepfer stuff though.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on March 16, 2014, 09:47:03 PM
ahhh roland is finally making noise. thx for the tip.
I have huge respect for roland. they have had some of the best synths all along.
I was puzzled by the Gaia. if it sounded cleaner like a minibrute, but could still do all the gaia stuff(which is actually fucking awesome, lumpy has access to disco's I think) it would be stellar.  

tip: listen to more synth demos.

ok I will!

edit
ya, started watching a roland system-1 demo and the first thing the dude mentioned was the 96khz hi def sound and filters. evidently I am not the only one who felt the gaia wasn't that good sounding. this new roland sounds beautiful and the dude went right after the filters and LFO's to test the fidelity. from what little I heard, it sounds really smooth.

so , ya, let's just all explode our brains and be done with it.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on March 16, 2014, 10:23:57 PM


this dude sold this to anyone who makes the mistake of watching this video haha. I was laughing my ass off. it's the new vocal processor vt-3 from that aira series. the dude rules. the module rules.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 17, 2014, 10:19:18 AM
I think I see a system 1 and vt3 in my future. Not entirely sold on the drum machine yet. I really want a full analog one.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on March 17, 2014, 01:22:05 PM

the microbrute still looks like the killer accessory synth of ever. I absolutely want it to send the korg audio through while I am tweaking arpeggiator settings on the korg.
I cant tweak filter settings at same time, but I can if it is going through the brute, so that is a done deal.

I would have the microbrute, except I am pushing to finish this music room project that has been on-going for w/e 15 months now.   I am about to burn another mini synth worth of cash in home depot here shortly on lights and wire and hardware/stain etc.

I do need to hear these new clean rolands in person. I hate crap in the circuitry. working with hi end stereo for all those years fucked me up in that regards. now I key on it from habit , which sometimes sucks.

that vt-3 is like nothing I have , or have ever had to play with. haha. everyone should get one of those for their next birthday all across the world.
how could anyone NOT be laughing their ass off within 5 minutes of firing that goober up?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on March 17, 2014, 04:52:50 PM
I needthat vt3 to do freaky voices in my band. I can play several different characters with that toy... I will have one
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 20, 2014, 01:57:02 PM
Been searching the web about the Aira stuff.  It's funny that the Brits are intent on pronouncing it Eye-ra when it seems quite clear it's a play on words to be pronounced as Era.  Either way the opinions swing way one ways and clear the other.  Either hate or adoration.  I'm still unsure if I need the bass or the drums.  I will however have the Vt-3 and the System-1 as I feel right now.  Unfortunately my local synth store is not a Roland dealer so I'll have to either play one first at guitard center and buy it there or try one out there and order one from a mom and pop place somewhere.  but I don't like ordering large sensitive electronic equipment to be thrown around by a Fedex or oops driver while en route to be left on my front doorstep.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on March 20, 2014, 11:43:13 PM
Yeah, I've noticed that too, about the pronunciation. I'm in full agreement that it's ERA.

My initial impulse is to get an analog drum module too, but I think that aira model might be cool for live performance. Like you said, gotta get your hands on it to know for sure. They look so fucking cool! I want them all just to look at them and fuck around with. In a pretty foam lined case....just like in some of the demo videos  ;D
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 24, 2014, 01:47:02 PM
Nobody has the damn AIRA stuff in stock around here yet.  Not even the VT-3.  Beings it's only a couple hundo I might just order one but I have to play the other stuff first.  i thought I wanted a Novation bass station II until I played one.  Meh

Check out the modded case on this MicroKorg.  Think MicroMoorg.  I'd love to do this and add a full size keyboard er... i mean at least full size keys.  maybe only a 25 or 32.  Anyways check it, it's super cool

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on March 24, 2014, 08:25:53 PM
I just don't like that little korg. the mod is neat. I already have the korg soundset, and that vocoder is lame compared to Yamaha or that new vc-3.

it boils down to the mininova for me to get the novation sounds and that wicked ez2use arpeggiator

try ordering vc-3 from sweetwater maybe
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on March 24, 2014, 08:56:12 PM
Rehousing stuff is almost always cool. I've got a friend who spliced a microkorg to an organ foot pedal key-set. All via CV. Pretty rad. He also built a drum kit into a suitcase. I need pics of that stuff.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 25, 2014, 07:27:00 PM
That would be cool if you got some pics.  Found another stupid little bass synth module I want.  Shit at $130 you can't go wrong.  my shruthi has been playing nice with my Mini/Microbutes and my monotribe.

Meeblip Anode

http://meeblip.com/
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 30, 2014, 01:24:50 PM
Got a meeblip anode earmarked for me when they come. Gonna go check out the Arturia key lab controllers today. Using my micron to control the supernova right now but I want to be able to use the micron on its own as it is a pretty bad ass little unit in itself.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on March 30, 2014, 02:02:12 PM
microbrute $288 at B&H, may pull the trigger

edit: rager, take another look at the korg volca bass. I like the synchronizing oscillators. seems like a good slave module too. also moog has that one little bass module down to like $650

personally, I think moog is watching it gets its ass kicked by this flood of synths that are plenty comparable at a fraction of the price.
sweetwater has deals and bonus shit to go with almost every pricey moog they stock.  today, $2500, you could get so many synth modules that do so much..or one nice little moog that cant touch that other pile of stuff.

dave smith gets it. he is a premium synth brand. yet he has a slew of nice price wicked modules. fun to watch this whole corner of industry roll.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Submarine on March 31, 2014, 09:45:23 AM
The Godfather of low end.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 31, 2014, 11:01:59 AM
I sold my non working set of Taurus 1's about 5 years ago for a thousand.

And yes jib, the Minotaur I think is going for about 5 Hundo. There's one locally on cl for 400 that I'm eyeballing but I just preordered that meeblip. So ill see what that does first.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 03, 2014, 05:52:45 PM
One of these just became available at my buddy's shop.  If it's there in a couple days I'm gonna put some money down on it.  I can't stop.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/SE-1_zps37ea1c71.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/SE-1_zps37ea1c71.jpg.html)

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 03, 2014, 07:15:45 PM
Ok I have it on hold for me.  Squeeeeel!!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 05, 2014, 05:43:46 PM
I went down and played the SE-1 synth today.  Absolutely loved it.  Super fat low end.  Gonna pick it up in the next couple weeks prolly.  Can't take money out of savings and ain't gonna put it on a card.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on April 06, 2014, 07:36:44 AM
heh, you're killing me rager, but I do like you do: bills/savings/toys. separate things that don't cross lines.
it actually is more fun having to allocate precious few play bucks when they come through, like a strategy game, but a few more wont spoil me.
I'm feeling the end of the tunnel coming on the music room. under a thou to get it marginally finished with the last of the key soundgear.
one low impedance amp is all that is needed until I build the subs[next winter project] and oddball shit like effects and couple different type mic stands.

then the microbrute is first thing for sure, and afterwards, off to the races....

does your pal have a prophet 8 or 12 you can play with and tell me how mind blowing it really is or not? I only have seen videos and am still very looking forward to playing with one, even a tetra module.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 20, 2014, 01:35:06 AM
Discovered the early Yamaha CS series.  There's a CS-5 on CL right now but I been looking at vids of all of 'em.  pretty cool and semi affordable.  Between the SE-1, the Novation and all my other shit I can do anything those can do but still they are pretty cool.  might have to put one on the list of synths to get.

Here's a couple vids.





And of course from Bade Runner, the CS-80



Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on April 20, 2014, 02:36:57 AM
The problem with the cs5 is that yamaha made a 2 stroke Street bike in 72 with the same model designation. I own one and would also like to own the synth. I've got a vst plug in of one and it's not particularly impressive though. If I found one on the cheap I might get it but I really yearn for an analog polysynth much more than ano ther monophonic
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 20, 2014, 02:45:13 AM
You yearn to play chords.  That's why I have the Super Nova, for those big lush pads.  bu tI would ove to have a Mono/Poly or Polysix.  Nearly traded my 2000s for a Polysix.  I'm still not sure how I feel about that.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on April 20, 2014, 05:26:51 AM
korg is re-issuing th eARP Odyssey. I saved up like $950 when I was a busrat in highschool to buy one of those new.  I never should have sold it, but maybe I will be glad I did.  that thing did the Frankenstein thing in th emiddle. classic ARP sound. the ARP 2600 would be the killer to recreate. that's the one the Who had for all their shit.
(http://i2.wp.com/www.synthtopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/arp-odyssey.jpg)

remember, much of that pure analog drifts in tuning. the new shit is digital locked, analog path. I am losing my desire for any vintage synths.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on April 20, 2014, 05:46:53 AM


here is a demo on an original. mine had a white face. it may have been 1st gen.  I did a rick wakeman solo in band on it. borrowed a pal's fender twin reverb to play it. that fucker was so heavy, but totally could overpower the whole orchestra and big room. we did that song at state at bowling green. most people never saw a synth, so Strongsville freaked everyone out. I was so fucking nervous, except then I wasn't because no one knew what my part was supposed to sound like

I still need to thank my old band director, uncle Kenny heh for doing that for me, but he realized a freak kid with a freak kid dream of music.
this synth blew the minimoog out of the water for sound effects.  I was horribly disappointed in the digital synths for sound effects. I have the original Yamaha DX-7 that was released in like 1980-81. digital. amazing in its own right, but not for sound effects.  this right here was king of effects.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on April 20, 2014, 05:54:24 PM
Speakingof poly synth, I have this boss vocal effect pedal that has harmony and looping features. It's actually really cool for beefing up my minibrute. I can do a one man show with that thing and a drum machine. It also has a decent digital delay that also works well with the mb. I imagine that one of those pogs has more power to make some interesting chords.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on April 20, 2014, 06:00:31 PM
I am leaning towards the less is more approach even though I would love to have a nice arsenal of cool synths. My needs are pretty minimal though and much like guitars, I really don't want to have a collection of stuff that I don't need or use much. That and I don't like to haul a bunch of gear around just to perform a 30 minute set.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 20, 2014, 10:50:14 PM
I hear ya. I pretty much have 2 guitars that I play and one bass. But when I get into something new I kinda go for it. I'm hoping to amass synth gear and then pare down to what suits me. Keep in mind that a mini and a micro can get you duophony and other cool shits.

Picked up a used controller today. A Fatara studio 610 61 key that controls 2 synths. It's pretty basic but I'll post a pic anyways. FYI , Fatara makes key beds for lots of synths including DSI. Kind of an odd one but that's me for ya.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on April 21, 2014, 12:10:40 AM
Coo. Y eah I've had a bunch of neat synths over the years and it does help to figure out what suits you. There are several ideas that I'd like to explore, like modules and one controller, or maybe two main synths and a couple of dedicated effects. I'll probably have to keep it really simple because I'm on a budget and want to use what gear I already have. That's why I was Stoked to realize what that vocal effect box could provide. With loops I can get quite a lot out of just one synth. I've been practicing creating sci-fi sounding backgrounds on the fly. Like I'll start with a bassy pulse then add some high end blips. Layer that with some heavily delayed midrange something or other then play something melodicewith the harmonizer kicked in. I'll try various stuff with that basic approach, trying to figure out what works best for live performance while determining where I might want to invest in new gear that offers me more possibilities.

Edit : gah! This SwiftKey app is handy but it makes me have to triple check my grammar so I don't type things like, coo.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on April 21, 2014, 04:23:40 PM
rager, if you can check out how many splits a controller keyboard has, you can assign a different MIDI channel to each section , then have 3 different synths set to receive 3 different MIDI channels. you can double up with layers too. some keyboards have sick split/layer options, and there are 16 MIDI channels so banzaii.
fatar is a huge OEM keyboard maker besides having their own line of controller keyboards.

I was looking at the volca series today. damn those are tiny heh, but they look slick.  gc has an ultranova. i'll play with that one day specifically. almost grabbed the microbrute, but fuck paying tax.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 21, 2014, 09:56:00 PM
It's the Fatar Studio 610.  2 midi outs that can handle 4 synths each (using the i/o of each synth I'm guessing to stack up and layer) and only a couple other buttons, mod and pitch wheel.  Yeah I mentioned that Fatar makes most keybeds.  That's why I jumped on this one.  Gotta learn up on dis shits.  Gotta wait another pay period to get the SE-1.  Don't hafta but I'm making myself have some self control for once.  Got enough to keep me confused already.  Anyways here she is.  Got her hooked up to my Shruthi I built and the Supernova.  Big monophonic bass root notes at the head of gigantic lush pads.  Imma finna blow shit up. 61 glorious keys

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_19531_zps1dd580bc.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_19531_zps1dd580bc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on April 22, 2014, 12:07:03 AM
Cool. 4 zones is great. If I  had modules I would probably go that route myself. Still need a sequencer or looper so you don't have to actually know how to play keyboard, haha. Or e lse you'll wish you had 4 hand. 
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 23, 2014, 07:43:11 PM
Synth corner currently.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_19651_zps732af14b.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_19651_zps732af14b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 28, 2014, 10:44:06 AM
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on April 29, 2014, 12:57:11 AM
Quote from: RAGER on April 23, 2014, 07:43:11 PM
Synth corner currently.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_19651_zps732af14b.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_19651_zps732af14b.jpg.html)

fantastic collection man, really killer. but can you stop grinding that cymbal and get a new one already!?!?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 01, 2014, 12:37:55 AM
Yep. I need a Sub 37.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on May 01, 2014, 04:31:47 AM
yeah, nice toybox. this actually has started me thinking on a master "synth rack"  to put such a collection as that, in one portable unit of some sort.

you are going to need a big mixer for all that audio input from all those synths.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 01, 2014, 12:32:53 PM
Not only that but I need a complete re-vamp of my sound system to achieve stereo and panning and the like.  Everything is mono currently.  sux.  I figure that will cost me at least a couple grand.  Busy season is upon me so I'll have a bit more extra dough to play with.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on May 02, 2014, 03:38:14 PM
oh boy. you will be feeling my pain.
that's what this whole music room thing has been about. really a stereo PA system if you get right down to it. then single things like a mic'd guitar amp or synth, get to express stereo effects and panning. this is also needed for recording anyway so a lot of stuff can do double duty, like the mixer, monitor/speaker amp. I am getting components of a certain level so I can yank them for actual PA applications in the future..more double duty..

the 8 simultaneous record tracks on the 24track will come in handy for recording a stack of synched synths.  I actually am thinking about scoring a "many-channel" fire-wire interface. that is a fast dedicated buss that can easily jam many tracks with no interrupts like usb has.

it sucks having to pre-mix a many voiced keyboard barrage while recording. you cant fix it if the mix is off.


in other news, the volca key sets are hitting CL. all 3 and power supply and cables $400.  nice start, but I can wait for them to go further down heh.
old Yamaha c-whatever on clevos cl, I forgot the model 
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 02, 2014, 03:46:52 PM
Is it the CS-01?  Cuz for me it might be just ok but I need more knobs.  CS-15 or more.  I need that Sub 37.

Yep gotta do some research on the stereo p.a.  Will Just piece it together as I find decent components.  Prolly start with speakers.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 03, 2014, 12:36:34 PM
Got rid of the Micro Korg yesterday.  The girl that got it was so hot I gave it to her for free.  But I sold her the synth for $200.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on May 03, 2014, 03:12:29 PM
Can't you just run the left and right outs to separate amps? You seem to have plenty of them.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 03, 2014, 04:32:16 PM
I think I understand what you're asking.  I would much rather use full range speakers for synth stuff than guitar speakers.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 03, 2014, 05:48:56 PM
Early morning coffee jam before work.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on May 03, 2014, 10:49:28 PM
Ah yes. Full range speakers could be nice . might not look as cool as a couple of sweet stacks tho!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on May 03, 2014, 11:49:38 PM
rager is on the right track.

way back I used to get into it with mr foxen regarding music REproduction vs music production.
my world was home stereo. the goal: reproduce whatever signal is put into it as accurately as possible adding no coloration from the gear.
y'all's world is : make crazy sounds with giant 12" midrange speakers tweaked to sound fuzzy and nasty.
a synth is a music creation device yes, BUT it has created its own sounds internally if you will, and when that signal comes out, it is ready to be amplified as is.

I took my x50 korg over to my son's to show him how awesome it was. I put it through the triple x head and hartke 4x12". it sounded so fucking horrible. I almost freaked out in disappointment that I could not show my son how awesome the synth was. that 1/2 stack sounds great with a guitar and absolutely unlistenable with th synth, pure ass.

keyboard amps have always been clean full range amps.  

just to dick around, you can run your synths into a stereo that has any kind of line in.  that is basically what I do when not concert volume. when concert volume, just use different amps, but still is a stereo.

the thing I am starting to wonder is the best way to run like 3 or 4 pre outs without using some daisy-chain bullshit.

even as it stands, my super stereo will drop you to your knees and make you weep with joy at the ungodly rich sounds from synths. 6 big ass stereo speakers is amazing. and I will finish it up with subs so I can make everything not nailed down dance for me as I sweep the freq

so, definitely do a comparison between the 2 types of music systems and I think you will also see that a guitar rig really cheats the synth out of its sound.

I think guys like mortay and liquid are onto it: have big PA style amp system and use boutique micro amps mic'd into the main mix. synths would go right into here no problem too. a synth almost makes you set up a little "front of house" system, but you can then mic and send anything else through it too, provided you have enough channels of mixer, heh..wheeee


I still say true discreet 4 channel is needed to really express mind blowing synth stuff. you need that shit whirling all around you. I am meditating on doing just this live. I have found 2 axis joystick pots, I have 4 buss mixer, will look into the possibility of a software solution using visual basic(they give it for free, awesome powerful graphical object uses most old school basic commands) and control the mixer section in a soundcard. some soundblasters have 32 channel mixers in them, or maybe they all do if they have the same chip. I might do a many input firewire deal and the soundcard's mixer. you need 4 channels per surround channel group, so channels get eaten up fast.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on May 04, 2014, 12:39:30 AM
those brutes sure are clean sounding. 

sub 37  74 knobs 43 switches or something awesome crazy like that  booyah!

I tell you what tho, $1500 is in range of a prophet 8 module or a used p8 full keyboard.
I would take the prophet in a heartbeat,  the moog is more of what all these little synths already give us(IMO of course)
also the moog is only 2 voice.  I lived with my 2 voice ARP odyssey for a long time. I knew its limitations very well.

the tetra module is the cheapest way into dave smith synth land.

check this sick SICK video out of a dude obsessed with "run" from pink Floyd dark side of the moon doing it up on a tetra(4 voices)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on May 04, 2014, 02:18:10 PM
I don't doubt that a full range system would prod uce a more full range sound than a gguitaramp. I  think it's going to depend on what your goals and budget are. Personally I am not going to go spend a lot of money on gear. I am more of a budget musician but hey, if I made more money I might want to buy some more expensive stuff too. That said, I believe that there is a fine line, and people who spend a lot in order to achieve the "best" sound quality or arsenal of gearare oft en the ones who spend more effort trying to arrive at some plateau of sonic greatness and less time makingg ood music. I tend to get preachy about doing more with less and using what you have. We aall know or have known thedr ummer with 20 cymbals and the high end kit that can't play to save their ass. I never want to be that guy and I generally try to steer my friends away from that path as well.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on May 05, 2014, 05:45:26 AM
the amp isn't as important as the full range speakers needed for synths, vocals, percussion, orchestral instrumentation and all the other PA-ish stuff.

PA speakers play cd's pretty good because they are full range. 

to do it on the cheap, use a pair of full-range speakers with a pair of guitar amps if you already have those.
you run your tube amps at the highest gain setting with lowest input gain you can get away with before falling into the noise floor. drive the amp like a power amp vs a pre+power amp. a tube amp has good freq response. you may have to disable input capacitor-hi freq killer circuits or othe bullshit tone stuff, but a straight amp is a straight amp

so IF like rager came up with any  pair of 8 ohm full range speakers, he could run one from his marshall amp and one from his orange, match the volumes and run stereo. in fact, I would guess, the bottom end through tube amps and the right speakers would be dreamy rich and thick and chocolaty
tube bass is sweet bass. I would try it, especially with the amps sitting right there haha.
 
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 05, 2014, 06:54:06 PM
I understand what you're saying robert but I love gear and like to have lots of options. I just sold my microkorg out of non use and redundancy. Other things might be sold off as I decide their usefulness and non redundancy.

Jib. As far as the sub 37 and the DSI stuff, I like the immediate access to controls instead of menus. Don't get me wrong DSI stuff is awesome as is the elektron and stuff of that ilk. But once I get proficient with the knob turning stuff then maybe some of that other will be in order. Right now it would just confuse and frustrate me.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on May 05, 2014, 10:32:14 PM
I gotcha.   my perspective is always skewed since I look from the angle of a keyboard player vs a sound constructor. so ya, I always scope out the ymaha tyros and all those big "player" synths too.





















Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 08, 2014, 08:43:31 PM
I think when I connect up both the Micro and Mini Brute I basically have a CS-15.  Really cool.  i wanted to go home and play tonight but my girl wants to go out to eat.  I reluctantly agreed.

Oh and I think I'm gonna get an Arturia Beatstep.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 11, 2014, 11:36:39 PM
Beatstep hooked up to the super Nova for an upstairs coffee table evening jam.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_20511_zps8cfef3e4.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_20511_zps8cfef3e4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 18, 2014, 10:36:32 PM
This SE-1 is so super badass. This is pro shit. Very apparent difference between this and consumer grade shit.  Super clean sounding oscillators filters and envelopes. Just incredibly bad to the bone.

Can't wait to get the Sub 37 this fall. That's when they'll be shipping.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on May 19, 2014, 03:21:10 AM
ya, next level. those arturia synths are very clean too. actually, just getting synths with knobs will make it easier for you to "get" the whole synth thing. easier to see that it is just massive mangling of a waveform. but subtle things like using th elow freq wave to influence the main wave, or what is a filter, how do all parts of an envelope work. that is all key shit and it does make more sense layed out with all th eknobs.

I learned on an arp odyssey. like the 2 oscillator version of the se-1. everything was right out front.  I remember I didn't get wtf an LFO really was for a while.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 20, 2014, 02:34:23 PM
Fuck me, there's another SE-1 on the local CL.  Do I need two?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 25, 2014, 11:38:02 PM
My shit's startin' to look like a Herbie Hancock video.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_20711_zps8b2f741b.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_20711_zps8b2f741b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 04, 2014, 07:01:02 PM
So I talked to my buddy this morning that owns this place  http://briz.us/  

He performs as BRIZBOMB using this.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/brizbomb_zpscbb6ba54.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/brizbomb_zpscbb6ba54.jpg.html)

Shit gets really loud and he swears by QSC powered mains.  For some stuff he uses the 2 way 12's which are plenty loud with a Mackie mixer.  I guess as of late he's been using some serious big shit for BRIZBOMB like 5k watts with 15's and 18's.  He can afford to buy what he wants but has had the best luck with the QSC shit so that's what I'm kind of looking at.  Maybe these, used of course.   http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/K12?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PPC&utm_campaign=livesound&device=c&network=g&matchtype=&gclid=CJ7Fr5ip4b4CFQ9hfgodDwIAFA
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on June 04, 2014, 10:58:59 PM
I thought you said you weren't into noise and power electronics..that dudes rig is unreal..
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 04, 2014, 11:14:18 PM
I know I like what I like. But as a whole, much of it I don't like. His stuff is very soundscape/ambient and the last several years he's incorporated visuals. It's quite the thing. He can afford all that shit.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on June 04, 2014, 11:27:42 PM
right on. to each his own. although, admittedly I do have a hard time understanding how someone like yourself can be so into synths and not at least be a little morbidly curious about the extreme versions of music that incorporates it. but you seem to be..to some degree apparently. I may be able to turn you to the darkside after all.  ;) 
check out 905 tapes, if you already don't know of the label. I think theres stuff you might dig.
http://905store.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html (http://905store.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 04, 2014, 11:39:14 PM
Yes. I've been aware of 905 for quite a while.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on June 05, 2014, 12:42:00 AM
and?? you like the stuff?? no?? feel free to elaborate. or not.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on June 05, 2014, 04:54:07 AM
holy patch cord wars batman.  

can I have that brizolith o synth

/inb4lumpy

those QSC's are nice piece-part PA setups for dj's. lots on CL and used at GC, but never dirt cheap. they are great to just run right from the mixer or a splitter/buffer/pre wtf you have heh. less pieces parts for easier setup and keeping track of the less total parts and cables.
I have the GC boys only looking for 2 ohm QSC's for me.  I am that impressed with this baby of the rmx line: rmx850. quiet as a home stereo. kind of meh bottom end for home stereo listening(yeah I spent a day working it out with all kinds of sources. oh sweetness with the synths, which is what it is for anyweay) but ok for PA work since everything is processed and eq'd and everything else. I even tried it out using th eline level from th etape out on the receiver and used the master gain knobs to control volume. worked great. mixer, great, actual preamp great whichnow we have a set n forget master gain setup with variable volume preamp, but it isn't necessary to just use the amp gains as speed governors heh.

nice nice nice all the way around and they keep themselves plenty cool, even was chilling me a little from the fan draft

those class D amps have a different power supply. it is some hi-freq magnetic switching voodoo that I think bob carver first used on a lightweight 200w/ch amp around 1980, at least for home. everyone was amazed at the weight reduction by not having big power transformers anymore.

amp mfrs like crown and qsc have several series of amps. they have several series of prices. these 2ohm amps I keep going on about are old school with toroidal transformers and weigh a ton. the class d's are the 10 # great priced ones.

class d is actually good for subs, but not low impedance shit like car stereo. a car stereo sub amp can arc weld. a class d switching supply cannot put out that kind of raw current.  however, the class-d amps are just fine into reactive loads and full range shit, especially at 8 ohms. they can drive plenty of voltage to get watts, just not plenty of current to get watts.  power(W)=I*IR.  car stereos use this to get the square of big current with low resistance. power(W) also =V*V/R so you can get power from squaring up hi-voltage through larger resistance.

electronic flouescent ballasts are switching supply devices. you need wtf 300v but shit for current so they run a hi freq square wave and save a ton of energy under the entire time vs energy curve(think setting up an integration here like in math class)

ps, rager, all that shit lit up is beautiful, even without hearing anything it's awesome to look at.

edit: I want a couple of amps with low impedance stability for certain speaker combos and my 2 ohm frankensteins, otherwise I would have gotten a pair of crown SL1500's(class d 350ish w/ch into 8 ohms like 700 into 4 ohms, weighs 15#, fuck yeah) last winter, but I rethought the ultimate needs which requires 2 2-ohm amps. but I will snag a class d crown or qsc as the final amp ( I want 4 stereo PA amps total for 8 separate channels of amplification is my whole story, but I might have parallel sub arrays or massively parallel mid/high arrays, so need some 2 ohm capability ....)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on June 06, 2014, 03:30:54 AM
Quote from: RAGER on May 25, 2014, 11:38:02 PM
My shit's startin' to look like a Herbie Hancock video.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_20711_zps8b2f741b.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_20711_zps8b2f741b.jpg.html)

robot limbs would be optimal.

tight setup yo-
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 06, 2014, 04:08:51 PM
Still have a bunch of crap upstairs so.........  Was gonna go full anon but the damn phone lid down from the vibes I guess to reveal my stupid face.  First thing this morning so no makeup......

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on June 07, 2014, 02:17:20 AM
hey, whoa whoa whoa, that's you really playing keys. careful, you might fuck up and actually learn to play keyboards
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 07, 2014, 12:37:38 PM
I know, right? :D  Gotta study some Emerson, Ricky "The Cape" Wakeman, Tony Carrey,  Don Airey, Jon Lord, etc....
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on June 07, 2014, 10:39:57 PM
sun ra
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 10, 2014, 06:22:43 PM
Likin my Waldorf so far.  Just one of the cool sounds I can get out of this thing.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 17, 2014, 12:59:45 PM
Gonna dust off my old Tascam 4 track and use it in my synth rig.  4 tracks of constant loops to fade in and out.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on June 18, 2014, 09:48:51 AM
you would feel like god with a huge crystal clean stereo slicing the audiosphere with giant magic.  it doesn't all have to sound like it came out of a casio speaker. it can sound ungodly huge. synths are fucking amazing, especially if you let them out properly.

chief, get some clean amplification already and run all that shit through the mixer into the big stereo. you will shit.

so GC by me is starting to get that roland aira stuff in stock. I gave my son some happy travels cash so I have to wait again, plus my sis is finally going to get this fucking car out of here, but i'm going to take it up and get brakes/battery before she takes it, so there goes some other toy for the time being too.

i'm prtty set that i'll get a dave smith tetra as the next table unit.

some day we will have to collaborate, especially since we will have two different sets of synths. I can learn actual keyboard parts. just a matter of time and practice, but piano was my 1st instrument so it is still there even tho I don't play that much anymore. you can figure out all the details of my arpeggiators so I don't have to haha. ps, I dig playing bass on the synth, esp jazz bass cuz there are no wrong notes.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 18, 2014, 11:17:27 AM
I am either picking up a pair of mackie 450 watt powered mains this morning or putting money down on those and the prophet 600. Just gotta decide when I get there. Either way the mackies will be mine today or by Saturday payday. Again, not taking dough out of savings. I can wait a couple days. Just gotta decide on the prophet. Perfect unmolested specimen but needs the updated treatment.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on June 18, 2014, 01:55:48 PM
I am stoked for you to hear your synths through full range with some schmaltz behind it.

edit: caution..audio heroin. the power of the bass haha.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 18, 2014, 02:34:51 PM
Ok.  Bought the Mackies and put the SCI Prophet on layaway.  Can't wait for Saturday night (my Friday).

Getting in touch with dude that fixed my Novation to see about the upgrades for the Prophet.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 19, 2014, 12:48:38 PM
Names I'm considering for my new electronic project if I actually ever do any recording or live stuff.

Zero Serum

Triage Fort

Glow-Blinken
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on June 19, 2014, 08:51:51 PM
Glo-blinken sounds cool.

the synth collection expands! you seem to be lucky in finding good stuff. congrats on the scores.

I tried an old moog prodigy the other day at a music store. man, I used to think that thing was probably the coolest synth I ever owned, but after checking one out after 10+ years, it's almost a joke, but more like a toy. The minibrute easily kicks it's ass, which makes me thankful that I have it. two oscillators tho, that's the clincher. I know that you mentioned running the miniB into a microB (or a module) to get two oscs going, but I have to figure out what to buy. I think that tonight I'll try running a software synth at the same time.

I'm starting to work with the synth more lately. I committed to doing an act for my friend who is starting up a gong show thing at a brewery next door to where I work. (It's a comedic talent show, for those who don't remember the tv show from the 70's.) I've agreed to do a guaranteed gong-able act in which I improvise some terrible noise on my synth and take it really seriously when i get gonged. So I'm practicing for that. I guess. have been used to improvising interesting noise, so to try and make it sound horribly bad is actually requiring some education. I went and bought a boss super shifter pedal, which can do the high and low pitch vocals. It does some other cool shit too, so that was a good buy for $40. I'm gonna wear some costume and probably go with the high pitched chipmunk vocals. I hope it doesn't last more that a couple of minutes. that will be my first foray into solo synth act territory.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on June 21, 2014, 02:07:48 AM
I definitely am getting more turned off to vintage electronics too. the new stuff is too powerful and relatively, an order of magnitude cheaper now.

also, i'm really bummed. I set up my whole synth rig to make some noise and there's no lights. haha.

name my band "hole blacken"

so now I have to figure out how I want to use the 12-step foot thing in all this shit.

that would be a good problem

here is what that 12 step is:
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 21, 2014, 10:33:30 AM
I still think the prodigy sounds pretty bad ass but all those old moogs feel clunky. Like something's gonna break. Minibrute is super cool but sounds nothing like a moog. The mini and micro together is a force to be reckoned with for sure. That way you get duophony or parophony (sic) whichever but it sounds baaaaad. That's the important part. 

Good luck on sounding gongable. You ought to do something to trip you up. Transpose to. Key you're least familiar with or something to help in sounding terrible. Check out noise artist Redneck from up here for inspiration.

Jib. What's up with the synths?

Shit that foot controller is way affordable. Dammit. Now on the list.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on June 21, 2014, 11:42:20 PM
haha, the synths. my synths are all old school. the dx-7 1st gen like from 1982 ish has a red number segment light and otherwise dark.
boss GM MIDI module, unlit lcd, no power light even.
kawaii k4r module, one tiny yellow backlit LCD
alesis drum machine, unlit lcd , no power light either

ok the korg x50 has like 4-5 lights and a lit screen, but this is a black hole of darkness compared to you audio Christmas light display

long story longer, I was horsing around. you and your galaxy of lights is glo blinken
my deep space vacuum of darkness is called hole blacken


imagine when glo blinken collides with hole blacken.
we world ownen.

ja! haha

btw, glo blinken rolls really nicely. so when you do band merch, embroider micro LED's into the logos on the shirts. and they will really glo blinken.

edit: yeah, that foot controller is nice. ok I have more lights. in fact that fucking thing with its white led's makes a great worklight for behind the synths to do wiring
it runs off a usb cable. I had to get the midi adapter box to run th eold school stuff. if you want to just run your DAW or mew usb synths, you can skip the adapter and the unit will parasite off the pc's or tablet's usb power
(the dude in one of the demo vids didn't have enough power from his ipad to power the 12step enough to do a patch change. there are like a dozen bright white led's on all the time.

the midi adapter box has its own wall wart and puts plenty of juice to the 12 step that way. everything is snappy as far as I can see

that company also has a thing called a soft step or something which is a performance controller vs extra foot keyboard. for large gangs of patch changes and sample triggers I could see that being better, but I want to play latched pads and bass lines and the 12 step does that .
there are 50 combos of up to 5 notes. the 5 octave 5 note spread is huge as fuck heh. the 2 octave one is nice, and every chord combo you can think of  even power chord fifths.
and octave down until all the notes make you want to puke when you play it loud haha

i'll make a little video shortly after I re-arrange so I can actually play this mess (my salt buckets = your tray tables)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on June 24, 2014, 01:08:44 PM
well i pulled off the gong show act. got gonged after about a minute into it, but people were yelling for me to quit pretty much right away. success!

I did manage to make a couple of contacts for future jamming or whatev. So, some people were impressed that I can work the thing, but to me it was just total fucking around. pretty fun
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on June 24, 2014, 05:17:32 PM
Quote from: eyeprod on June 24, 2014, 01:08:44 PM
well i pulled off the gong show act. got gonged after about a minute into it, but people were yelling for me to quit pretty much right away. success!

I did manage to make a couple of contacts for future jamming or whatev. So, some people were impressed that I can work the thing, but to me it was just total fucking around. pretty fun
heh, awesome.

\m/
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 24, 2014, 06:56:42 PM
I'm definitely doing some gong worthy shit.  Different shot of my set up

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_21641_zpsa755a5e1.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_21641_zpsa755a5e1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on June 24, 2014, 08:07:24 PM
good looking setup! I'm still hoping to get a drum machine soon. Sort of leaning towards a sample based one, so I can record and use my own samples rather than onboard sounds. even analog based drum sounds aren't really what I want to be limited to using. I really like acoustic sounds that can be tweaked.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on June 25, 2014, 01:24:17 AM
Quote from: RAGER on April 23, 2014, 07:43:11 PM
Synth corner currently.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_19651_zps732af14b.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_19651_zps732af14b.jpg.html)

2 things about that.

1. you need a moog subphatty with case in mint condition, (which i happen to have in my possession).

2. i need that orange head.

did you just get a big rubbery one?

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on June 25, 2014, 05:28:34 AM
GLWT, I can't even weasel his malekko.

that fooger delay/drum video was a nice look into the fooger delay. lots of tap tempo I saw, the ending fadeawy was the best part.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 25, 2014, 10:58:37 AM
1. I have already put a preorder deposit on the Sub 37 that is everything the subphatty is and then some. It should be out in the fall.

2.  Myself and that Orange will prolly never part ways. The same with that Marshall under it.

Jib. There is a malekko 616 on the local cl. If you want I can try to commandeer it for you. They want 125. Check it out.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on June 25, 2014, 12:55:29 PM
sadness overcomes me on so many levels.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on June 25, 2014, 01:49:27 PM
heh, i'm just fucking around again.  i'll just use the memory lane 2 since my son didn't take it with him. later I will buy a double delay. I see I am not the only person who sees uses for that setup.

ok, first run with new toys.  this "stepping while playing" is a new sensation.

in the vid it takes 2 minutes to get my shit together, maybe skip the 1st 2 min. you'll get the idea way before it is over, but it got going towards the end. I was not really paying attention to the guitar as much as the footpedal

I just slaved the korg arpggiator to the alesis drum machine for extra percussion. foot pedal running kawaii and boss modules with w/e patch I found that sounded cool. guitar thru big digital reverb, that's it for a start.  next comes songs and more refinement of wtf i'm doing, but the potential for this minimal setup to sound great is there already

/stoked

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 25, 2014, 02:46:16 PM
Quote from: Beta Cloud on June 25, 2014, 12:55:29 PM
sadness overcomes me on so many levels.

Sheeeeiiiiiiiiit!  You've got lots of good gear and a great band from what I gather.  No fret boyo.  Have a glass of dandy wine for me.

Jib, was there a baby sleeping in the house?  Turn that shit up!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on June 26, 2014, 04:01:22 AM
Quote from: RAGER on June 25, 2014, 02:46:16 PM
Quote from: Beta Cloud on June 25, 2014, 12:55:29 PM
sadness overcomes me on so many levels.

Sheeeeiiiiiiiiit!  You've got lots of good gear and a great band from what I gather.  No fret boyo.  Have a glass of dandy wine for me.

Jib, was there a baby sleeping in the house?  Turn that shit up!

yet still i covet thine orange...
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on June 26, 2014, 10:01:41 PM
here's what I've been doing. improv noise with the minibrute and couple of pedals. sometimes it turns out pretty good.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on June 27, 2014, 05:10:15 AM
these screwing around videos must be awfully boring to most people, but nothing can replace standing next to someone(video works very well also) watching them just dicking around to see what happens for ideas and techniques to try.  like it could be me fucking with the brute and a looper, but instead, i'm burning and drinking coffee while you tweak. but we were both there for the experience...so yeah...

i have to see if my korg can feed its arpeggiator notes out the midi to other lame modules with no arp function on them
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on July 01, 2014, 05:31:09 PM
I been outta town for a couple days and last night in the hotel room I pop on one of my synth groups on FB and somebody posted an Access Virus A desktop for 150 bux.  And I'm outta fucking town.  Gone immediately. fuck!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on July 03, 2014, 01:10:50 PM
Lots of cool vintage synth goodness on this guys channel.

https://www.youtube.com/user/mik300z
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on July 07, 2014, 12:40:37 AM
This guy Joe and I are plotting my next move.  What I have and what I need.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_21821_zps75a07a16.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_21821_zps75a07a16.jpg.html)

This is his rig.  fuck me.  I'm fucked. About 20k later

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_21831_zpse77c817b.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_21831_zpse77c817b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on July 07, 2014, 01:01:54 AM
nice rig. I see he has those elektron beauties. I'm into one of those octatracks. modular seems really cool, once you have a powered case you just start adding modules and buying patch cables in pretty colors. eventually you have a wall of the stuff. one can dream
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on July 07, 2014, 01:30:15 AM
I know man. That's a lot of stuff. Gonna may start with a 3 row case. That's in the future though. Gonna get my prophet 600 this week probably.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on July 07, 2014, 02:40:34 AM
MODULAR=MAINTENANCE.
careful what you wish for.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on July 07, 2014, 10:02:52 AM
What kind of maintenance?  Power supply? Jacks?  This wont be vintage stuff but new production modules.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on July 07, 2014, 11:21:54 PM
yeah, your pal joe has a pile of toys. is that an old planet phatt module way to the right? the purple unit. those series had some of the best sounds in the day,

I cant help wonder at what point it becomes more of a toy collection vs an integrated and used setup. there is a lot of redundant stuff in there.

but from watching demos, I would take those 2 black boxes dead center if I could choose something. I guess so would lumpy heh [hi-5 to lumpy]

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on July 08, 2014, 01:25:24 PM
We actually had a long talk about redundancy.  He may have different voices of things but there's not much redundancy there.  He's not sentimental about shit he doesn't use.  He works at Malekko, Control Voltage, and builds systems and cases for other people.  He's also an Abelton instructor and has owned most of the vintage synths we drool over at one point in time.  Dude knows his shit in and out.  Glad to know him.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on July 08, 2014, 03:45:06 PM
yeah, he sounds like a phenomenal resource.  so does he mostly do skrillex type stuff with all that or what?

and what if you don't want to do dance music or arpeggiator trance music?  that guy's rig offers very little for a keyboard player.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on July 11, 2014, 03:53:25 PM
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on July 11, 2014, 04:43:08 PM
is that one of yours? 
here's one of mine speaking of creepy soundtracks
[soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/doktordeath/fantasyandfudgeincminor1amp[/soundcloud]

[this is very dark bach worship of a sorts.  all creepy chords were employed.
it is just a 1 take fake, but velocity sensitivity and layering make it sound multitrack.  korg x-50 is one badass toy. only thing used.]


Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on July 11, 2014, 08:17:44 PM
Yep, crappy iphone recording.  That was the Minibrute, the Beatstep, SuperNova, SE-1, and Prophet.

Nice chords there jib. Been trying to work on some runs and scales all of which can be turned into chords of course.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on July 12, 2014, 12:16:45 PM
Check oot the sweet hand drawn traces. 

This little board will replace the Z80A IC.  Just some solderin gof a few jumpers on the board.  No mods whatsoever to the Prophet.  100% reversable.  This will really open some shit up.  More stability, less steppy and basically just better.  Awesome to have firmware updates on an 80's synth.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_22031_zpsa45ba315.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_22031_zpsa45ba315.jpg.html)

Ic that will be replaced
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_21951_zps6b17a379.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_21951_zps6b17a379.jpg.html)

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_22001_zps3351ff69.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_22001_zps3351ff69.jpg.html)
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_21991_zpse1172dff.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_21991_zpse1172dff.jpg.html)
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_21961_zps0f529125.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_21961_zps0f529125.jpg.html)
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_21941_zps9f5753f1.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_21941_zps9f5753f1.jpg.html)
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_21931_zps9169d66f.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_21931_zps9169d66f.jpg.html)
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_21921_zps1322de7d.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_21921_zps1322de7d.jpg.html)
^^Voices
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on July 12, 2014, 02:48:17 PM
cool looking boards.  good luck.

just got the zoom sampler that I ordered 2 weeks ago. It's older, but I think it will do the trick for me and some rhythm patterns that I can jam over. I was excited to work it out, but the parts for my mutron phase 2 clone came the other day and I'm busy putting that together. will report back with a vid or soundclip.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on July 16, 2014, 05:39:20 PM
Sound clip would be cool.  Maybe give a bit of a tutorial of it too.  The sampler that is.

Here's my new synth nestled in with the others.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_22111_zpsad732189.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_22111_zpsad732189.jpg.html)

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on August 13, 2014, 01:38:29 PM
rager, I have a question:  do you have any recommendation on a sequencer that can run old school sound modules via old school MIDI. I seem to recall you mentioning an ez2 use sequencer/arpeggiator that you have. I have my old kawaii and boss sound modules, and even the dx-7 I suppose as available slave modules. they have cool sounds and really are awesome stacked. but I really need help from something that plays sequences that I can trigger. basslines seem a natural for sequences as do huge fill pad type sounds.

ironically, I need performance oriented synths also for my wall of sound. deep menus are useless except for working on projects on the computer in non-realtime. I was close to buying a tetra module because analog awesomeness like nothing else that cheap EXCEPT, you basically have to have a DAW open like ableton to run it, so, no way. I would have to get a keyboard version of a dave smith synth, and I haven't won the lottery yet, so.. I believe the mininova will be the next synth. it has nice performance tweaks, and big buttons and they are starting to be available for $399 shipped, which is pretty tasty. sounds great for digital.

are you still getting that sub 37?  I have been looking at demos. it sounds great.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on August 21, 2014, 01:16:59 PM
That white thing with the pads and knobs sitting on that master keyboard is the ez sequencer I use.  Arturia beatstep.  $99 new.

The Sub 37?  You mean this one?

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_22491_zps92e48291.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_22491_zps92e48291.jpg.html)
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_22501_zps2efa48a6.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_22501_zps2efa48a6.jpg.html)
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_22481_zps842f5175.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_22481_zps842f5175.jpg.html)
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_22541_zps702286ed.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_22541_zps702286ed.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on August 22, 2014, 05:51:51 AM
sweet
it doesn't get much better than that.
looking forward to hearing some awesomeness once you find and spin all the knobs.

I will study up on that arturia sequencer. I hope that is what I want. nice cheap price for a change, especially since I don't want to throw a bunch of money keeping old school gear useful. this korg has mint arps, but doesn't output the sequence, or I haven't found how to do that if it is possible. also I want the korg and the eventual mininova to do their own thing, so this isn't important anyway in the big picture if the korg cannot output the sequence.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on August 24, 2014, 11:06:24 PM
That thing looks awesome! Man, new synths are cool. I've got an old yamaha cs-15 at my house right now. Part of a new project I'm involved with. This thing sounds great, but these old analog synths are just so basic. It makes me want a little more out of it. It just doesn't scream or really cut very well. Maybe with some overdrive or fuzz after it I can get it to melt faces. I bet that moog can do all sorts of amazing stuff. How's the keyboard feel? Are the knobs tight or kinda loose. I really love the feel of panel mounted jacks and controls.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on August 24, 2014, 11:25:40 PM
I'm probably not the best person to assess synths but to me this Moog is the end all be all.  Everything is literally perfect.  Keys feel semi weighted with just the right resistance, the knobs feel solid.  Damn, It's just super badass. And the sound capabilities.........Fuck!  Especially with the Moog delay.  I'm already looking around at what I have that I don't need anymore.  But i won't get rid of anything right away until I know for sure.  This synth would be just fine at $500 more.  If you don;t have one now it will be months before you can get one.  If you can swing one it might just be the last one you buy.  Minimoog+a million. Arp,sequencing, percussive, sub bass,...............................
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on September 03, 2014, 03:42:29 PM
Let the iphone run for a couple synth jams this morning.






Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on September 03, 2014, 11:58:15 PM
excellent demos man, everything is on point to cause the GAS.
kudos-
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on September 04, 2014, 02:35:30 AM
I agree. those were nice demos.   I am digging watching your keyboard skills advancing too.  look at you go.

guitar players actually have an edge on using both hands to play keys because of the well developed left hand coordination.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on September 05, 2014, 08:32:43 PM
i wasn't super into that second one, but it's cool to see you working on your keyboard skills. I keep telling myself to do that more often, but i think i'm one of these guys who just makes sweeps, blips and bleeps
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on September 05, 2014, 09:05:20 PM
Ah... you must be one of thumbs downers. :D  yeah it's nothing great just working on my actual playing.  Sounds way better in the room of course.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on September 05, 2014, 10:35:07 PM
nah i wouldn't thumbs down it, but i would tell you what i think. /thumbsup
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Dave J on September 21, 2014, 07:03:36 PM
Something I put together with my Animoog app on my iPad.  I first put the drum track down from Garageband, multi tracked the synth part, and then put some clips from Pulp Fiction.  When I don't feel lazy, I'll go back and edit the movie clips, 'cause I used too much.  I like this though.  Enjoy.


[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/davej1066/ezekiel-25-17[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on September 22, 2014, 02:48:18 AM
^that was cool. I started flashing scenes from the movie.  so ya I guess that did take me away from the song a little with all the long dialogues from scenes
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Omlet on September 22, 2014, 04:23:12 AM
I suck at synths. To be honest, I can't play more than a single note on any keyboard instrument. However, I made three or four retro-synthwave tunes, using only a DAW and various VST plugins, mainly SQ8L and some shit built in the FL Studio.

I don't know if it fits into this topic, as it's done 100% digitally. If not, tell me to GTFO and I will do it ;)

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on September 22, 2014, 05:34:53 AM
shit omlet, that was a righteous construction. 
I dig that type of music for sure.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Omlet on September 22, 2014, 10:14:33 AM
I'm glad you like it :)
It's available for free download at https://polymatrix.bandcamp.com/
Also it's a big chance that it will be released on tape and maybe cd as well.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Dave J on September 22, 2014, 11:01:27 AM
Quote from: jibberish on September 22, 2014, 02:48:18 AM
^that was cool. I started flashing scenes from the movie.  so ya I guess that did take me away from the song a little with all the long dialogues from scenes

Thanks Jibberish.  When I first put it together I wasn't sure what I wanted to cut.  Now I do.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on September 22, 2014, 11:35:20 AM
Hey omlet check out the label Rosso Corsa. Countach!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: tombhex on September 24, 2014, 09:36:10 AM
Quote from: Omlet on September 22, 2014, 10:14:33 AM
I'm glad you like it :)
It's available for free download at https://polymatrix.bandcamp.com/
Also it's a big chance that it will be released on tape and maybe cd as well.

I'm loving it. I need a good Blade Runner fix every once in a while, this will do it nicely. Will absolutely buy a cassette if you end up putting one out.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Omlet on September 24, 2014, 10:01:38 AM
I'll post news about the release when I get some info about it. You can count on it :)

Unfortunately I don't know when I'll be able to record any new Polymatrix songs as it's really tedious process. Also, I'll need a new PC because this one is on the decline...
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on September 24, 2014, 12:33:16 PM
Just a neato little video

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on September 25, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
first round after hooking up my scurvy pile of stuff to all go at once. I have 5 things that make noises. it looks like I am tripping over stuff, just dancing on that pedalboard like a tard heh.

I had it loud heh, and the camera facing away from the speakers. I was wondering about that, but the audio is superb and the bass is all there, so I am probably going to do more with just the camera mic when not anything serious.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on September 25, 2014, 01:51:01 PM
The cloud setting on the big sky would turn that plucky organ sound into a cathedral pipe organ.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on September 25, 2014, 02:09:29 PM
I could imagine. you probably could smell the stench of the reverb I have all the way to your house.

but that thin patch has been one of my favorite patches since the beginning. I call it a space oboe. it says synth lead 1 heh, boring. it has a square wave trem and weird tones. 

that was actually a good demo for just how hi quality that DX-7 really is.  the keys are perfect. aftertouch, velocity sensitive, and they have enough weight and snap that you actually can dribble them off the bottom like a B-ball. you cant help but be fast as lightning. the sound selection kind of blows, but it is analog still, just with some weird additive synth concept. and the 2 wheels makes for a lot of screwing around. the menu blows dead elephants. you need at least a masters in archaeology

the wall of sound keeps growing. next I will jam some guitar and also some organ into tube amps n shit for some john lord action, then try to combine it all together.

I am feeling a clocking crisis approaching though. that is where I am going to start looking around at what is out there and what other people are doing.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on September 25, 2014, 02:16:16 PM
Roland SBX-1

http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2014/09/01/roland-sbx-1-sync-box-lets-you-connect-all-your-gear-together-swing-it/
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on September 25, 2014, 02:23:13 PM
dig it. I wonder if they can be daisy chained if you need more outs
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on September 25, 2014, 02:25:08 PM
Looks like it.

Ouch and 5 hundo a pop.  Goddamm Roland
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on September 25, 2014, 02:27:53 PM
Arturia needs to make one for a hundo w/ 4 I/O
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Omlet on September 25, 2014, 06:52:46 PM
Fuck me, it's out now :D

https://synthesizer.bandcamp.com/album/170-polymatrix-polymatrix-ep
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on September 25, 2014, 10:42:49 PM
I wish I was motivated like omlet  8)

I will study up on the master clock issue more.
I looked into a MIDI splitter. I would like one, so that many midi outs are parallel and all timed the same vs daisy chaining and adding up propagation delays

it turns out that there are some simple chips that make this pretty easy.


maybe there is some insight specific to timing. I do not want to rely on a PC for controlling the show.  those rolands look like you can run several from a PC, but not slave them like those old ADAT's or tetra modules. if that roland had like 10 outputs of each type, I would be more interested.   

windows is an interrupt driven OS, not clocked realtime like DOS used to be. USB in a PC is shady at best. that's why serious people still use firewire or low bandwidth shit like stereo audio streams which is slow enough to absorb hesitations in the input continuity.  the biggest complaint about midi clocking is windows pc's.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on September 26, 2014, 03:43:35 PM
Late last night jam be fore bed time.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on September 26, 2014, 09:05:50 PM
sounds good. Getting better. How many synths are you generally using these days? 3-4?

That last vid jib posted had some good playing in it. Nice and simple setup. Inspiring.

I've slowly been getting better at keys. Learned a couple of new scales, that helps me a lot. Digging pentatonic, of course. I learned that A pent is really easy and just uses white keys. The other trick I've been using lately but have overlooked at times is uptuning the synth (a 1/2 step I guess it is) so that the black keys are E pentatonic (D# becomes E). Makes it easy to play with a standard tuned guitar.

I've been jamming with this guitar player lately and we trade off on every instrument, but I've been playing mainly synth and samples, so it's been very hands on learning for me. We play along with drum loops or take turns on the kit. I highly recommend it. A third capable and like minded guy came over the other night and it got pretty cosmic. I posted some recordings in the other thread. shits been turning out sounding like space jazz fusion. pretty fun being able to jam synth in a band setting. You really get to try things out, see what works and how to change up the tones to a desired effect. The analog synths make it fun because there's no presets, just go for it. Still would be nice to have a couple of presets tho.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on September 26, 2014, 09:31:16 PM
On average yeah somewhere between 3-5 at any time.  Sometimes more.  A lot of good stuff goes into the void cuz I'm not always recording.  I'm always thinking shit I should have recorded that but........

My Prophet has presets.  So do the Sub37 and SE-1.  It is nice, especially the Sub37 cuz you can get a pretty good preset and then just tweak it to suit.  i thought I was gonna have this dude over last week but it didn't work out.  Maybe this weekend.  I'll try and record some synth arpeggios and some live drums this weekend.  it'll just be a phone recording but what evs.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on September 27, 2014, 05:52:19 AM
I've lost precious guitar work because I was too lazy to hit record or hook it up even.   idioto!!!!
once I really get going with the synth jams I hope I keep after it a little better.
the chances of creating something that you will never remember how to duplicate is huge with synths vs just a guitar.

I need to practice way more on keybpards. I used to be halfway decent.  but so many years of just focusing on guitar really set me back

eyeprod, you found some key stuff already(nyuk nyuk). the a natural minor that is all the white keys. that is truly a beautiful thing for jams where you just need to stay on the scale.
I always have better visual of what a scale or chord is when I can see all the notes at once on a keyboard. I think you will find that exploring theory on a keyboard is slick. probably because it was developed on a keyboard.  also by doing chord forms and staying in the key, you can easily see all th eallowable in-scale chords. like it's cheating heh.

and you found  the 5 black keys. that is a special scale.  African tunes AND amazing grace use that little scale also it sounds real Japanese just playing those 5.
find those 5 notes in your a minor white key scale and you have 5 go-to notes that almost always sound good.  

C major is all the white notes too. so those monkeys that are doing an a minor song can slide a c major bridge in there, change the whole feel of the song and yet, still obey the a minor scale boundaries. SWEEET!      relative minor scale is always 3 steps below the relative major scale and use all the same notes.

I still suggest bach's  prelude #1 from well tempered clavier as a 1st song.  it has a riff that repeats over the entire song, so you don't have to focus on rhythms and that shit. he just moves notes and keeps playing the same pattern.  you get to see the god of chord progressions lay one out in front of you as you play through it.  then you steal the fuck out of pieces parts of it. there are a million tutorials/sheet music and everything else examples of that song online.

playing it through a synth rules. learn it one chunk at a time and string the chunks together. he also show you how to use the 5 occidentals(the notes outside the scale) as he flows through th eprogression and ultimately uses every chord you ever heard of, all the creepy chords and several inversions of root chords to boot.  imo, this packs so much value for its simplicity.


Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on October 03, 2014, 12:02:45 PM
Have an opportunity to buy a Roland SH3. Like I really need it but its an interesting beast. Look it up on vintage synth explorer.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on October 03, 2014, 01:27:52 PM
Think I'm gonna pass on the SH3.  Too similar to the Brutes which I already have.  Looking into Juno6 or 106.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on October 06, 2014, 02:01:58 PM
Been listening to this guys demos for the past year or so.  I donl;t think I've posted his website though.  Lots of good stuff here.

http://www.syntezatory.net.pl/gallery.htm
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on October 06, 2014, 04:41:55 PM
have to check that out.

I've been losing my taste for vintage stuff because the new stuff is awesome and cheap. the whole digital keep the analog sound in tune and control is great.
those brutes are a couple of the best sounding synths I have heard.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on October 06, 2014, 06:44:20 PM
Great site dude.  Lots of digi and hybrid stuff on there too.  Been checking out demos of Roland JP 8000 analog modeling synth.  I've looking for a poly synth with 49-61 keys.  They're fairly cheap and there's one available locally.

Think I'm gonna have somebody else do the Teensy/GliGli os  upgrade on my Phrophet 600.  Read what Olo has to say about that shit!  Soon.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on October 07, 2014, 01:10:01 AM
maybe that guy is right down the street from omlet. stranger co-inkydinks have happened.

omlet, where is this synth dude located relative to your location?  rager linked the dude's synth web page^^^

haha, he has a behringer virtualizer pro..mine died heh. fucking POS. there is the end of a DX-7 a few photos down.
he has some vintage for sure.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on October 09, 2014, 01:23:45 PM
Tonight I will be dropping off my Prophet 600 for the new processor install and new os.  I will get back basically a Prophet 5 crossed with an Oberheim.  So stoked.

I should have talked to him about doing the firmware update on my Moog.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on October 12, 2014, 12:28:53 PM
My new Drone Commander.  This thing is fun.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on October 12, 2014, 11:12:52 PM
that was pretty wild.  reverb is massive holy shit.

can I name your song?   "acid whales" is what I would call it
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on October 14, 2014, 09:52:42 PM
that is some massive reverb.

here's some synth stuff that I've been doing with the two dudes I'm playing music with. Pretty proggy and droned out fun. Starting to think of a name for it.

[cloudset]https://soundcloud.com/rtrippz/sets/9-29-14-improvisations-with[/cloudset]

fixed it. thanks
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on October 14, 2014, 10:05:17 PM
cant see the track

edit: ok , works now. that was kind of an evolution. the last song became a song. tons of potential to develop this into songs. could be awesome. good shit maynerd!

you guys are like the "Quantum Riffters" now. or maybe you ARE.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on October 15, 2014, 12:21:43 PM
thanks for listening.

yeah we've been listening back to recordings and figuring out which stuff can be loosely re-created. It's the evolutionary aspects that I like the best about it. That shit is too easily lost when you try to make "songs" out of improv jams, but we've been thinking about how to do it.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on October 20, 2014, 02:39:52 PM
https://voyag3r.bandcamp.com/album/doom-fortress
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: tombhex on October 22, 2014, 03:39:29 PM
That In the Land of the Giants track is out of control! Absolutely love this stuff, thank you so much for sharing!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on October 22, 2014, 03:55:35 PM
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Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on October 23, 2014, 01:17:45 PM
Thank you kindly, sir!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on October 28, 2014, 02:11:44 PM
Getting to know the new functions and panel controls of the Prophet 600.  Panel functions are completely different now. Gotta relearn this synth but holy balls does it sound bad ass now.


Yesterday we're having lunch at this new little bar downtown and I over hear a guy at the bar talking to the owner about the vintage Sansui receiver behind the bar so I chime in and the guy notices I'm wearing a Moog shirt and we're off to the races.  Pro full time working pianist/producer/studio hire/jingle guy, etc.........  Played synth rock in the early 80's and still has.............2 S.E.M.'s count them 2 and an OBXa...




















under a tarp in his basement that haven't been fired up in years... :o :o :o :o

I see one or all in my future.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on October 29, 2014, 01:24:45 AM
take a change of pants. is that all oberheim stuff? those s.e.m.'s? oberheim was hi end.  i'm not familiar with those.

googlesized it:
is that the original version of the oberheim sem that is in sweetwater's synth modules for $1200?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on October 29, 2014, 06:35:56 PM
That would be the ones.  Except no midi.  All CV.

Switched stuff around yet again.  The Synth Circle.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/photo13_zps9a922f26.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/photo13_zps9a922f26.jpg.html)

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on October 30, 2014, 12:36:39 AM
yeah, the collection looks nice. 

out of all that stuff, is there any units that you feel you should not have gotten now that you have a pretty wide perspective of gear?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on October 31, 2014, 07:18:49 PM
To answer your question, I've only gotten rid of one thing and that was the Microkorg.  I found that I just didn't use it.  I'm not really all that impressed with the Electrix Mofx either.  But sometimes it just takes a while to figure out where and in what combination things work together.  I don;t always use the Micron but when I do I'm glad it's there.  It's got those big digital pads that are sometimes needed to fill in between the mono synths.  that and it does a bunch of other stuff too.  Speaking of super synths, I think my SuperNova is about to shit the bed for good this time.  It's getting very temperamental and unreliable.  Eh oh well it's pretty thick so I can use it as a cool looking riser ;)

I'm still getting to re-know the Prophet 600.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on November 04, 2014, 12:16:45 AM
the synth circle is sick as fuck!! you could charge admission to sit inside that thing..

foot and mouth disease is getting busy again. moog mutilating power electronics. im running moog concertmate mg-1 through a dod death metal pedal.. I get some great HNW tones and soundscapes..got a few other synths in the mix as well. the moog is my only keyboard synth.. 

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Foot-and-Mouth-Disease/272250709456435 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Foot-and-Mouth-Disease/272250709456435)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on November 04, 2014, 03:39:54 AM
ok, your tard filter got me. I couldn't figure out how/where to make it play a song. I even got redirected to some musician site with a star at the top.

/nextleveltard
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on November 06, 2014, 01:24:59 PM
this thing looks interesting to dick around with, but these types of things are just not very musical or useable imo.



I am however, buying one of these new akai samplers. I love the sampler I currently own, but not enough memory to be totally useful on stage.


Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on November 06, 2014, 01:36:59 PM
More stuff from my as-yet-unnamed project. The first track uses a few samples that I made on my minibrute and used during a recent live solo set that i performed at a local bar. Water theme. My partner just bought a microbrute, so we'ire looking forward to utilizing that when it arrives. I'm interested in an organ too, but it needs to be portable. I've been playing my synths through dedicated amps, but I am planning on setting up a small mixer to plug everything into and going out to a stereo mix, so I can add panning and such to my bag of tricks.

[cloudset]https://soundcloud.com/rtrippz/sets/11-3-2014-robert-and-cody[/cloudset]
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on November 06, 2014, 02:31:42 PM
Way cool stuff there man. 8)  Dig.

As far as that Olegtron goes, I love stuff like that because with a little delay and some modulation or filtering you can make it musical or rhythmic.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on November 06, 2014, 06:03:14 PM
Thanks man. most things do sound better with delay and modulation, but I think I'd rather have something that can be more easily tweaked on the fly to produce a predictable variety of sounds that are beyond blips and bleeps. It is a cool toy tho.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on November 06, 2014, 06:32:40 PM
Quote from: RAGER on October 31, 2014, 07:18:49 PMI'm not really all that impressed with the Electrix Mofx either.  But sometimes it just takes a while to figure out where and in what combination things work together.  

Check out the Sherman Filterbank, they are luscious.

Is that an Arturia BeatStep? How useful is that, for you?

Thinking about a Microbrute, but probably won't do it. I'm not that into keyboards. My dream machine is an EMS VCS3, they are rare and expensive and low-tech. If I was going to revamp what I do (super low-tech - just oscillators and stompboxes) I would probably go into modular units, or laptops (tired of dragging my stuff around on the subway).

EMS VCS3, one of the Pere Ubu/Hawkwind/Dr. Who synths:
(http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/features/blast-from-past/EMS/EMS-630-80.jpg)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on November 06, 2014, 06:37:12 PM
oh yeah, that's the one to have right there, but too hard to come by.

There is, however, a vst plugin called CYNTHIA which is modelled after that synthi. It's really fun to use, and makes you realize how awesome that joystick and patchboard are. Plus. just look at those knobs. Beautiful.

laptops are the lame. don't do it
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on November 06, 2014, 06:46:00 PM
I know, it's so boring to watch somebody play a laptop. But they only weigh 5 pounds! My low-tech rig weighs like 50 pounds, and I don't have a car.

There's an EMS ap for iPads, I'm about to go get one right now...

Holy cow, Microbrutes are so cheap. $235 with free shipping on Ebay. But what would I do with it? I guess I would need a controller, sequencer, something like that (derp).
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on November 06, 2014, 06:48:06 PM
you just set it to drone and go.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on November 06, 2014, 06:52:19 PM
it has a built in sequencer btw.

synths aren't really hard to play. If you can play guitar, you can learn to play a keyboard. These little things are monophonic (one note at a time) so you never use chords. 
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on November 06, 2014, 06:52:49 PM
The Microbrute does way more than just a keyboard.  It has a sequencer but it wouldn't hurt to get a beatstep for it either.  I don't actually touch the keys much on mine but I usually have it connected midi and cv/pitch with my Minibrute.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on November 06, 2014, 11:40:21 PM
1st gen microbrute new with some extra cables $272 from B&H

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1012037&gclid=CJWU0oLW58ECFcFDMgodkQUAxg&Q=&is=REG&A=details

the 1st gen minibrutes are like $299 used also.
the reason is arturia came out with mini/micro brute SE's ($529,$329 respectively)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on November 07, 2014, 05:14:57 AM
eyeprod. I was reading about you wanting an organ. 

would you do me a favor and lay out what your performance goals are?
I am sensing somewhere between pure bleep bloop and keith emerson.
the reason I was wondering is that my goals are smack in between bleep bloop and keith emerson. I want to make a wall of sound using sustain pedals and sequencers and multiple controllers/keyboards.


I am practicing piano like a freak. I believe that being able to deftly hit keys is a huge advantage to getting it done.
I MAY look at loopers and samplers if I still cant go big enough. those seem like cool ideas the more they keep appearing.

my old school synths basically can only be played simply(or controlled simply). or put another way, they either get played by a maestro, or they need lots of effects and sequencer type help.
I have an old Hammond organ (1959) that got real boring real fast if you weren't a pretty adept player. 2 keyboards AND foot pedals. and stops...it was too much for my skills.
now the 18watt and 50watt tube amps are sitting on top heh.  "radical tubectomy surgery was a complete success"
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but now I am raising hell and having a blast with my korg x50. it is 50/50 playable  and tweakable.  I pretty much could entertain a crowd for a few hours just by ad-libbing from inspirations from selecting different patches. my next score is going to be a mininova. that is an amazing little synth, and the price dropped $100 to $399.

I want a microbrute, but I said way long ago:"i want that parker steiner filter, it has external inputs"  I look at the microbrute as a really nice filter module more than a keyboard.
wtf can you play on 10 keys anyways? they are handy bleep bloop actuators and quicky "test your patch as you tweak"-ers.

and it may be the best quality sounding low price synth I have heard. 

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If i could get one of the indian kids from across the street, or some other middle eastern music fan in the hood to help on some percussion and add that mystical Persian vibe, it would really get special.
(listen to "An Emerald City" to see just how huge the Iranian dude is in their music HUGE, AWESOME EMERALD CITY, KIWI'S!!! check em out m8.)

if you guys were in like, let's say Parma, heh, I would totally try out for your band. once I knew what you were intending on doing that is.. ;)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on November 07, 2014, 08:05:00 AM
well first, thanks for asking. I am a big fan of popol vuh. have been for a long time, but never considered that I might ever play music in a similar vein. I really like the quasi-mystical stuff from them and certain other 70's music that often used organ sounds. It gets kinda "churchy" or spiritual in timbre. I think it also has a grounding effect. Especially when you're using synths that produce a more unearthly sound. Now that I am treading those waters, I would like to use organ for when I want to transition from deep space to a more mundane level. Nothing fancy. My goals are deliberate minimalism and thoughtful precision, not virtuosity.

I also like building up little walls of sound, but there is a limit. I have been digging the Superego pedal lately. Since it's not a true loop pedal it produces a nice, soft edged drone from any sound you put into it. I use it in my mic chain with phaser and delay, and I use that mic for acoustic guitar, voice, ethnic reeds, flutes, and percussion. I look at loopers like an extra trick to utilize, but I wouldn't want to be relying on them too much, specifically because you have no control over level and have to find ways to end loops tastefully. I've got that boss vocal pedal on my minibrute, but mainly use it for the effects and harmony, only occasionally using the loop feature. Samplers, on the other hand are great. The new one I'm getting will be used to hold a library of sounds in various keys, so when I'm in G I  have a nice selection of pre-constructed synth blasts and drum pulses at my disposal, etc etc. After I get that thing then I want to reach out and find locals who have cool synths that I can get my hands on and use to create samples. Having lots of synths is not practical nor necessary for me, but I appreciate the tonal qualities that different models offer. Have sampler, will travel.

Yeah, a good ethnic drummer with spaced out sensibilities would be cool. I know some good drummers who know a lot of trance beats, but most if not all have issues that make it hard for me to want to invite them into the circle. Same with other musicians I know that want to jam. Good people, just not in the right place musically to collaborate with on mellow stuff. That's where I'm at. Reluctant to let anyone in, for fear that they'll break the spell. Pretty guarded about my new baby.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on November 07, 2014, 03:08:36 PM
Quote from: eyeprod on November 07, 2014, 08:05:00 AM
Good people, just not in the right place musically to collaborate with on mellow stuff. That's where I'm at. Reluctant to let anyone in, for fear that they'll break the spell. Pretty guarded about my new baby.

That's pretty much me too but I've just reconnected with my old drummer and had lots of fun.  We'll see how it goes in a couple weeks.

Recorded this little thing this morning before work. Lots of gear used in this one.


Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on November 08, 2014, 12:34:25 PM
^ that is a great trance piece. you are really coming along well with that shit.
the best part is that little stutter-step with the beat.  next level maneuver.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on November 12, 2014, 11:53:00 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10805856_10152384046296576_2449762411849151047_n.jpg?oh=309c0ebfa81092c7b7d032b97cc56177&oe=55197621&__gda__=1424364916_3fa1287bf4fa54d5ff10ae1d9f40757c)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on November 13, 2014, 12:44:48 PM
^^ Shit like that just blows my mind.

This is somewhat obtainable.  GRP A4.




But not 8 of the sumbitches

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on November 13, 2014, 07:32:29 PM
One of the things I like to do is play along with a sequencer or arpeggiated riff on drums.  But I have to figure out how to keep it not so repetitive.  Like changing the sequencer or changing the cutoff or envelop manipulation somehow.  Here's a brief snippet with the envelope amp doing random things on the Minibrute. it was a while ago.




Then today while browsing youtube I found this guy.  Not exactly what I want to do but logistically along the same lines but I don't want to use a laptop or an MPC I don;t think.  Maybe I should look into those.  i think it's gonna be the whole clock thing that is gonna force me into something like that.  IDK.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on November 13, 2014, 11:39:46 PM
it's sequencing. nowadays they do it with computers or an mpc type of unit.

That guy's stuff is skillfully programmed and executed, but he's riding on tracks.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on November 14, 2014, 12:23:12 AM
yeah timing. sweetwater has these 1 in 4 out pure 1 way midi expanders for $50. they scavenge power off the MIDI (really RS-232 old protocol = lots of volts to power add on stuff)
and correct clock skewing. someone used like 5 of those to spread his drum machine timing out 16 ways so evidently they mitigate propagation degradation even in a chain.
next time I order from them I have to get at least 1.

the sequence thing for me is all about having a shitload of sequence steps. this beatstep max at 16 is already making me think around nice complex 4 measure patterns.
the roland tr-3? aira bass module has a 32 step sequencer and if any of the new brutes have a 64 step one, or maybe an octatrack or w/e with better sequencer,or a computer with infinite sequencing via MIDI+DAW.

next option is to program 4 different sequences into beatstep, then change sequences, but that requires pedal pushing of some sort live

the beatstep hooked right into my old alesis drum machine with clock in OFF and note in ON = sequencer can play the drums or I can drum by hand on the pads in the control setting. I wanted to split midi channels and play a sequence thru a synth  on ch1 and hand play drums on ch2, but I still haven't got past anything seeing anything other than Omni or ch1
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on November 14, 2014, 03:44:30 PM
Introducing the new AS-606 sequencer

http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/01/20/ambient-sequencer-as-606-designed-specifically-for-ambient-drone-music/
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on November 21, 2014, 12:57:36 AM
nice. I think Dave Mason used that on his albums. ..pink Floyd too haha
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on November 25, 2014, 11:49:39 AM
Mangled Rhythm Wolf

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 07, 2014, 04:21:33 PM
A 1 minute persuasive argument for:
1) eyeprod that a synth can make a fine organ sound
2) nice reverbs make anything sound awesome

this was just bach style big church riffs with huge pauses between each bit to listen to the reverb. this would fuck some people up running it through the subs too.

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/doktordeath/reverbdemolargechurch16bit[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on December 08, 2014, 12:25:18 AM
yeah sounded good man. Heavy church organ.

I'm convinced. Just lately been thinking a lot about my options for poly keys that will do what I want for the right price. I'm using a cheap casio and it's not half bad on a few settings with some effects and decent amp. It's bulky and has no place in a stage or studio rig. Good for getting an idea of what I want tho, and that is just some vintage type organs and pianos with a bend and -expression wheel.

I suppose that I'll have to accept some "multi-purpose" kind of keyboard/module. I kind of wish for more dedicated units that don't try to be everything in one box. The Waldorf Streichfett is pretty cool, but for the price I am considering picking up an ensoniq esq-1 again, or some other older cheap, but acceptable synth with a good keyboard. All related to organ and piano tones of course. I can get good enough for me pad sounds with a 2 osc monosynth I already have.

It's tempting to go deep into modern pad tones, but I still want to keep my music sounding like it came from the 70's. So it's a fine line when you start playing with modern equipment that sounds modern. Stepping into electronic music territory also tends to keep you walking a fine line between interesting musical expression and some stale flavor of EDM. That' why I generally lean towards old vs newer equipment, but they make some cool stuff nowadays. Gotta shop around
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 08, 2014, 04:22:19 PM
I just have a korg x50.  you can get those for $300-$400 now. this thing is a 9 pound beast.
check this factory korg demo out. the combi mode and the dual arpeggiators are great.
you can make a bunch of sound all by yourself in realtime with it.
(haha 5yr old video)


edit: the korg krome is what replaced the x50. the krome has the dual arps and tweak knobs plus a shitton more performance sounds
these synths are in the middle of pure performance and pure synth.
a used 61 key probably is $600-$700 or so. the power in this thing is staggering, especially for the money. insane.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on December 08, 2014, 06:47:50 PM
That's cool. Out of my range tho. No way am I spending more than 400 on anything. No amount of bells nor whistles can allure me into it. I just want a couple of traditional type tones. I use my analogs for performance tweaking so this purchase that I'm considering only needs to play and sound good. After writing that last post, I tthought about it and just don't want or need any fancy pads unless I can get some vintage polysynth for a price that I can't refuse. I will check out those videos tonight tho.

I guess that I am sort of hoping /waiting for arturia to release the maxi brute. Ya know, the 3 oscillator polysynth they should make available for 700-800
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 09, 2014, 04:54:51 PM
i'm trying to figure out what one thing could help you. it seems that you need a wavetable synth for 'real" sounding normal instrument patches.

I was incorrect saying the krome was the replacement for the x50. korg says it is the Kross.   these names are killing me.
the Kross is their cheapest real keyboard right now. I didn't think the Kross was the x50 replacement because it doesn't have the tweak knobs like the Krome.
but it  has the twin arps and even a step sequencer, plus a shitton of wave sounds. these are $699 NEW(61 key Kross)

the other thing that I think is a sleeper is the Yamaha psr keyboards. these are really cheap like $250 and really nice. check this demo of the psr 433 ($250)

this is sick..out of a $250 keyboard..sick
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on December 09, 2014, 08:04:45 PM
that thing sounds pretty good. Still not what I consider a pro rig tho. Too bulky, like the one I'm using atm (which is a yamaha psr240, not a casio like I thought.) It's the plastic build, big dumb screen and speakers which make these things more of a bedroom instrument, imo. I do love a sleeper tho, so keep em coming man. I also like cheap, so I will be keeping my eye out for cl scores of interest. $500 is a more realistic limit.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on December 09, 2014, 09:22:04 PM
just checking ebay...there's a farfisa louvre for $50 but local pickup only. Wow. What I wouldn't give to be near oklahoma or wherever it is located. I checked this video demo....holy shit, this thing is like analog heaven. $50, as if it was some low end casio. Clearly a monster, just looking at the pics.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 10, 2014, 02:34:36 PM
ok so no bulky bedroom keyboards.
a used x50 would work unless it is too big. all the little synths are synths. I think only korg has nice mid prices wavetable synths.
about the most compact decent sounding thing I can think of would be a sound module and controller keyboard. you mentioned the streichfett before.  that could be used like that, except it is only a string module I believe.

boss DS-330
I have had one of these since the dawn of time. it is an old General MIDI module, but nicer than soundcard sounds. I actually found a demo video where someone played it from a DAW in single mode(a single patch per MIDI channel). I play it from keyboards to fatten the sound. they are probably <$50
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 10, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
There's something about those PSR's I don't like.  Idk.  The sleeper synth I've been looking for is the Yamaha TG33/SY22.  Vector synths.

http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/tg33.php



Or maybe a Roland Alpha Juno 1



Like I need anything else :P
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 11, 2014, 09:36:30 AM
those Yamaha psr's are cheap plastic construction. they also have no MIDI out, but I was just thinking of what makes the nicest sampled sounds for the cheapest and that's it heh.
if Yamaha had that in a module with MIDI for $99 that would be hawt. when Yamaha came out with the dx series like in 1981 or so, they also made these little rack mount dx-7/5/21 whatever, cant remember. but you could put like 16 of them in  a rack for a big orchestra of DX modules all at once. one DX-7 makes a lot of noise. 16 would be huge.
the DX-21 I think was awesome and awesome expensive.

more recently I saw a DX-21 in CL. maybe 2 years ago I saw a rack of 8 of those dx modules. the keyboard is the nice part of the dx-7/21, so meh on the modules.
who wants a whole rack of FM synth modules. the dx-7 makes sweet sin wave sounds like violins and organs and also bell sounds. the electronics are clean as hell, but fm synthesis has its limits so I passed both times. one DX-7 is good enough for the keyboard as a controller and the occasional use of that type of sound. I would only get another for the keyboard like ideally , if something was screwed up in the sounds of one but the MIDI worked and it was $50. THAT's what I want heh.

if you are wondering wtf fm synthesis is, here is a nice video where a guy makes a sound with one of the raw tone generator combos and what the effect of applying the various different oscillators as the frequency modulators of the original tone carrier sin wave. he plays some bells too. the bells are freaky awesome on this keyboard.


edit:
this guy shows off the stock dx-7 sounds really nicely. It was a $2000 keyboard new, so it better have been one of the best* out there at the time. maybe Kurzweil was the best at that time.

*by "best" I mean the ones actively trying to mimic or sample real instruments. the prophet 5 and the moogs and the rolands/korgs and those little samplers like ensoniq and emu were all expensive too. some off the hook expensive.  but you don't buy a prophet 5 to try and sound like a piano. you bought a Kurzweil if you wanted to sound like a piano.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on December 11, 2014, 08:10:29 PM
I'm pretty sure that I'm set on either a) the waldorf streichfett, for instant gratification, b) a roland vk series, or something 70s-80's from them since there seem to be several interesting possible scores to be had, or c) saving up and getting the real deal. That being a farfisa compact series of some type.

I'm still open to some device that delivers what I want and includes some modern features. An organ with a filter of some sort, the ability to sound close to an electric piano and strings would be cool, and modulation & pitch control is what I am essentially after.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 11, 2014, 11:16:57 PM
cool. Except now I want a korg krome that I sold myself on heh. 
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on December 11, 2014, 11:28:21 PM
do you guys dig sun ra??
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on December 11, 2014, 11:42:50 PM
yeah, duh.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 13, 2014, 06:29:05 PM
IDK yet. I have to check them out.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 13, 2014, 06:32:22 PM
^^For realz?  I'll answer for him.  Yeah we dig Sun Ra
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on December 13, 2014, 06:44:02 PM
yeah, i figured. i have a pretty good size pile of sun ra vinyl. my fav being a bootleg from a live concert in paris. some sweet synth freakouts on that one..
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 13, 2014, 08:31:41 PM
heh. ok. my evening's music has been picked out. i will soak up some sun ra.

I am tazmania in the evolution of musical geography.   I was way out of touch for a long time just finding things on my own.
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I think I want to email arturia. 

my old alesis drum machine has a pattern you can make(like the 16 note beatstep sequence) and store.
once you stored up the patterns you need for a song, you then can make a song out of a sequence of patterns, and store those.

16 events in a sequence isn't enough. I want to suggest they make a way to string multiple saved sequences together.
I want to suggest that they put multicolored ring LED's around the 16 encoders.
then in sequence mode, once you have a sequence made, you press one of those unused buttons to activate "store sequence" and place it in one of the 16 pads you touch, and it lights up the corresponding ring LED to show a sequence was saved in one of the 16 locations. you can play sequences from this mode just by hitting one pad to trigger the sequence and it times on to the prior sequence like alesis drum patterns do when you switch in realtime.

then there is another level: song mode. this is where you can select one of the 16 saved sequences and assign it to each of the 16 sequence slots. you can use 1 slot, or leave one blank for an entire 16 steps of silence from that device if you then put another sequence after the blank, or have all 16 different sequences. have a setting that repeats song or ends song. you then can save up to 16 songs out of your 16 sequences.

im thinking that they could basically leave the hardware alone except for the LED's and maybe some more memory. then reprogram the processor and sell it for $199.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 17, 2014, 03:10:14 PM
I can create soundtracks for any genre of motion picture with these two things.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_24441_zpsb4277332.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_24441_zpsb4277332.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on December 17, 2014, 04:11:47 PM
Just bought the sampler that I wanted. Akai mpx16. Then I bought an old casio synth for cheap. Casiotone 1000p.Only has very basicsine wave ssynthesis based on preset envelopes and whatnot. Has an interesting arpeggiator too. Seems to be good for organ sounds and is a ddefinite sleeper if not down right laughable to some. Pre midi. Just what I want to be using. Looking forward to putting these in my rig. Almost went for a farfisa mini compact but I have decided to use the sampler to emulate one until I get myself a yamaha yc20. 
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 17, 2014, 04:19:45 PM
Sounds like a solid base for some effects.  Run anything through that Big Sky in my above pic and it will sound good.  That Arp is kinda weird in how you program it.  Found this you might be interested in.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/neilvance/2261691336/sizes/l/in/photostream/
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on December 17, 2014, 07:22:41 PM
interesting. thanks man. I watched several demos of this thing and I feel like I am going to enjoy it. Just really wanted something with minimal bells and whistles, so I don't get lost in programming it. My first synth was a casio cz101 and it was a bitch to program. I still got some fun sounds out of it. I'll post an old recording sometime. Also had a cz1000 once that I got for practically free. should have kept it maybe, but I can't justify hoarding things unless I am using them.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on December 19, 2014, 10:00:39 PM
just bought a roland jx-3p, freshly refurbed for $450 shipped. Looking forward to delving into it! I used to own a juno 60, so this should get me back into that territory again. analog yay!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 19, 2014, 10:20:27 PM
There's one of those 1000p's here local for a Hundo. Just saw it on cl.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on December 20, 2014, 12:59:41 AM
cool. yeah I paid 75 for it on ebay. just over $100 shipped.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 20, 2014, 06:54:01 AM
I spent some time with mr sun ra. very interesting. that fucker put out as many albums as zappa did.
he is definitely some kind of avante garde jazz thing, but could he be one of the forefathers of the noise genre also?

when those guys get musical, it is pretty amazing. that seemingly random sax section grows on you after a while.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on December 21, 2014, 11:57:39 PM
welcome to free jazz.. its the heaviest music on the planet.. 
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on December 21, 2014, 11:58:53 PM
noise music is directly spun off of the avant jazz cats..
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 22, 2014, 07:46:46 AM
I have to spend even more time with them.  that catalog is huge and he went through so many phases/bands  the names of his bands are pretty funny. I worked the 70's era mostly hoping to see more from the middle of his run than either end.  I learned that listening to any one album doesn't really help with the next one. I only listened to 3 or 4 and sampled a few more for a couple minutes.


do you have any recommendations as to when his hottest streak was?  I can only compare to zappa and his 100+ albums. I tell people to start at albums that were from the 1970's, so I started sun ra there too heh. 
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on December 22, 2014, 05:48:17 PM
1968 to 1975 are the freak out years. thats my favorite stuff. probably can contribute that to miles davis breaking down traditional jazz with his electric period at the same time.
(http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0001/946/MI0001946398.jpg?partner=allrovi.com)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ATH53BQBL.jpg)
(http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0001/736/MI0001736060.jpg?partner=allrovi.com)
(http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/r/ra_sun~~~~~_outerspac_103b.jpg)

I personally have these in my collection. all great. id look for the live stuff. much of sun ras material can be painfully normal, but the good stuff is pure avant jazz freak out awesomeness..
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on December 22, 2014, 07:51:09 PM
yeah, I prefer the chants, 70's afro-vibe, and spaced out 60's stuff more than the big band era, but there's some nice material in all eras, as well as some so-so, imo. I actually tend to like some of the older versions better than the 70's, probably because the chick singing can be a little intense sometimes. I revere him for his motto: discipline and precision. I believe that even the freakout stuff is actually composed and directed, probably practiced to death. Seemingly random events are planned.

Listening to some of it, it almost seems as if he keeps the keys loose and jammy in a certain framework, but the winds and percussion are very precise. Kinda like the concept of a rock band with a really solid rhythm section and a freak out guitar player.

if you wake up now.....it might not be too late.

space is the place.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on December 22, 2014, 08:32:08 PM
jib, when you've digested all the sun ra and electric period miles davis you can handle, youll be ready to graduate to alan silvas celestial communication orchestra. not for the weak..
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41XE7FNKSBL.jpg)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 22, 2014, 11:03:56 PM
my only defense to that might be a Morton Subotnik "Silver Apples on the Moon" gambit. you have to be stoked to get through that journey too.

but yeah, i'll link what I am checking out in a new sun ra thread in general.  this may take a while.  that guy seems more and more like zappa. every squeak and silly noise in zappa's songs were written in the score also.
what's it like to be a couple hundred IQ points beyond everyone else?   maybe those 2 were it.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 30, 2014, 02:49:08 PM
Any of you guys have one of these?

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 30, 2014, 03:58:07 PM
I've got approx. 8 pieces of gear that do that.  So yes.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 30, 2014, 04:03:32 PM
heh, rager I was just going to post :well yes and no.

that is what is  called sample and hold.
the rest is envelope/filtering/portamento/eq/a ring modulator and some time based effects like reverb

the basics of analog synths.

edit: I liked all the modules "effecting" that little S&H box.  cool stage shit for sure.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on December 31, 2014, 07:05:17 AM
I hope korg does put out a nice re-creation of the ARP Odyssey.
I still am PO'd at myself for not just boxing it up and packing it away vs selling it.
but wtf. that was way long time ago so different priorities at the time I guess. still not pleased at the decision tho.

maybe I can find some info. I would like that synth back again, and if korg can digitize the tuning section and leave the analog path like the original, that's what i want.   I think there is debate over which filter circuit to use or something. several very revered filter designs are in the mix or w/e.
so we'll see.

this guy gives an odyssey a pretty good workout in the video there



they said in sept they were shipping early 2015, wtf that means
also korg is shipping that little volca samples thing supposedly in January too.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on December 31, 2014, 02:32:30 PM
First off, I abso-love Olo's demos.  Thee fucking best no nonsense no talkey demos. 

Secondly, yes you are an idiot for sell your Arp.  As much an idiot as I am for selling my Taurus 1's. hurrrrrr!  Still kick myself.

Thirdly, I remember Korg saying something about unleashing it Jan. 22 which is the opening of NAMM.  Unveiling? Yes.  Shipping?  Not likely.

Fourthly, Beringer has threatened to get into the analog synth game stating with mono's and talking of an Arp clone for $500.  Whaaaa???!!!  We'll see if they follow through with something decent that holds up longer than 6 months.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 02, 2015, 03:05:41 PM
Hey whaddaya know, Moog Sub37 in top 10 hardware synths of the year. ;D  duh
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: tombhex on January 02, 2015, 05:20:15 PM
Quote from: RAGER on December 31, 2014, 02:32:30 PM
Fourthly, Beringer has threatened to get into the analog synth game stating with mono's and talking of an Arp clone for $500.  Whaaaa???!!!  We'll see if they follow through with something decent that holds up longer than 6 months.

Frankly, if it came out and sounded great I'd take the risk and buy it. I have a few friends who have had Bugera (Behringer tube) heads that sound really great. Only about half of them literally started on fire while being played between about 2006 and now.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 02, 2015, 10:41:58 PM
I did some looking on behringer's website. they are a year+ out on their synths, but if they do what they are hinting at, they are going to bum some other folks out.
i'll be watching.

sweetwater has all the Pittsburgh modular stuff now.  

that sub 37 is a killer piece. actually it is a new place for moog.  I wonder how long those older way too expensive moogs are going to hang around.

I have to get an organ style pedalboard for bass that really moves. there is no way that 12-step can be played for bass. that thing is more a pad controller.

my use for the 12-step right now is to figure out how to make a decent imitation of a mellotron and play those long mellotron notes on it, while I play the piano part up top to play the song "changes". I am going to try to generate 3 violin/string section sounds from the dx7, the kawaii kr-4 module and the boss GM module and send each one through its own set of effects to try to get them all to gently float in and out of tune and maybe warble one of them a little etc.  if I get this dialed in, it should be pretty special. the korg piano patch has a combo with some strings too. and the korg has a nice reverb section, so I don't need to effect it externally.
The whole shebang should be phatt as phuck

edit: I am really appreciating this mixer now.  I don't have to go apeshit with the wiring to make that setup happen. just different aux out settings, done.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 03, 2015, 02:14:27 PM
I've been really milling around the synthesizers.com site lately.  I really think this year I will be getting into modular.  I will go the MU route as opposed to eurorack.  I can always go with different sequencers in lieu of the Moog style.  I really like the Oberkorn.  I digress.  Dot com has a fucking ridiculous plan of getting just about anybody into modulars that want to.  It's an entry 2 osc. system capable of up to 22 spaces in a 48" case but comes with 8 basic modules and some patch cables.  They set it up so you pay $155 a month until it's done.  Case first to stylize how you want, then power supply, then a module and so on for 11 months.  You can pay more and get shit faster or even skip 3 months if times are rough.  Thinking about doing this so I can customize my own.  Fuck yes!

Besides that they have some entry level systems for about $1300 and up.

http://www.synthesizers.com/system-entry2.html

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on January 03, 2015, 06:28:15 PM
that sounds pretty good. I might buy a couple of modules like filters and an osc or two at some point, but I have plenty of stuff to keep me making music with right now.

Here's my main key rig now. I finally completed the trade with my friend for this yamaha cs-15, so it's officially mine. Easily the centerpiece of my whole sonic rig. The Roland arrived the other day and it's quite a fun toy too. It nails the organ/elec piano/synth I was hoping to find. Cost me under $500, which was pushing my budget, but it's totally programmable while remaining simple. The casio 1000p has also turned out to be pretty damn nice for what it does, but I don't think I will gig with it when I have the roland. Got the sweet stand for $60, and it's a pleasure to use. It's one of these two tier pro stands.

(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/l/t1.0-9/10420294_10204251432858651_8150558008868822805_n.jpg?oh=d6c099b9acf8a3bdaa3abfb08978e6da&oe=552D2A0C)

The akai sampler is nice, but it does glitch out sometimes. It seems to forget what LOOP means and when I load a set of samples into it (called a kit), not only does it take almost 2 minutes to load, but I have to change the trigger setting back and forth before it takes proper effect and loops or one-shots as programmed. It's also too easy to accidentally hit the knob that reverts back to some other kit. Then you have to reload the kit you which takes another 2 minutes. Pain in the ass and needs a firmware update to fix those issues. It should have an "are you sure?" popup when you try to inadvertently switch kits. It is fun as hell to play finger drums on it though. Comes loaded with some 808 and 909 drum sounds and the pads are very nice and velocity sensitive.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 03, 2015, 08:43:56 PM
You've got some cool stuff there dude.  I'm totally in love with those CS-15's.  I would love to have one.  I've seen the 5 and the 10 here locally but they just don't do it for me but the 15, that's where the fun starts with those CS units.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on January 03, 2015, 11:35:40 PM
yeah, totally; cs15 then the 30.... that thing looks tits.

forgot to mention how well the minibrute fits in with these synths. It's a great piece of kit, as they say.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 04, 2015, 07:55:20 AM
very nice pile of stuff.  they even say that Yamaha is killer for bleeps and bloops because of the filter.
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is anyone else getting the feeling that it is always all about the filter? dave smith has his really famous filter out for sale alone $179
the hangup on the korg arp odyssey repro is which of the 3 yummy filters they want to use
behringer talks all 3 filters.
that Yamaha cs-15 is legendary because of the filters(ok and the routing is cool too)
and on and on...oberheim....moog......
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here, I linked this in general, but this is where it counts. I stumbled on this guy in Memphis in like 1977. we were just up there dicking around in Memphis one weekend (ole miss was about 80 miles away, so reasonable drive) and checked out a record store.  my buddy mike from kennet, MO bought "The Cosmic Jokers" youtube that shit. the this amazing rubberband sound going. he melted the tweeters out of his large advents with his sansui 120w/ch receiver. we all watched.
he grabbed it randomly based on the cover, so I grabbed a random badass looking album. this one. wow was I surprised at how cool it was. like the demon walter carlos.
Mort Garson.   100% giant modular moog like carlos and tomita and the synergy dude all had


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I just stumbled on this regarding the state of the art of moog albums in 1970. they have the sun ra purple moon album..., 12 dreams of dr sardonicus. I love that album. it is one of those perfect albums all songs are great, anyway I want to listen to all these albums now.   and howabout letting karma show me the way through sun ra folks  ah?  ah? ah? haha.

http://thomholmes.com/Noise_and_Notations/Noise_and_Notations_Blog/Entries/2013/1/14_The_Greatest_Moog_Albums_of_1970.html
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 06, 2015, 01:41:06 PM
Ok I'm off to the races......modularily speaking.  Just placed an order for the basic case and the first modules.  I'm fucked.
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Post by: tombhex on January 06, 2015, 01:45:06 PM
Quote from: RAGER on January 06, 2015, 01:41:06 PM
Ok I'm off to the races......modularily speaking.  Just placed an order for the basic case and the first modules.  I'm fucked.

I am so. fucking. excited. for these vids to roll in...
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 06, 2015, 01:53:02 PM
Imma need more patch cables :P  Like a lot more
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 07, 2015, 04:41:52 PM
I checked that synthesizer.com site out. cool toys. I was comparing pitsburgh to that place. the 2 seem quite similar.  I really know nothing about either.
if I win the lotto, I'll orderyou that biggest triple rack full of shit including filling the blank slot hahaha. shit. it's only like 16g's  way more worth it than a big harley


the Pittsburgh delay module looks righteous. $349 is a righteous price too.

my 12 step is getting smoother now that I have been stomping on it more. evidently even those need to break in a little.  the legato has a crazy pitch bend if you really push down. have to set midi in controllers on or wtf. one of my 3 modules is pitch bending and the other 2 are not heh.  I don't need the pitch bend so i'm not going into utility menus to set up midi for pitch bending unless I need it.

I am going to try to use my alesis drum machine as a sequencer. if I can set drum kits up which use different midi notes and just output the midi, maybe I can make long drum songs which will play like a sequencer via MIDI out.  if this is possible, I can make extremely long and complex sequences made of drum phrases and patterns.
plus I can still clock it from some master clock device like the beatstep.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 07, 2015, 04:42:40 PM
Ahh the E piano patch of the DX7.  Love it.  played through a Backstage Plus :P



had a couple of these laying around and they're reversible polarity so I have a sustain pedal for it.


(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_24621_zps2eece725.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_24621_zps2eece725.jpg.html)
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Post by: jibberish on January 07, 2015, 05:03:07 PM
there you go.

here is the famous dx-7 song:


edit: imitating a mellotron is not so easy. I may have to study exactly how they constructed those mellotron tapes. I think part of the spooky charm is that the tapes didn't quite run at the same speed and were all a hair out of tune.  I have very tiny increments on these lexicon pitch shifters but it still is sterile. I have to maybe try massive slow chorusing or vibrato, or whatever slowly changes the pitch over the pitch shift. idk..fun problem to work on tho.

edit: maybe cheat and scavenge mellotron samples and get one of those volca samples for $159 and just load it up with those.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on January 08, 2015, 12:40:58 AM
Quote from: RAGER on January 07, 2015, 04:42:40 PM
Ahh the E piano patch of the DX7.  Love it.  played through a Backstage Plus :P



had a couple of these laying around and they're reversible polarity so I have a sustain pedal for it.


(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_24621_zps2eece725.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_24621_zps2eece725.jpg.html)

oh rager, you sweet lil' ol' romantic.
that minor blues walkdown/my funny valentine ass piece has me throwing my panties at you.
stay classy.
seriously, that was MAD cool man. 
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 08, 2015, 02:21:14 PM
Funny how a progression will get into your head and you play something without even really knowing it.  I was thinking I was playing more like a Vangelis Blade Runner love scene. :D

Most people listen to some chill music or some nice jazz like Bill Evans stuff over coffee in the morning while getting ready for work.  Not me.  Had my Maximal Drone going and hitting random keys on my DX7 through a delay as I walk by once in a while.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: black on January 08, 2015, 04:19:27 PM
So as I've been watching this thread progress, I keep wondering; do you cats that have multiple synths and keyboards and gizmo boxes ever run all the instruments at the same time? I don't mean just hitting all the buttons and letting things go nuts. I mean do you get to the point where you can manipulate all your gear, simultaneously for a composition, or is it just liking having multiple options that differ from instrument to instrument?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 08, 2015, 04:26:36 PM
Just depends on the moment.  I don't really do compositions because I don't like that much structure and let's face it, I'm not really sure how to do that anyways :D.  But yes sometimes I like all the shit going at once to create a cacophony of noise wall.  Other times I'll stack 3 different synths onto one controller to get a really layered sound out of just hitting one key while having a neat little sequence going on another synth being filtered or delayed.  That possibly might be midi synced with a drum machine although it might not be playing a drum beat in a classic sense, just something beat driven that is clocked. 
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Post by: eyeprod on January 08, 2015, 05:02:55 PM
I have most of my stuff on and set up to use if I want. I'm going through a mixing board to allow for a simple stereo setup with my half stacks, so it's easy to have everything available. I am into slow and thoughtful manipulation of my synths and gizmos, so I make it a point not to blast it all at once chaotically. More like a drone on one device, a synth (or two) ready for effects and filter sweeps, a sampler with pre-made synth blasts to use as one shots or maybe loops, a traditional keyboard always at the ready for organ or piano type sounds, and maybe a specific sound/tone set up on another synth now that I have one with memory. The thing with a lot of players is to have multiple synths set up with specific sounds, but mainly the player uses one at a time, maybe two. I use variations on those themes, but it's always real playing and tasteful transitions. The most automation I like to use is an arpeggiator (you still have to play the chord you want) and now my roland has a pretty cool and easy to use sequencer, but these things still have to be programmed or otherwise manipulated on the fly. At least that's how I do it. The most pre-prep I do is record samples in different keys that I use, and now with the roland I have programmed all my own patches as I do not generally care to use presets.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on January 08, 2015, 05:50:03 PM
here's a little test of the jx3p. I don't know if this has any value, but it might be mildly interesting to hear it. First vid on my new phone, so just a test. I think I used the sequencer to play along with.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 08, 2015, 06:07:05 PM
Quote from: black on January 08, 2015, 04:19:27 PM
So as I've been watching this thread progress, I keep wondering; do you cats that have multiple synths and keyboards and gizmo boxes ever run all the instruments at the same time? I don't mean just hitting all the buttons and letting things go nuts. I mean do you get to the point where you can manipulate all your gear, simultaneously for a composition, or is it just liking having multiple options that differ from instrument to instrument?

my wall of sound goal is to do just that: get the whole works going. I am sorting out my controller situation right now.  looking to get a foot pedalboard like on an organ.
then I will have that+12 step foot controller +sustain pedals + 2 keyboards to run all the other stuff from. I still will need a couple of 1 x 4 MIDI splitter boxes to send timing info to synch up all modules.
I spent an entire year putting together my sound system to handle a huge wall of sound (4000w continuous and up to 14 channels), 6 effects engines, and  4-buss mixers for tricky routing and semi-360 degree sound.

the doktor death's "circle of death" will become a reality some day soon.

my playing is more performance of pieces. I will however have a bleep-bloop setup for raw synth sounds because it is big fun. and that's where you need a toy box full of stuff to put together the sound desired for the day. the idea of modular synths is to wire up different combos of stuff in unique ways for unique sounds so it's more like a tinker toy or lego set. the more different pieces you have, the more crazy sounds you can build with different combos of stuff.

just be careful. it is so easy to get sucked into this.  I may need to check in to the betty moog clinic pretty soon myself. they have a nationwide apb out on rager
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 08, 2015, 06:08:55 PM
Quote from: eyeprod on January 08, 2015, 05:50:03 PM
here's a little test of the jx3p. I don't know if this has any value, but it might be mildly interesting to hear it. First vid on my new phone, so just a test. I think I used the sequencer to play along with.



every gear demo vid has value to me. I get to play that piece without even having that piece.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: black on January 09, 2015, 10:14:41 AM
Thanks for those answers, gentleman. I appreciate the insight.
Since this thread started up I find myself listening more for synths in all sorts of music.
As far as GAS/gear goes, they seem like they would be a blast.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 09, 2015, 05:45:18 PM
Ok here's the skinny on the ARP Odyssey from a dude in a synth group I'm on.

So for those of you waiting on some information regarding the Korg ARP Odyssey... I have a source at a little indie synth shop (not here in Portland) who confirmed what is also being shown on the JRRshop website - that Korg sent out an official email today to all the retailers with allocation numbers and this is what my source said:
The independent shops will get the Korg ARP Odyssey first, in the Mark III color (Black and Orange) priced at $999, full length keys but narrower(?) and then Guitar Center and their partners will get their Odyssey but in the Mark II colors (Black and Gold) and then Sweetwater which will have the Mark I color (White Faced.)
All of this will be shown at NAMM. Release dates still pending, but my source says, the indie shops should get the black and orange Odyssey reissue within 30 days of NAMM.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on January 09, 2015, 06:10:25 PM
that's probably solid info.

It's cool that they're making them again, but on the other hand the cool factor goes way down when they are mass produced like that. That was one of the synths on my bucket list, but now I'm not so sure. All the edm dorks will have them now. Reissue an EMS and I might change my tune, but I'd much rather see manufacturers taking Arturias example and start making more low cost analog synths that are original, based on classic gear.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 09, 2015, 06:41:57 PM
Yeah I see what you're saying.  Pretty cool but I'm not wetting myself over this like I was the Sub 37.  The Odyssey's are pretty gritty but so is my Minibrute so yeah.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 11, 2015, 08:02:55 AM
I had a white-faced version, so I guess I would have to wait for sweetwater heh.

seriously though $1000 is most of the way there to a sub37. that sub 37 is in another league.

the odyssey was a 2 oscillator deal. you could either play 2 notes or combine the oscillators for a fatter sound
the feedback , ring mod and noise were a trip.  the Frankenstein thing was pretty easy to mimic.
mine was about a G brand new shipped wtf.  so I think that price is too high for what it is.

if behringer lands at $500 and does a good job, that is where the odyssey belongs pricewise.
you can get a mophox4 for a grand and that thing will kill the odyssey

I think the comparison to brutes is a good one. basic layout:  osc-filters-envelope and out
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 12, 2015, 12:03:39 PM
First jam in about a month with my drummer bud yesterday.  Gear used.  See below

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_24641_zps8dca7725.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_24641_zps8dca7725.jpg.html)
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_24651_zps21243fc0.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_24651_zps21243fc0.jpg.html)
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_24661_zps398ab10e.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_24661_zps398ab10e.jpg.html)

Results. Loud and distorted.  Never mind beyond 6:27.  I'm an idiot.  I'll fix it later....maybe.

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/rager-1/rager-and-mark-synthdrum[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 12, 2015, 01:48:37 PM
that was great. the organ sounding stuff around 3 minutes or so was really outstanding how that all worked together.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 13, 2015, 10:53:12 AM
Cool thanks. That 3 min mark was the Waldorf Rocket. I have that blended with the Se 1 on a controller all going through the Big Sky on cloud reverb. At that point I dialed down the se 1. I used the 12 step to control the sub 37 with my foot while twiddling the cut off Nd my right on the Waldorf se 1 and micron or mini brute.

That room is only 10 x 12 or so. It was crazy loud. I will set the H4 to low input next weekend and hopefully won't be so distorted.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: neighbor664 on January 14, 2015, 10:08:11 AM
http://abc7news.com/472581
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 14, 2015, 10:38:31 AM
I just read about that place yesterday. Next time I'm in the Bay Area imma stop in there.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on January 14, 2015, 11:50:59 AM
sounded cool, but is it the same jam repeated? Working on writing a song? Your friend is a tight drummer.

here's our first jam of the new year with new gear. my friend got a volca beats and I used my new synths. We've almost got a name, but still kicking around ideas for one. I still have an hour or so of material to go over from this night.

[cloudset]https://soundcloud.com/rtrippz/sets/1-12-2015[/cloudset]
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 14, 2015, 04:04:17 PM
Quote from: eyeprod on January 14, 2015, 11:50:59 AM
sounded cool, but is it the same jam repeated? Working on writing a song? Your friend is a tight drummer.

Yep because that's what happens when I try to get involved with a daw and then try to upload to souncloud.  Derp.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 14, 2015, 07:24:25 PM
Eyeprod, what's your recording technique?  A little live effects and then run everything back through a reverb?  Sounds pretty good.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on January 14, 2015, 09:02:09 PM
Thanks man. I think it sounds really good, but the key to our sound is definitely low volume. That's evidently the only way to play subtly and also capture that sound in a recording. Too loud and it's pretty much impossible; turns into a volume battle and all subtleties are lost.

I've got my deluxe memory man in the fx loop on the little mixing board we use. That is working on all channels, except for the one Cody plugs his synth rig into, since he uses his own delay. Then the two main amps (concert lead and acoustic 150) both have reverb which is most of what you hear. They (EDIT: reverbs) are both at max setting. All synths, vocals and the sampler are going through those amps. In reaper I use a reverb plug-in on the overhead mic and the room mic, which are both condensers. This last session I did use a heavier reverb setting on the room mic than I normally do. I add a touch of stereo delay to the left and right stereo mix channels. I pan those pretty hard left and right, but I like to fill out the mix with that touch of stereo effect. Bass rig is not miked, though I plan to change that for more low-end control, and there's two guitar amps with their own reverb and effects that are miked closely. I usually don't add anything to those channels in reaper, but sometimes I give Cody's guitar a little stereo delay action since he's typically panned way over to the right.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 15, 2015, 03:05:06 AM
that sound is coming along. I ran this set instead of the chill out youtubes I usually put on when i'm working on stuff.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 19, 2015, 01:37:02 PM
Something came in the post this morn.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_24801_zps3fba0959.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_24801_zps3fba0959.jpg.html)

Ah yes.  A hint.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_24811_zps61492f40.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_24811_zps61492f40.jpg.html)

Packed up nicely
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_24821_zpsd6545274.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_24821_zpsd6545274.jpg.html)

Case and power supply.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_24831_zpsb8e1ee05.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_24831_zpsb8e1ee05.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on January 20, 2015, 12:02:48 AM
is it plugged in yet!?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 20, 2015, 07:50:38 AM
I was poking around on the Pittsburgh modular site
(i'm kind of wanting that new delay module they made. 2 of those nice bucket brigade chips and other crazy shit for $350, but that's another story heh).

their power supplies in their cases are +12v/-12v/+5v   wtf? that is exactly what a PC power supply is set up for. you could use 2 for the opposite 12v taps. <$100 = 1kw power supply.

I couldn't quickly find numbers at synthesizer.com but I was wondering, do they use a similar power convention?
or are modules the wild wild west and you get as many power configurations as you do brands of modular(and wow are they coming out of the woodwork these days , I cant fucking keep up)

if there is some kind of convention, I could maybe design hacked PC power supply module supplies that kill everything at that price point.  pc supplies are made by the millions. you get way more tech in those for the dollar than you do from handbuilt shit. js.  they even have fans built in.  you jump 2 pins on the main connector and it turns on. so a simple single pole on-off switch is all you need, double pole if you had 2 supplies for the 24v rail-to-rail spread


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regarding racks
i'm envisioning some kind of shorty, I guess an 11 space rack, interlocking, made of acrylic for making a modular stack.  I would also just make one 11 space box into the utility box with all the comms+power in there.

now here's how my twisted brain works..."what kind of stupid little jewelry box or maybe electrical box or maybe doo-dad box is about the right size for maybe 2-4 spaces of module. something that costs like a buck or 2

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heh   so I COULD just buy an oscillator from s com and make noise right out of the chute.  I don't need no stinkin furniture haha. I haz duct tape.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 20, 2015, 01:11:07 PM
I keep thinking about power supplies now. along with clamping diodes for overvoltage or polarity reversal, you could actually use a zener as an undervoltage eliminator too.
often shit really fucks up when it gets undervoltaged and goes into grey state. it would be better to just be turned off once it drops to a certain minimum level as set by the zener value, like 9v or 10 or w/e is still safe.

you could run twin USB 5v supplies through a beefy diode for a .7v drop for nice 9v supplies actually. 5v is 5v from the usb supplies stock...

picture a box full of all this crap with one plug to the wall outlet and a huge selection of various voltage taps somewhat customized for the particular pile of shit one has.
you could run various power busses around the gear circle with parallel taps off that thing, or just a giant octopus of taps centrally located from the main unit or both. put whatever ends are needed for that setup.  none of this shit uses big juice or causes reactive woes like motors. all civilized wall wart stuff.  I would love to lose about 15 assorted individual power supplies, and I only see this problem growing as I get more crap.

may as well set it up to run modulars too wtf.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 20, 2015, 01:34:44 PM
Specs on said power supply and harness.

http://www.synthesizers.com/qps1.html

http://www.synthesizers.com/qdh.html
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on January 20, 2015, 02:16:22 PM
Is that a modular case?  :o

How many spaces in there, and how many people does it take to carry it when it's loaded?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 20, 2015, 02:18:48 PM
22 space rack.  Not sure how much it'll weigh.  After it's full I'll start in on the second one.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on January 20, 2015, 02:20:02 PM
Wouldn't you rather have like three 8 space racks? (I have no idea).
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 20, 2015, 02:52:15 PM
That's no way to start a WALL.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on January 20, 2015, 03:43:49 PM
I just imagine that carrying that rack up and down staircases will be an adventure, or through tight turns, landings and stairwells etc. It's like 12 feet long?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 20, 2015, 03:50:19 PM
 :D  It's only 4'.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on January 20, 2015, 06:32:11 PM
Personally, I'd go portable suitcase style. Keep it portable and modular, since there's no reason to have so many modules in one case.

Wall is not very portable, but surely will look awesome!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 20, 2015, 09:50:19 PM
that thing looks nice. also, there is nothing stopping rager from getting different road cases for IF he goes on the road and that ends up being too much to easily handle.
the pittsburgh modular has beautiful road cases which differ from the studio cases.  modular=nothing is permanent

that being said, my first thought was a rack half that length too.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 21, 2015, 10:08:07 AM
It will be a rare occasion if at all I bring out the modular to a venue. If it gets to playing again for me it will be with other gear.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 22, 2015, 01:32:44 PM
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2015/01/22/dav-smith-intros-state-of-the-art-vintage-sequential-circuits-prophet-6/
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on January 22, 2015, 01:49:55 PM
Your link was acting weird, but here's the video for it...

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 22, 2015, 02:15:31 PM
I am a total sucker for dave smith stuff, but you know what,  I don't feel anything really crazy new here.  that is such nice sounding gear.
I would still rather have a prophet 12
UNLESS this thing is at a crazy low price, then I would want it as the first DS synth I got.  I need some kind of lotto drawing in my favor to score that prophet 12

the more I look, the more I think that sub37 is still the best pile of synth you can get at the $1500-ish price point as of right now. seriously.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 24, 2015, 01:19:19 PM
Jam this morning before work with the Mini Brute, DX7, and Big Sky.  Vangelis influenced.


Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 24, 2015, 04:13:36 PM
yeah, I don't think there is any point in making vids of my practice songs.
I might do up "O Holy Night" for spook though. it is sounding better than I thought it would. I bet he would like that.
I have 2 original practice pieces cooking. maybe i'll video one of those, or not heh.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 24, 2015, 04:46:24 PM
Quote from: jibberish on January 24, 2015, 04:13:36 PM
yeah, I don't think there is any point in making vids of my practice songs.

Why do you say that?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 24, 2015, 05:13:09 PM
I was referring to the xmas carols.  I use those because I know the phrasing cold, so they are good for working on techniques.
like a ragtime arrangement of rockin round the xmas tree. I cooked that up to really bust my left hand free of my right, but meh to have to listen to that.
that's what I mean.

my original songs I would record if I like where they end up. I record jams because you never know what is going to happen.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 26, 2015, 01:10:46 PM
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/technojohn_zps215b53b3.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/technojohn_zps215b53b3.jpg.html)
 
So the guy on the right was over at my place the other night.  We've know each other for about 30 years.  He was the singer in my drummers very first metal band back in the day.  I am not into what he's doing musically at all now but he is a full on synth nerd that owns and has owned some pretty killer gear.  He's  been doing electronic music for a long time so he knows the logistics pretty well.  Had him over to help me out with some stuff and answer some questions.  Nice guy but what a goofy thing he's got going.  At least to me.  They have a following I guess so there's that......
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on January 26, 2015, 08:18:36 PM
Kinda fruity but also kinda interesting. Probably sounds horrible. I like custom outfits, but am not really into spectacle these days. This looks like glam techno or some shit.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on January 27, 2015, 01:28:20 AM
Quote from: RAGER on January 20, 2015, 03:50:19 PM
:D  It's only 4'.

you flatter my urethra rager my friend.

but seriously, i've been watching your synth collection grow and love what you've done with the rig and the vids you've thrown up here man.
very, very cool.
haven't touched my synths in a while... long hours of work, family stuff, playing guitar in a band. bummed about it. so bummed i've been considering selling my sub phatty. that's a bad frame of mind to be in.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 27, 2015, 06:12:12 AM
stick with this thread, you will be stoked to dust that puppy off before you know it.
get a used beatstep and throw sequences into your music.  moogs sound great.
accidentally buy a big sky.......
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 28, 2015, 05:27:54 AM
here is a pretty decent song to work on separating your left hand from the right on keyboards.

the spinning song.  I would call it advanced beginner when played at speed, but it is relaxed played 1/2 speed. it's a 1-2 beat anyway and the bass just pounds away all 8th notes on just 2 notes at a time.

this let's you focus more on only the right hand and left rhythm vs moving the left hand too.
it's just the 1st page. play the 2 parts over and over just as a dexterity exercise.  but it kind of cooks for horseshit classical music. I try to blaze through it as fast as I can.
maybe I will find the rest of it, but probably not. this is about all I can take heh.

http://cloud.freehandmusic.netdna-cdn.com/preview/530x4/warner/elspinne.png
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on January 29, 2015, 02:41:56 PM
that's a good idea to post links to learning tips etc.

The thing that I've noticed over the years about keyboard players is that most of them have learned shitty styles, which form the basis for their sound. I have probably never jammed with a keyboard guy who was actually fun to play with and sounded good. Sure, some of them can actually play piano and whatnot, but it's like jamming with a guitarist who learned to play by covering chili peppers songs or something equally lame, imo. The whole right hand/left hand thing is great to know, but it also leads to some godawful styles of keyboard based music. I am very careful about what I attempt to learn when it comes to playing keys because I don't want to learn any techniques that will kill my natural style. It can be difficult to find the right kind of lesson that you need, no matter what instrument you're learning.

The other thing I find disturbing is how so many keyboard folks are clueless about synthesizing their own sounds and rely on presets. You know, the guy who has the expensive, cool gear and only uses the preset sounds....embarrassing! Then there's the great player who makes his/her own sounds but those sounds are horrific. Such a waste of good gear. I've heard many a pro who has awful tone. I guess it's the same with guitars.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 30, 2015, 01:32:08 AM
i guess it was good to have classical piano type lessons. that teaches basic technique. there is no jamming.
just rote learning. so you walk into the world with no style, just technique.

i was noticing that in most cases of what keyboard parts for rock songs i have looked at, they are not piano compositions.
they look like the bass player wrote them.  probably by ear off the chords.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 30, 2015, 07:57:41 AM
here is a practice thing that came out pretty cool even tho I messed up the left hand about a dozen times.
the game was to mimic emerson and play an endless pattern w/left hand, then jam over top.
jamming forces thinking, so no muscle memory cheating. I pushed myself on this round, but this is definitely the prototype for a bolero or something.

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/doktordeath/idea4jbolero1amp[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 30, 2015, 02:33:54 PM
Stuff going on.

*I have modules showing up and Saturday
*My Dual mode ladder filter box should be done in the next day or so
*I think an Octatrack is in my near future
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 30, 2015, 11:36:42 PM
I keep looking at all that electron crap FUCK SPELLCHECK

how do I turn this shit off?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 31, 2015, 12:13:17 AM
Fuck it. Octatrack is in my future. About a week away shipping wise.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: jibberish on January 31, 2015, 12:40:59 AM
that elektron stuff is in almost every nice performance setup.   I think the octatrack will be a killer piece

I have been really thinking hard on how I want to integrate and control all my stuff.
beyond an organ style foot pedalboard I am getting more unsure by the day, especially with the new things coming out

I definitely am having issues on the general category of sequencing

on one hand, a pc can create any and all sequences, but I don't want a pc-centered rig either.
on the other hand.  one 16 step sequence isn't going to get me through many songs so I am looking at more sophisticated sequencers
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Beta Cloud on January 31, 2015, 12:58:41 AM
Quote from: RAGER on January 31, 2015, 12:13:17 AM
Fuck it. Octatrack is in my future. About a week away shipping wise.

the wendy carlos doom machine is exponentiating nicely!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on January 31, 2015, 12:29:48 PM
I've been eyeballing that Elektron stuff since I got into this mess but I never thought I deserved that kinda gear.  But I think this will solve many logistical problems I'm having with doing all this shit freestyle live with a drummer.  Factor in that I'm very new to this so...sloppy it is most of the time which ain't cool live.  If it's just me that's another story.  Shit can get free flow and freaky, but with a drummer it's gotta be tight.  I've walked on bands as the drummer cuz they couldn't reel shit in.  If shit's off they always wanna blame the  drummer.  Fuck that noise.  He ain;t havin' it.  I understand.

Anyways, I've been looking into Cirklon, Oberkorn, Beatstep Pro, Engine, Seq 12, Doepfer, and a couple others but I really think Octatrack is it.  I may still end up with the Dot com Q960 or the Oberkorn in the future but for now and live shit it's Octatrack.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 02, 2015, 09:33:23 AM
Well. Looks like its pretty much just you and me Robert. They fired Jib yesterday.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on February 02, 2015, 10:23:58 AM
I thought it might be coming. good luck to him.


here's a little demo of some sampler methods I'm using. I make the sounds on my synths, then set em up to play in loops, or like percussion. It's pretty fun.



here's another with different samples.



Probably will use some of these ideas for my rpm challenge.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 03, 2015, 01:11:19 PM
Retro Mechanical Labs Jekyll and Hyde dual mode ladder filter.  Nice lfo and self oscillates too.

I went and picked it up on Sunday but he had it all packed up nicely.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_25041_zps80c51f07.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_25041_zps80c51f07.jpg.html)


Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 03, 2015, 01:47:39 PM
Got a couple of the first modules the other day too.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_25001_zpse0374b07.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_25001_zpse0374b07.jpg.html)

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_25011_zps60a0ff2a.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_25011_zps60a0ff2a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on February 03, 2015, 02:17:25 PM
cool, but what boring modules to get first! I'm sure you have some more interesting ones coming.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 03, 2015, 02:50:39 PM
I know :D  They send you the boring shit first.  The next ones will be 2 oscillators and a multiple module which is basically a small patching station to connect multiple things together through one signal.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: MichaelZodiac on February 04, 2015, 03:55:56 PM
So if I want a nice sounding drum computer around 500 bucks what should I go for? I'm thinking of getting one. I want to be able to make more music at home and maybe different sounding than my current band. I figured just to get a Micro or Minibrute for synth sounds but don't really know if there are alternatives in that price range for that?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on February 04, 2015, 04:31:23 PM
The volca beats seems pretty good for the price, but it's analog drum sounds (synthesized and electronic sounding), so depending on what you want as far as drum sounds go, you may want to research some stuff in your price range. If you want real sounding drums, that will be sampled drums and there are machines that offer that specifically. Check out alesis stuff.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 04, 2015, 04:41:17 PM
Maybe look into a korg emx-1 or yeah what eyeprod aid about alesis or the Arturia Spaakrk.  I'm also a big fan of mini/micro brute.  I have both.  For that range people seem to dig the Novation Bass Station II also.  I also recently got an Akai Rhythm Wolf for cheap.  Not the best but can be useful with some effects and filtering.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: MichaelZodiac on February 05, 2015, 03:55:26 PM
Yeah, apparently either the Volca Beats or the MFB 522 from what I've been reading are definitely the sort of thing I'm after. Easy access into a DAW is also much appreciated, although not depending on the DAW to work. The video I saw from the Arturia Spark, it seemed to be hooked up to a laptop always which isn't what I really want.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 05, 2015, 04:08:48 PM
Maybe the new Electribe.  Most of the time people have their shit hooked up to laptop to run Ableton or something but that isn't always necessary.  Electribes run fine as a stand alone unit.  I'm getting an Octatrack sometime this weekend because it it like Ableton in a box.  No need for laptops.  I do not want a laptop on stage.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: MichaelZodiac on February 05, 2015, 04:31:05 PM
I'm not even thinking about live stuff yet. I just know I need something that produces beats that I can program myself without a computer, planning on traveling quite a lot in the near future and so portability is definitely a plus. If I get a nice beat, I'd just quickly record it, play bass over it and put synth over it. That's the plan anyway.

The Akai seemed on paper to be a thing that would be perfect but the reviews are scary and not in a good way.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 05, 2015, 04:47:48 PM
I know.  I've read all those reviews but what you have to look at is the cost.  It is not a Vermona or a Tanzabar.  It's less than $200 and can be useful with some effects.  The drums and bass synth have separate outs which is cool.  The volca beats is cool to but not the same thing and not as tweakable  I don't think.  Not sure cuz I don't have one.  I have a Monotribe though and I use it rarely.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 05, 2015, 04:49:27 PM
Man if you could swing an Octatrack, that right there is the shit.  Just sample stuff wherever you are and turn it into songs.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: tombhex on February 06, 2015, 12:53:26 PM
Quote from: MichaelZodiac on February 05, 2015, 04:31:05 PM
I'm not even thinking about live stuff yet. I just know I need something that produces beats that I can program myself without a computer, planning on traveling quite a lot in the near future and so portability is definitely a plus. If I get a nice beat, I'd just quickly record it, play bass over it and put synth over it. That's the plan anyway.

The Akai seemed on paper to be a thing that would be perfect but the reviews are scary and not in a good way.

I've been looking for the same functionality you are recently and I've got my sights set on either the Electribe (http://www.korg.com/us/products/dj/electribe/) or the Volca sample (http://www.korg.com/us/products/dj/volca_sample/).

The VolcaSample seems to have almost all the functionality of the VolcaBeats with individual sounds, TB303-style bass generation (youtube is full of people showing how to do this) and the ability to do field recording of samples using an iPhone/iPad app that's free and integrates really easily. I think my old lady is planning on one of these for my birthday gift this year, but if that's not the case I'm just going to buy an Electribe.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 06, 2015, 04:11:10 PM
Stumbled onto this site.  I'm sure there's a bunch of them cuz this stuff is part of everything you see and hear media wise.  Be kinda cool to upload some tracks, totally forget that you've done it, and then later get an email that says somebody is using parts of your tune in an action sequence between a honey badger and cobra for a nature documentary and here's your 50 cents.

http://www.ubm-media.com/musiclibrary/ubm/ubm%202223/
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 10, 2015, 12:51:45 PM
Got my Elektron Octatrack. Having a lot of fun with it so far but it's pretty deep so it's gonna be a bit before I totally get my head around this thing.

Bought it from B&H because Jib had said good things about their customer service and had never bought anything from them before. They get a BIG FAT F- for their shipping and handling. When you're shipping something that is nearly $1500 you might want to put more than one of those blow up cushion things in the half ass taped up box you put the unit in so it doesn't bounce around inside like a fucking pinball when ups is handling your package with the utmost care. Good thing Elektron knows how to pack their equipment. B&H should take note of how Synthesizers.com packs their stuff. Very pro and near indestructible.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_25141_zpsc1d745d0.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_25141_zpsc1d745d0.jpg.html)

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on February 10, 2015, 05:37:29 PM
it's a very cool toy, but WAYYYY too expensive for what I would use it for.

My akai is working pretty good since they released a firmware update. Fixed some of the issues, thankfully. I was still having some problems with it, but I reformatted the SD card and that seems to have solved my problems (fingers crossed it doesn't glitch when I'm playing out). Made a bunch of cool samples for it using the CYNTHI vst, which is a pretty good clone.  The thing I really like about the akai is the mpc style pads which are velocity sensitive. So fun to play that thing with your fingers. I sampled bass tones and it plays easier than a real bass, especially when you only have one hand free. That octatrack looks great for sequencing, which is what the akai lacks. I do have dreams of one day using some kind of sequencer to run the akai with the drum/synth sounds I create. Enjoy!

What happened to the modular?? lol, is it working out?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 10, 2015, 06:42:52 PM
This is gonna help me with live stuff big time.  Just ordered two more modules.  I should be able to start making sounds with it soon.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 23, 2015, 12:42:09 AM
My girls says it sounds like a medical emergency downstairs in my studio sometimes.  I take that as a compliment.


/mortlock approved
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 24, 2015, 02:24:54 PM
Stoned jam the other night with my Moog, Micron, and Octatrack.

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/rager-1/somnambulance-chaser[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 24, 2015, 05:20:54 PM
Another from a couple weeks ago with some drums.

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/rager-1/trigonomotron[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on February 24, 2015, 07:26:49 PM
cool, I'll check em out later.

So my korg ds8 is up and running. Wouldn't save data and had some weird ass sounds coming out of it with strange characters and impossible settings, but that was fixed with a new battery. I actually used midi-ox software to load original patches into it and finally got that to work, but man were they godawful sounds. I'm in the process of creating my own and that's going pretty well. The thing about this synth is that it's evidently the easiest FM synth to program because they made the interface close to a subtractive synth. There's techincally no filter, which is weird. I thought the Casio CZ series was FM , but I learned that it is not FM but something similar. So this is my first FM synth. I read that the DX7 is really hard to program. What do you think of it, Rager?

This korg has some cool possibilities that my other synths don't have, which makes it a nice fit in my rig. For one, it's got a pitch envelope so you can make sounds change pitch over time. That alone is cool, but the other thing it has is you can specify start, peak, and end levels in the envelopes, which are usually fixed values in most synths I've ever used. It makes nice pads and "pianorgans", plus it will sustain for a really long time. Still getting used to it, but for $80 it's great.

The guy I bought it from turned out to be a synth geek too. Has a small modular among other awesome stuff, like a full array of moogerfoogers on a rack, piles of other random synths, and....a Prophet 5! I've invited him over to jam tonight with the band and it looks like he might be bringing the modular so that might be fun.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 24, 2015, 07:43:16 PM
Sounds like a good time.

Yes programming the DX7 is a bitch but I came up with a couple cool patches but didn't yet know how to save them and it needs a new battery which I don't know when I'll get around to doing that.  The most thing I use it for is the E Piano anyways.  We had a DS8 way back in a band I was in around 89-90.  Can't beat 80 bucks.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on February 24, 2015, 11:10:11 PM
theres another radio show I like along with ECHOES.. its called PIPE DREAMS. tons of awesome solo pipe organ heavy music. the real deal pipe organs in cathedrals and churches and shit. are there any good synths that can simulate that??

http://echoes.org/ (http://echoes.org/) 
http://pipedreams.publicradio.org/ (http://pipedreams.publicradio.org/)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on February 25, 2015, 02:32:52 AM
I don't know, but probably some modern digital synths can emulate a pipe organ pretty good. Seems like a sample based unit would be the best at it. They probably make some software synths that excel at it and are probably sample based. I can make a pipe organ sound, and a couple of my synths have presets for it, but I dunno, maybe you'd think it sounded laughable. As in, not really convincing. You'd probably need at least 4 oscillators to get close to a proper pipe organ sound.

So we had a mindblowing jam tonight. The synth guy didn't make it, but a couple of my older hippie friends came. One of them plays reeds and he brought a tenor clarinet along with some african drums. Got pretty weird, channeling some pharoah sanders, sun ra and shit.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on February 26, 2015, 03:46:08 PM
here's the recording of that jam the other night with my friend on clarinet. kinda jazzy, but not really.

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/rtrippz/2-24-2015-what-the-masters[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 27, 2015, 02:28:58 PM
Cool stuff.  Sounds like a good time.

Played an AIRA System 1 the other day.  Didn't spend much time with it cuz it felt so damn cheap.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on February 27, 2015, 03:29:14 PM
that's too bad. They look nice, even if I have no intention of buying one
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 27, 2015, 05:48:56 PM
I'd thought briefly about getting one a while back but that was fleeting.  I've got plenty of other gear that does similar stuff.  If I was gonna get another synth I think I'd go somewhat high end like an Analog Four or Dave Smith.  I got plenty of shit fight now.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on February 28, 2015, 12:57:39 AM
yeah, I've got five at the moment. I plan on keeping them all and picking up killer deals when I can, but it's going to be more about a really special one somewhere down the line. When I'm rich and can afford an EMS.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: tombhex on March 09, 2015, 03:55:12 PM
My old lady ended up giving me a Volca Sample for my birthday and I fucking love it. TR8 is off the table, this is the drum machine for me for the time being. It does exactly what I want and I love the process of replacing the samples with my own. It's the workflow that I've been hoping for.

(http://i.imgur.com/d1nhsJJ.jpg)

That being the case, I feel like I need something to plop down next to the MicroBrute for chords and whatnots. I like the idea of playing two different synths with different hands. My M-Audio Venom is a pile of shit and is basically a fancy midi controller at this point. I actually really liked the Aira System 1, and I wouldn't mind something a little more expensive or feature-crammed than the MicroBrute for my next piece. MicroKorg is snazzy but generic in my opinion, and I don't feel like I know enough about the Bass Station 2 to love it for more than the sound quality. I'm not going to run out and spend Moog money for a toy for the office, and I want a standalone. Anybody have any ideas outside of the MicroKorg, System 1, Bass Station 2 and the Micron (which I hate)? I don't mind mini keys. Edit: I don't hate the idea of the Minitaur either, but I feel like you're getting a very one-dimensional beast there for the price tag, less versatile than the MicroBrute from what I understand.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 10, 2015, 11:59:28 AM
Nice dude.  I've heard good things about it.  Might have to pick one up some day.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on March 10, 2015, 04:09:41 PM
No midi out is a big deal, imo. Why else would I want a sequencer except to have the option of running other devices? Still looks like a nice box. I see it has sync out. Basically seems like a sample based drum or bass unit, which is quite cool if you can get some good samples, or better yet make your own.

FYI, the microbrute can't play chords, as it's a monophonic synth, but if it's like the minibrute it can send polyphonic data via midi or usb. So, you can use it as a keyboard controller for another synth or module and can use it to play chords if that device is polyphonic.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on March 10, 2015, 09:56:27 PM
If you're looking for a polyphonic synth I would suggest getting something digital on the cheap, as in whatever you can get for around $200 or less at  the local pawnshop or CL. As long as it's an actual synth and is programmable, it can be a good opportunity to learn about synthesis and you can probably coax some decent enough keys and pad sounds out of just about anything. The alesis micron is a good little poly synth.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: tombhex on March 11, 2015, 10:17:28 AM
Quote from: eyeprod on March 10, 2015, 04:09:41 PM
No midi out is a big deal, imo. Why else would I want a sequencer except to have the option of running other devices? Still looks like a nice box. I see it has sync out. Basically seems like a sample based drum or bass unit, which is quite cool if you can get some good samples, or better yet make your own.

FYI, the microbrute can't play chords, as it's a monophonic synth, but if it's like the minibrute it can send polyphonic data via midi or usb. So, you can use it as a keyboard controller for another synth or module and can use it to play chords if that device is polyphonic.

I plan to use it as a standalone bass/drum deal, not to sequence anything else. Because of that, it's perfect for what I want. I really do like some of the stock sounds and the iphone-based sample loader, while less user-friendly than a desktop based app would be, is pretty smooth to use.

I know the MicroBrute can't play chords - that's why I want a synth to set next to it so I can play notes on each with each hand. I'm pushing myself to learn two-handed piano stuff anyway, because it's easy when you're fucking around with a noisebox in your office to just fingerbang with one hand and turn knobs with the other. I want to be more musical about it. I'd love to find a DX7 for cheap or something, but those little Novation boards are pretty sweet. I did some looking around yesterday on youtube. I was wondering if anyone had a hard preference on a Mopho or MS2000 or something because they're the step up from the Micro-tier.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 11, 2015, 12:30:58 PM
Curious what you don't like about the Micron.  From what I've read, the Micro Korg and MS 2000 share the same synth engine.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: tombhex on March 11, 2015, 02:35:41 PM
Quote from: RAGER on March 11, 2015, 12:30:58 PM
Curious what you don't like about the Micron.  From what I've read, the Micro Korg and MS 2000 share the same synth engine.

That's good to know re:MS2000. I just don't like a lot of the sounds I've been able to coax out of my friend's Micron and I don't like the form factor at all.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 11, 2015, 02:45:13 PM
Can you explain the form factor part?  Just curious.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on March 11, 2015, 09:42:20 PM
the alesis micron and the ion share the same engine. Or so I read. Both get high reviews, my band mate has a micron. I have never tried programming it.

I'm not sure about the ms to micro.

Yeah, i misunderstood you about the microbrute.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: tombhex on March 12, 2015, 10:16:51 AM
Quote from: RAGER on March 11, 2015, 02:45:13 PM
Can you explain the form factor part?  Just curious.

I hate the way it looks, the aluminum-ish casing (not sure if that's actually what it is) and display/interface design on it. Simply superficial. Aside from that, though, I've never had a chance to sit down with someone who owns one to really dig in, but what I've experienced from doodling around with them at Guitar Center for hours over the years didn't impress me. I'm not writing it off, and I'm sure it's capable of a lot - I just hate the look. I dislike it enough to try to avoid it in the same way that some people absolutely cannot get over pointy guitars no matter how awesome they play or sound.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: black on March 13, 2015, 11:52:17 AM
The Ladies, The Ladies..

http://femalepressure.tumblr.com/ (http://femalepressure.tumblr.com/)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 16, 2015, 12:22:46 PM
My modular is starting to take shape.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_25641_zpsjz5hdjmx.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_25641_zpsjz5hdjmx.jpg.html)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on March 17, 2015, 01:50:02 AM
looks good. fun times!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on March 17, 2015, 11:56:15 AM
Quote from: black on March 13, 2015, 11:52:17 AM
The Ladies, The Ladies..

http://femalepressure.tumblr.com/ (http://femalepressure.tumblr.com/)

Cool!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 17, 2015, 04:27:15 PM
Quote from: eyeprod on March 17, 2015, 01:50:02 AM
looks good. fun times!

I posted that picture on their synth forum and the damn owner of the company chimed in and told me what all I could do with just those modules.  Pretty cool of him.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on March 20, 2015, 03:38:52 AM
makes you feel like you made a good purchase!


So the three hour gig went well tonight. Two of us ate a small amount of shrooms. Worked out well, but I got pretty baked. Played for what felt like easily 90 minutes-- turned out to be about 50. Took a 30 minute break and played another hour or so. Chill experience. People hung out. Volume was about perfect. Had to squeeze up against a wall and leave room for people to get out the back door. Couldn't run both half stacks I brought, but did a 6x10 + 4x10 stack pointed at us. Two 100w amps for PA and bass..two combo amps for guitars. We had to leave out two synths, but used 4 and the space worked out really well. That was fun. Next gig is in april with Hedersleben, who were nik turner's Hawkwind on the last couple of tours he did recently.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 07, 2019, 05:09:26 PM
Thread resurrection. The synth rig has grown and morphed intosomething special over the years.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on February 07, 2019, 06:39:49 PM
Pics?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 08, 2019, 02:00:09 PM
I haven't snapped any pics of the whole set up recently. It takes up the whole room. But here's a little vid.

Guess that didn't work. YouTube is the only way to post a vid?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 08, 2019, 02:12:37 PM
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on February 08, 2019, 03:30:33 PM
Cool...

Quote from: RAGER on February 08, 2019, 02:00:09 PM
It takes up the whole room.

:o
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on April 10, 2019, 11:31:14 AM
Ha, thought I'd check and see what's going on here and I see this thread. Been a while. Nice to see Rager expanded the modular. Looks like the 5u stuff and 1/4" cables?!  What happened to the eurorack?

I went modular a couple of years ago myself. I love it, but mainly use my small system as a rhythm machine and use it solo and in a band. I went pretty heavy into synths and haven't played much guitar for years, but now I have another band that I'm playing guitar in. I was going to post some of that in here somewhere, because it's a sort of stoner rock.

Check out my latest release for my solo modular project. https://zenitsar.bandcamp.com/releases (https://zenitsar.bandcamp.com/releases)

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 11, 2019, 12:12:57 PM
Hey man. Long time. Good to hear from ya. I just started posting again recently. Hadn't posted in several years. Changed some stuff up gear wise and life wise. Took about a year off work. Picked up a couple kitchen gigs here and there to see if I wanted to do that again. But I didn't so I'm back in my old field.

I never had any eurorack stuff unless you count Mother 32. Yours looks like a versatile little system. Good stuff you're doing.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: neighbor664 on April 11, 2019, 01:15:08 PM
I s'pose this would fall under synth music. Kinda? Everything is notated and then is entirely played by my computer's sound card synth.
Most guitar sounds are achieved by taking a clean 'guitar' sound and virtually re-amping it.

[cloudset]https://soundcloud.com/ericdemby/sets/metal[/cloudset]
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 11, 2019, 02:46:00 PM
That could be a good writing tool too.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: neighbor664 on April 11, 2019, 07:28:21 PM
Quote from: RAGER on April 11, 2019, 02:46:00 PM
That could be a good writing tool too.


It is the original writing tool. Once upon a time composers wrote entire pieces of music as black dots on paper. Rhythm, pitch and volume could all be `recorded'. These could then be read and played by live musicians. I am doing just that, except that I don't have to pay my robot slave synth orchestra or even care about their fucking feelings or complaints that they are too `punk rock' to read charts.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: renfield on April 11, 2019, 10:13:38 PM
^^^ Wolfgang Amadeus Neighbor over here  ;D
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on April 11, 2019, 11:02:28 PM
Great stuff Neighbor664.

Reminds me of "if it sounds good on an acoustic guitar, it will sound even better with a full band".
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: eyeprod on April 12, 2019, 05:43:21 PM
Quote from: RAGER on April 11, 2019, 12:12:57 PM
Hey man. Long time. Good to hear from ya. I just started posting again recently. Hadn't posted in several years. Changed some stuff up gear wise and life wise. Took about a year off work. Picked up a couple kitchen gigs here and there to see if I wanted to do that again. But I didn't so I'm back in my old field.

I never had any eurorack stuff unless you count Mother 32. Yours looks like a versatile little system. Good stuff you're doing.

Ah, I couldn't remember what you had, so I assumed eurorack. Cool man, glad to hear you're doin' alright.

Thanks. Bought and sold a handful of modules until I figured out what I can and want to do with it. Kinda sad to have filled up the case, but I'll likely end up going up to 104hp and expand the mixer section and add a reverb. I record my jams occasionally and release the good stuff, but the experimental days for me and modular are essentially over at this point where I know what I'm doing. Now it's just write songs and set up the sounds for each song.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: renfield on May 10, 2019, 05:08:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/tIlvxii.jpg)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Plywood on June 24, 2019, 04:24:39 AM
Ever watch this guys videos? He's really into synth & builds them. I subscribed to his channel right after watching his fart synth vid.

I've been eyeing the Moog Grandmother, but at $900 it's spendy (which I guess is cheap for a Moog) and the fact that I can only play simple things on the keys like Gary Numan's "Are Friends Electric", I doubt I will be getting one anytime soon, but man I really want one.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 24, 2019, 09:00:51 PM
That would be the perfect synth for that as it's mainly a monophonic synth. I don't have one but I have s Sub 37.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on June 25, 2019, 07:24:19 AM
Moog is coming out (out already?) with the Matriarch which is polyphonic so Grandmother owners are starting to flip their synths so they can upgrade. A lot of gear hounds want the newest stuff so you can find deals on like-new equipment that way.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 25, 2019, 12:19:34 PM
Matriarch is monophonic and duophonic. Moog One is polyphonic and $8k
Title: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: neighbor664 on February 23, 2020, 02:17:11 AM
My roommate has this for the weekend.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200223/28893e6da0a52abce4f49bafe7e6506f.jpg)


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Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 23, 2020, 09:42:11 AM
I've had one since they came out. It can be a very deep synth. But it's also very fun to just use the panel controls on the fly. Been seriously considering the Matriarch.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on February 23, 2020, 11:46:37 PM
Sweet biscuits & gravy
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on February 24, 2020, 12:05:22 AM
I want one of those bad boys.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Jor el on February 24, 2020, 12:47:17 AM


   The Biscuits or the Gravy ?

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on February 24, 2020, 02:43:57 AM
Shut your trap, knucklehead!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 25, 2020, 08:42:25 AM
Quote from: socket on February 24, 2020, 12:05:22 AM
I want one of those bad boys.

They're starting to get cheaper on the used market because of the Matriarch. Totally different synths. I'll still keep mine if I get a Matriarch.

Yo neighbor did you get a chance to play around with the Sub?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 25, 2020, 11:25:01 AM
Battery powered breakfast jam.

(https://i.imgur.com/K0nMcIw.jpg)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on February 25, 2020, 12:22:27 PM
Quote from: socket on February 24, 2020, 12:05:22 AM
I want one of those bad boys.

They were like $150 off on Black Friday...
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: neighbor664 on February 25, 2020, 01:46:04 PM
Quote from: RAGER on February 25, 2020, 08:42:25 AM
Quote from: socket on February 24, 2020, 12:05:22 AM
I want one of those bad boys.

They're starting to get cheaper on the used market because of the Matriarch. Totally different synths. I'll still keep mine if I get a Matriarch.

Yo neighbor did you get a chance to play around with the Sub?

Sadly I did not.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on February 26, 2020, 03:28:45 AM
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Plywood on March 28, 2020, 08:59:19 PM
https://allthatsinteresting.com/engineer-accidentally-takes-lsd?fbclid=IwAR3Gu_HJuwLZkKCPN5IjThBNKduw3rG8k2m7okDCXoovr4eKlKArKCq3eH8 (https://allthatsinteresting.com/engineer-accidentally-takes-lsd?fbclid=IwAR3Gu_HJuwLZkKCPN5IjThBNKduw3rG8k2m7okDCXoovr4eKlKArKCq3eH8)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 29, 2020, 12:57:58 AM
Couple minutes ago. Novation Peak. NDLR Pattern Generators.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 29, 2020, 01:42:33 AM
Sorry if this is a repost. My beautiful 1984 Jupiter 6.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on March 29, 2020, 06:27:12 AM
Top Tips

OMG BONKERZ!

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on April 01, 2020, 01:45:09 AM
I have a  Teenage Engineering OP-1 (https://teenage.engineering/products/op-1). Anyone want to buy it so I can get a Polyend Tracker (https://polyend.com/tracker/)? I'll give you a deal. Anyway, this tracker thing looks like a fucking dream. I started making music in the early/mid 90's on Amiga style DOS trackers. I use Renoise (https://www.renoise.com/) mainly now, but a tracker... In hardware form? Holy fuck!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on April 01, 2020, 01:53:35 AM
Fasttracker from back in the day:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4b/FastTracker_2_screenshot.png)

Polyend Tracker
(https://c1.zzounds.com/media/productmedia/fit,600by600/quality,75/Polyend_Tracker_5_814513-ff760ca2e0a3602afa2e20e3be2cbdaa.jpg)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 01, 2020, 11:49:23 AM
I've been seeing a lot of posts about Polyend stuff. First thing I remember was the Seq. Kinda had me intrigued but I went with the Kilpatrick Audio Carbon sequencer and a Conductive Labs NDLR pattern generator.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on April 01, 2020, 12:08:40 PM
I don't look at that stuff and think OOH I want to make music with that! Fasttracker looks more like a spread sheet than a musical instrument.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: sleestak on April 01, 2020, 01:08:43 PM
socket made some pretty cool music with that spreadsheet!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on April 01, 2020, 02:03:08 PM
I don't doubt it... I'm just saying it doesn't appeal to me.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: sleestak on April 01, 2020, 02:13:30 PM
I knew what you meant.  I've never been able to wrap my head around it.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: renfield on April 01, 2020, 02:28:11 PM
I used to do a lot of sampling and sequencing but I never had the patience to really finish anything, too tempting to just let the loops run when you really need to make each repetition distinct.

Nowadays I mostly just use Logic's AI drums and jam to that
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 13, 2020, 01:35:18 AM
I booked one for a test ride. I'm not at all saavy with buttons. I hope it runs on battery power.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 13, 2020, 01:36:22 AM
Inbound

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 13, 2020, 02:00:19 AM
inbound




ed. hmm no midi, Foofoo o well. still in for a test run test run



Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 13, 2020, 02:18:09 AM
Hang on, what wires do I need? I want locktite midi clock. I guess I need "patch cord" as well? I have tons of 1/4" YRS
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 14, 2020, 12:27:31 PM
I had a Grendel drone commander a few years back. You can play it stand alone but there's more capabilities if you have other CV (control voltage) gear. CV was one of the things used before midi to sync gear together. I think if you have a Korg SQ1 you could sequence the Grendel. I've got two. They're fun to use together. I've also got a one off build 16 step sequencer that utilizes CV and also S Trig which Moog used. I used that with my MicroMoog.

As far as cables it depends on what you're connecting it to. SQ1 you'll just need TS 1/8X1/8 or 3.5mm in Eurorack speak. Or if you're connecting to MU large format modular you'll need 1/8X1/4.

Are you buying all this stuff or just trial running?  You'll have fun with the TR8S
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 14, 2020, 08:00:07 PM
Thank you for the explanation. I bought the TR8S but demoing the Grendel. I'll look at the SQ1, that might be just the ticket. I'm trying not to go anything modular, but we'll see.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 15, 2020, 08:58:10 PM
Keystep Pro maybe good for me. 4 track seq, CV outs. keys, knobs, metro, tons of lights.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 15, 2020, 11:39:34 PM
That might the one. Cv, midi, triggers prolly, sync.

Not sure. Haven't explored it yet. I've had the og  keystep for quite a while
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on April 16, 2020, 05:13:58 AM
New toy

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200416/17d1050c33630b1606f495e26e671232.jpg)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 16, 2020, 06:50:42 AM
Sweet biscuits!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 16, 2020, 09:12:48 AM
I don't know what the difference is between the first version and the XD but I had one of the very first Minilogue's to come out. Everyone was stoked including me. I got it and just didn't dig it. It performed well enough and all. Just wasn't my thing. I sold it for near what I paid. You prolly won't use the sequencer cuz didn't you get a polyend? 
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on April 16, 2020, 10:13:23 AM
Mongo not smart enough to operate Minilogue XD :(

Is it hard to use? What's it good at? Looks like no digital interface, just knobs and switches :idea:
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 16, 2020, 10:23:50 AM
If I remember right it's a 4 voice poly synth with memory and a sequencer. Synth engine I thought was from the MS 2000 which I've had many near misses to buy but just never have. But I've got a Novation Peak, Jupiter 6, MU modular, Prophet 600, Sub 37, Virus , and various other synths so I doubt I'll ever buy a MS2000 at this point.

I really haven't been gassing for anything in quite a while besides a bottom 69 Marshall cab to finish off my stack.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on April 16, 2020, 12:21:18 PM
More effects, additional oscillator, some other minor stuff. Price was close so just went with the xd, and it's black.

I'll use the sequencer for arp, etc, but yeah, just want it to fuck around with while I rot away in my apartment for the next year or whatever.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on April 16, 2020, 12:27:12 PM
The MS2000 is cool, but not so good for changing settings on the fly. It takes a couple seconds to change things up, if I recall. Is the Minilogue (minilogue, sorry) better at doing that? Can you ride the knobs and switch drastically between different sounds, like short attention span music?

Oh! I do see a digital display (not the waveform, the other one).
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 18, 2020, 02:35:39 AM
Hey you fix this shit
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 18, 2020, 09:09:48 AM
Wut?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 18, 2020, 12:05:04 PM
I need to replace the ground-rod at la casa, thats wut.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 18, 2020, 02:42:07 PM
Why
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on April 18, 2020, 06:21:25 PM
Got the Minilogue today. I'm an hour in and already fucking love it. It sounds so damn good. I honestly really like the slim keys, wasn't sure if I would. I prefer 3 octaves rather than 2 full size.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 18, 2020, 08:44:35 PM
You are the new Boss. Go 'gettum champ  8)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 18, 2020, 08:46:33 PM
Why, is a good question. How do I test for ground rod perfection? Long of it is, I want audiophile tube amplify sound magic.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on April 19, 2020, 04:55:11 AM
Started a few fucking songs. I'm completely obsessed and I think I may be in love.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 19, 2020, 02:26:11 PM
It's nice when you find a piece of gear that inspires.


I brought some stuff upstairs for the day.

(https://i.imgur.com/wGShpAP.jpg)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 20, 2020, 03:58:10 PM
Got some nice refrigertor sounds (sounded like my refer) so far, then some chirps. Had some fun industrial machine vowel sounds going. Random tinkering on the Grendel. Waiting on patch cords.



changed the file added reverb. Not that it helped lol,  just a little funny snip/jokery/
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 20, 2020, 04:00:28 PM
How do you like the Carbon and how easy is it to use? I need no-brainer boxes.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 20, 2020, 05:15:32 PM
I like it a lot. Once you get into it it's not bad. There's some menu diving involved because it's small and does a lot. It can control a bunch of synths. It's not a total mindfuck like Elektron stuff. Put it that way.

When it first came out there wasn't much in the way of instructions. Now there's a nice online manual with accompanying videos.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 20, 2020, 05:58:59 PM
Great. Yeah Elektron, I used to have a machinedrum, phat though. Looks I'm building a small kit not unlike your upstairs pic there. I may need to get a line mixer, still avoiding euro. May not be the way to go but I can use a mixer elsewhere too. I'll cobble something together...
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 20, 2020, 09:27:59 PM
You got rid of the machinedrum cuz it was a mindfuck interface right?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 20, 2020, 09:58:33 PM
That must have been it! I didn't have a grasp on it, at all. Only had it for a demo period - had to ask myself if I could make a go of it. All nopes. But the sound , still love it. 

Looking at Wavestate or the Waldorf STVC - actually want a TG33 or SY22. Just missed a TG 33 I might should have grabbed that one! 

Of course the Arturia V Collection but missed the big sale last couple weeks. Honestly, I ain't got along well with computers of late, not even ipad. Seems I can press down on real keys and buttons though!  :o
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 20, 2020, 11:21:53 PM
Okay, I'm burnin-in the Grendel going on 7 1/2 hours with this "vacuum pump"/"windshield wiper" envelope - 2 LFo's or something. Same setting running on 7 1/2 hours now. Seem ROCK solid to me! I don't know about drift, frankly, but this thing sounds the same as the last clip after the 7+ hour. I wonder if the files would null (actually, I used Normalizationo in Audacity clip two, gain boost on te first) oops, reverb on the first. I have tricks up my sleeve just yet dont you worry none.


Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 20, 2020, 11:56:51 PM
Scruff sound, don't mind that. Grendel (mono synth) recorded thru left heaphone speaker with iphone. Just burning dis in. creepy sound but this thing could work once I git mah paws onit.

warning weird but 100% monosynth (except scruff) (hey I'm new)

/derp


Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 21, 2020, 12:17:00 AM
It's great for generative synthesis.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 21, 2020, 12:24:07 AM
Some kookiness from the other night.

https://instagram.com/p/B_OrNuDh-lb/
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 21, 2020, 12:29:40 AM
Cool, I love a reverb-slammed Didgeridoo!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 21, 2020, 01:38:35 AM
Lovely vocals! Nice projection. Grazie
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 23, 2020, 02:23:13 AM
The Grendel seems quite analogue, sure, I have yet to patch it properly at all. But I can smell bacon.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 25, 2020, 08:40:57 PM
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 29, 2020, 12:16:02 AM
Keystep Pro pre-ordered. Thanks.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on May 01, 2020, 12:05:37 AM
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 03, 2020, 01:39:59 AM
Are you a Pro Bro yet?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on May 03, 2020, 01:44:46 AM
Who else is pro bro? wasnt it bolt and jor el ron?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 03, 2020, 02:21:29 AM
Heyo!  You're still up?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: renfield on May 13, 2020, 05:06:05 PM
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 15, 2020, 10:53:46 PM
I remember those kits from moogfest a couple years ago along with dfam and workstatt. I've got a mother 32 in that same size box.

I've actually been considering the Matriarch as a next synth. Thought about a Rev 2 but not since I bought the Peak.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on May 15, 2020, 11:38:11 PM
Is that Mr Moog?

Got the replacement grendel today, goodie! Shit going to get reel some more.

ed. First one was replaced under professional advice from the main man builder. Good for me I git to hear a second one and see if my ears perk up some more. Yippie-KaiAaaaa
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 16, 2020, 09:40:38 AM
What was wrong with the first one?

Did you get the Keystep Pro yet?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on May 17, 2020, 05:03:48 AM
No clue. The replacement is way better though! The SUB button sound obvious, didn't before. I was suspicious of it. KSPro still on pre-order. The RA99 is cool. Not sure what I can do with it, just tinkering unitl I get my act otgether. Key Step no where in sight, still on pre-order. I need to git my furniture/workflow figure out whil ei'm waiting...


(http://rarewaves.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/RA99-IMG9946.jpg)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Plywood on May 17, 2020, 12:24:40 PM
^ Cool! Make some jams and post them on here, mang.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on May 19, 2020, 01:23:06 AM
Will do. I'll make a song called sheetrock Plywood!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on May 19, 2020, 01:35:42 AM
    thanks
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 20, 2020, 12:26:30 PM
3 minutes of a Jupiter6 2 note arp.

(https://i.imgur.com/sGyv7J3.mp4)

https://i.imgur.com/sGyv7J3.mp4
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on May 20, 2020, 05:06:02 PM
Throbby...
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 31, 2020, 01:13:50 AM
[instagram] https://www.instagram.com/p/BL43oEMDNYu/?igshid=1h4o7n3nrbmny[/instagram]
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 31, 2020, 01:20:19 AM
Another old ne

[instagram] https://www.instagram.com/p/BKvwSs8AkiJ/?igshid=1efbm4lujoru5[/instagram]
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on May 31, 2020, 02:11:48 AM
I like the first part of that first one, when you sound like a big engine.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on May 31, 2020, 10:35:56 AM
You guys should check out the harsh noise support network on fb. Lots of cool vids of solo synth and power electronics.
They have been streaming live sets/shows. Lumpy you should see if bloater can get on. I was thinking of doing a hades mining co solo bass set since it doesnt have to be synth exclusively if they are cool with it.
I watched a few nights ago and the westward journey set was really good. Let me know what you guys think.
https://m.facebook.com/Harsh-Noise-Support-Network-104700564498666/?tsid=0.047930145549757164&source=result (https://m.facebook.com/Harsh-Noise-Support-Network-104700564498666/?tsid=0.047930145549757164&source=result) 
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on June 01, 2020, 04:21:59 AM
I am following them on FB but I haven't watched any live sets.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on June 03, 2020, 10:52:48 PM
Dang, mortlock. I really want to. Maybe they will sell vids somewhere else, then I'll copp.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on June 03, 2020, 10:56:02 PM
Cancelled the Tracker preorder. I'm thinking I couldn't run it, maybe, but too may buttons and "asteroids" type visual. Give me frogger I'm okay.


KeyPro still on preO, waiting.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on June 04, 2020, 01:41:35 AM
FOOL
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on June 04, 2020, 11:07:08 PM
let's see what you think when you get yours. Then colab on some shit brah
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on June 05, 2020, 02:59:06 AM
i've been dreaming of a hardware tracker for 25 years. i have hope. collab def.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on June 06, 2020, 12:48:26 AM
dudes, i am so in love with this thing tonight

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200606/582108754a52866e69a3e4615a6d681c.jpg)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on June 06, 2020, 01:43:32 AM
Hey whatever floats your boat. Is that BR-8 rock solid?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on June 06, 2020, 01:53:09 AM
Can it "Jump"?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on June 06, 2020, 02:07:01 AM
dude i record to zip disk for fun
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on June 06, 2020, 02:16:24 AM
oh and the BR-8 has some decent effects to dick around with
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on June 07, 2020, 12:11:35 AM
hmmm. keeping my eyes on it

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on June 07, 2020, 02:47:57 AM
yeah dude, i check my order status like 3 times a day. "to pack" fuck you. shipped is what the fuck i want.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on June 19, 2020, 03:27:44 AM
Lots of reports now for hip tweezers

Just noticed Cuckoo has a video up (true cuckoo), a month ago. I'm in a different direction now, will update
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on July 17, 2020, 03:13:52 AM
i never saw this response, anyway, i bought cuckoo's wavetable pack while getting my sames organized...

anyway, the Tracker is kind of amazing:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/96c864ad00f489aad34ff1a6e05a5f9b.jpg)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on July 19, 2020, 02:58:26 AM
Make with the bleep bloop.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on July 19, 2020, 03:05:11 AM
I've started 10+ "songs"

Soon.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on July 19, 2020, 04:50:44 AM
neato-bandito! Is it phat?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on August 17, 2020, 02:56:17 PM
An old friend I haven't talked to in years called me earlier. Said he's moving to Santa Barabara and has something he wants to give me. A theremini his brother built. His brother is an ex Moog employee and synth tech for the likes of Martin Gore, Money Mark, many others and was a close personal friend of the late great Bernie Worrell.

He just came to my office and dropped it off. I'll hook it up tonight or tomorrow. I don't deserve it.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on August 17, 2020, 11:02:15 PM
Wow. subscribed
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on August 18, 2020, 06:03:47 PM
Due to covid and some apathy from one of the members of unholy semen, i have decided to turn it into my solo power electronic harsh noise project. Blackened harsh noise. Im going to try and get on a harsh noise support network live stream show in the future. I got to do something. This shit is killing me. Broke out the gear today (this is the set up i was using for the short time i was in foot and mouth disease). Once i dust this shit off ill post some recordings.
(https://i.ibb.co/HXzTGbw/20200818-153728.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HXzTGbw)
(https://i.ibb.co/h7Bh48C/20200818-153820.jpg) (https://ibb.co/h7Bh48C)
(https://i.ibb.co/VgF3y3q/20200818-153907.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VgF3y3q)
This will all be going through a peavey bass head and randall 2x15 bass cab.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on August 18, 2020, 08:57:28 PM
I didn't know you'd gone eurorack. Fag.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on August 18, 2020, 11:33:31 PM
Eurorack till death.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on August 19, 2020, 02:10:16 AM
About time you did a solo project. Now when somebody cancels band practice, you have nobody to blame except yourself.

Unholy Semen is a great name, but maybe you wanna save it in case the band gets back together?

Who made the big silver and white units in the back row? Is that JMT stuff from Japan?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on August 19, 2020, 09:09:05 AM
Im not sure who made those. Theres no name or anything on them. I got them used from some website. i think it was the same place i got the other stuff.
I love the white one. The other one has me stumped. I havent really scratched the surface with what it can do.
I thought about a different name but im not starting over. I already have merch. There was a time back in 2014 that the switch almost happened. I booked a show and neither of the other guys ever played out before and got cold feet and said they did not want to play. I told them i wasnt cancelling and said i would play a solo harsh noise set if they pussied out. They ended up doing it. To be honest, the band was never the same after mike died. I lost a band mate but anthony lost his younger brother. He never had the same connection to the drummer we got after and became a little apathetic. If we end up playing again, the harsh noise can be the 'covid era' of the band.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on August 19, 2020, 09:51:20 AM
I'll try to find pics of JMT stuff and see if it matches up.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on August 19, 2020, 11:18:54 AM
Same style of labels as early JMT stuff. I have a recent unit, it's rad. I'm pretty sure I've seen the big silver one before, that box shape is hard to forget.

https://reverb.com/item/12168396-jmt-custom-drone-noise-synth (https://reverb.com/item/12168396-jmt-custom-drone-noise-synth)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on August 19, 2020, 11:29:27 AM
I would say my stuff is JMT based on that listing on reverb.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on August 19, 2020, 12:09:11 PM
Found it on YouTube, there's a part 1 and 3. I went to his channel and sorted by "show oldest first". Your white unit might be on YouTube too

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on August 19, 2020, 12:17:22 PM
The newer JMT stuff is really rad but it's easier to find now, so it's not that unique. The older ones like you have aren't ones that everyone can buy. It's cool when equipment is easy to find but that means a lot of people are all using the same stuff. There's probably only a small handful of units like the one you have.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on August 19, 2020, 02:05:54 PM
Thanks for posting that. Maybe now i can figure out what the hell im doing.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on August 19, 2020, 06:07:40 PM
That's how I do it (watch Youtubes). You can probably copy his patch cables to follow along.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on August 19, 2020, 06:48:48 PM
I was gonna suggest mirroring his patch to see what it does. I could look up the unit and offer assistance but I'm lazy.

/toughlove
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on August 20, 2020, 10:24:25 AM
You dont get to fuck with the eurorack.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on August 20, 2020, 10:16:36 PM
My Mother 32 is technically euro.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on August 22, 2020, 07:55:23 PM
first sesh in the books. got some work to do but its been a long time since i jammed on this gear. i forgot pretty much all i used to know about these synths. i may have been a little loud, i walked outside to do a volume check and i saw my neighbor kind of frantically looking around his house. it didnt seem loud but it was audible from his side. hes gonna have to get used to it. 
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: renfield on August 22, 2020, 08:29:11 PM
he should be made to hear the sounds
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on August 22, 2020, 08:52:11 PM
Right on morty !  Fuck em. He'll never touch your porch again.

Ahem. Song title.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on August 22, 2020, 11:04:42 PM
i can only go so far. he has a competition with the neighbor across the street who helps the disabled guy who lives next door to him. my neigb took me under his wing and started mowing my front lawn even though i always mowed it. weird but i went with it. its been a few summers and they both still compete. they do all my leaves in the fall too. its unbelievable.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on August 22, 2020, 11:06:43 PM
the first piece is 'Syphilis'.
i had the t shirt made for that one. 13 shirts total. super rare.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on August 22, 2020, 11:11:03 PM
Syphilis
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/unholysemen/syphilis[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on August 23, 2020, 04:05:11 AM
Quote from: mortlock on August 22, 2020, 07:55:23 PMi may have been a little loud, i walked outside to do a volume check and i saw my neighbor kind of frantically looking around his house. it didnt seem loud but it was audible from his side. hes gonna have to get used to it.

He probably thought his boiler was going to explode.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on August 23, 2020, 07:39:20 PM
i can get a lot done with power electronics. i just dialed in a cool sounding wall, pressed record on the zoom h-1 and went upstairs and took a shower. came back awhile later and ripped a bong and cracked a beer. fucked around with the sound for a second and before you knew it, it was over. might be the best piece of music ever recorded in history.   
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on August 27, 2020, 12:48:37 AM
SOCKET HOW'S THE TRACKER
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on August 27, 2020, 03:10:01 AM
GAZ

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on August 29, 2020, 12:46:39 AM
I jumped on the Medusa waiting list
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on September 04, 2020, 11:45:55 PM
@RAGER


Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on September 05, 2020, 12:40:14 AM
Oooh nice. That's a serious piece of gear.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: mortlock on September 05, 2020, 09:10:16 AM
That would be great for some wall.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on September 06, 2020, 04:40:22 AM
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on September 06, 2020, 04:41:48 AM
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on September 06, 2020, 05:48:37 AM
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on September 06, 2020, 10:02:10 AM
Perfect Circuit dot com has a Labor Day sale.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on September 06, 2020, 10:25:17 AM
I've always dug the Vermona 14.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on September 06, 2020, 01:25:36 PM
PC had one yesterday but now its gone, hmmm




Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on September 06, 2020, 01:26:47 PM
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on September 09, 2020, 02:05:31 AM
I got out of pre-order but now I wonder*





*nope I'll pre-order in the future. Medusa or bust.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on September 09, 2020, 02:40:12 AM
it just sits in the mix

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on September 09, 2020, 02:46:42 AM


mbase
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on September 11, 2020, 06:18:28 PM
I have that exact vocoder.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: socket on September 12, 2020, 04:31:39 AM
Dude get a tracker. Try it. They will have value forever. It is the way to make music. To a dickbag like me.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on September 12, 2020, 04:44:35 AM
Let the bleeps flow like bloop.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on September 14, 2020, 08:40:18 PM
I'm sure I've posted this guys stuff before but I've been worshiping him for years. Unbelievable talent.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on September 18, 2020, 03:00:13 PM
Been diving a bit deeper into the mid matrix of Peak. Exploring lfo destinations.

(https://i.imgur.com/JhYpWaG.jpg)

This video is a great guide. He explains things really well

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on September 24, 2020, 03:29:46 AM
Sweet Peak
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on September 24, 2020, 11:50:16 PM
The Vermona '14 was rejected. Sent it back. Why? Didn't feel it. Next. Still have Vermona tubes and filter. Will add another gadget and go to town
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on September 25, 2020, 02:57:40 AM
Hello baby, back again after a while

(https://i.ibb.co/wQYgHMD/IMG-6655.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wQYgHMD)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on September 25, 2020, 10:28:15 AM
Didn't like the Vermona?  You not into mono synths?

That Motif is pretty deep.  Pro shit.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on September 25, 2020, 10:38:40 PM
I think I'm into monosynth's. I like the Vermona sound but can't justify the cost at this time. Might go back for their perfourmer desktop. I might pick up the Karma-lab for the Motif flash ram. It's up to ver 3.3. Not sure yet though if I like the sound enough to shell out the bucks.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on October 01, 2020, 04:28:05 PM
Sequential s releasing the Prophet 5 Rev 4. Wow! 
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on October 01, 2020, 11:07:26 PM
Quote from: RAGER on October 01, 2020, 04:28:05 PM
Sequential s releasing the Prophet 5 Rev 4. Wow!

I was listening to demos for an hour this morning. Would be nice to hear one in person. Soooo many wild synths out these days. Super golden era or something.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on October 02, 2020, 02:50:12 AM
En route. So bananas

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on October 02, 2020, 03:37:31 AM
This the same, more clear

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on October 02, 2020, 10:20:40 AM
I love granular synthesis. Drums through a granular synthesizer is waaay cool.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on October 02, 2020, 03:11:51 PM
Oh really. I never even thought of drums for that. Def will do.

Have you seen the Isla SP-2400? I just found out about it. Discovered Boom Bap which obviously I've listened too but never knew the genre name for it. So, that's a thing.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on October 02, 2020, 03:34:01 PM
Yes. I've been following the progress of that one for the last year or so too. Looks pretty killer.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on October 03, 2020, 05:24:12 AM
QUN granular also FM, sequencer. my Grendel has a new friend.





Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on October 03, 2020, 05:37:09 AM
Quote from: RAGER on October 02, 2020, 03:34:01 PM
Yes. I've been following the progress of that one for the last year or so too. Looks pretty killer.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on October 03, 2020, 10:54:58 AM
Get in on the $950 by Monday. It goes up to $1500 after. You'll receive it in January. Great price either way.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on October 03, 2020, 09:22:13 PM
I was going to mention the $$$ but figured you'd already know. Maybe even December but January will work. Nevermind the option cards question I deleted it, no room on the back panel.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on October 28, 2020, 07:45:52 AM
FREE + CHEAP SYNTH SOFTWARE OCTOBER 2020
Plugins + Soft Synths to Check Out

https://www.perfectcircuit.com/signal/free-synth-software-oct-2020 (https://www.perfectcircuit.com/signal/free-synth-software-oct-2020)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on October 29, 2020, 12:37:00 PM
Cool. I don't really know anything about soft synths.  I've got Logic on a MacBook I never use but it has some of those on it and I've got a Minimoog app on my iPad. All my other stuff is hardware. I've been more into guitar lately anyway. I could see myself maybe getting a Kemper or Fractal thing in the future. But full stacks are cool too.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 06, 2021, 12:53:55 AM
Something 80's sunny I recorded a few years ago.  Might have posted it here already.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on February 06, 2021, 08:37:49 PM
Nice sound, I think I understand the Jupiter sound (on that patch) a little better, wonder if I could cop with the VC340 maybe into an fx box. Maybe this one just got. Hope the 1010 is the hub for my desktop toys, I need help with quick takes

(https://i.ibb.co/kXhv64c/IMG-7838.jpg)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on February 17, 2021, 06:28:13 AM
I need an electronics vacuum dedicated for the knobs and ports and keybeds. Get in them slots but good. Anything re-chargeable out there?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on February 17, 2021, 01:50:21 PM
There's probably something like that out there.  I've always used a semi stiff bristle paint brush for all gear.


I totally missed that blue box post.  Is it working for you?  I'll watch some demos on it.  Not exactly sure what it does.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on February 17, 2021, 11:45:48 PM
You can use compressed air. Widely available.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on February 19, 2021, 06:41:31 PM
Good idea but vacuums' suck and compressed air forces bits around. I'll get some canned air for step two. Too bad there seems to be no end to dust around here. No clue where it's coming from or how to better battle it - I've a couple room hepa filters, Merv11 filters in the forced air. I bet some of it's coming from the unpainted sub-basement concrete through leaky ductwork. Also airborne from open windows. Maybe the carpet too.


The bluesbox is waiting on cables because they don't ship with any (except does include midi adapter) and places are sold-out of cables. I need to bundle-up on all kinds of cables. Would make some myself but can't handle the 1/8 mini's and especially not a 1/8" stereo.  Nick Batt put a review that tells me the box with do about 1/2 of what I want, just a matter of whether 1/2 is enough for the cost. The size for the desktop is great for a scratchpad. One thing, it doesn't record midi at present so as a central hub...I do need to get on the learning curve with it, and maybe firmware updates will provide more function.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Submarine on March 06, 2021, 10:52:09 AM
I love this thing!

(https://i.ibb.co/Pxk9zt3/Taurus-III.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Pxk9zt3)how to download instagram photos high resolution (https://500pxdownload.com/)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 06, 2021, 11:14:33 AM
Ah the Taurus III's.  I had 1971 Taurus I several years ago.  I have a foot controller, a Sub 37  and a large format 3 oscillator modular to make those sounds now.  Is your III reliable? 

Very cool BTW.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Submarine on March 06, 2021, 11:28:07 AM
I've got a Taurus II that does not leave the studio and the Taurus III I can take out on gigs.  I use both in the studio.  The Taurus II sounds a bit warmer and more "gooey".  The Taurus III has all the modern features like memory, arpeggiator, deeper programming etc.  It sounds phenomenal but a little different.  Its definitely a conversation piece when it shows up at gigs.  First gig I ever did with it was when we were a two piece band.  People were kind of puzzled when we set up but I plugged it straight into the club's house bass rig.  Once those first few notes came out of that bass rig, everyone's head turned.  One of the most fun gigs ever.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 17, 2021, 11:10:43 PM
was working in drone mode last night, learning a little about what the pots do. I think we'll get along. But the filter, I like it, has a reach I need to cutoff -or the reso, there's a razor-thin spot on the resonnance where its almost perfect.  Had to jump on this since my dealer (and the entire network is being forced out - whatver the heck Uli is doing with distribution (It smells, to me). But got a good discount, so.... Small enough to make room. And why not? When I hear the pros play it I go "gotta have". It'll be awhile but I did get that one cool sound last night that sounds like a water drop. Haven't hooked up a keyboard, wanted to get some drone tweaks first. It's going to work but might have to effect it with another box. All bleeps and bloops for now.

(https://i.ibb.co/RcMvQKv/IMG-8563.jpg)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 17, 2021, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on February 17, 2021, 11:45:48 PM
You can use compressed air. Widely available.

Got a six-pack at the warehouse. Thanks for the headsup.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 17, 2021, 11:59:09 PM
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 18, 2021, 12:28:33 AM
FM for fiddling. Setting up the spaceship now for Summer. Get er done
(https://i.ibb.co/6RFDBkz/IMG-8564.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6RFDBkz)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on April 20, 2021, 09:34:39 AM
Is that an Opsix?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on April 20, 2021, 11:11:02 AM
Yes, it is. Obscure photo but I figured you'd spot it! It's really cool for being hands on versus a computer app. Quick to get around on. Been wanting a Korg for a long time so chanced it due to FM dedicated. Actually I wanted the FM primarily and since it was also a Korg...
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on May 21, 2021, 11:16:42 PM
Friend has one so I nabbed one YOLO
module on a piano stand pic. Seq

(https://i.ibb.co/y4zpKCm/IMG1.jpg)

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 21, 2021, 11:44:14 PM
What?!?!?!?  Damn dude!! 

Instead of roof gutters and paint I could've bought a Schmidt and a couple GRP's. Stupid adult bullshit. 
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on May 21, 2021, 11:59:22 PM
Yeah but then how would you let the neighbors know where the sex club is?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on May 22, 2021, 12:01:48 AM
Free Moog aps for iOS and Mac this weekend, for Bob Moog's birthday.

https://apps.apple.com/us/developer/moog-music-inc/id396776421?fbclid=IwAR3HfC3wssUXfnFpjVh_sBRGkJ5Uu3ovbAD0ztZgWxhdtzf9V2MA8iaBxBA (https://apps.apple.com/us/developer/moog-music-inc/id396776421?fbclid=IwAR3HfC3wssUXfnFpjVh_sBRGkJ5Uu3ovbAD0ztZgWxhdtzf9V2MA8iaBxBA)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 22, 2021, 12:05:13 AM
I saw that.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on May 22, 2021, 09:37:26 PM
neat. got all three now, instant fun. If they happen to put all the packs on sale next weekend I'll bite. If no sale, probaby get a few packs, or even all of them I'd be in at a whopping $13 for the Model 15. Basically, pass on a deluxe cheeeburger next week and I 'd break even. Might still be up for a Grandmother or Subsequent
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on May 22, 2021, 10:30:51 PM
taste test. this operator does a super job, TD-3 $129 TT-303 $299. They both sound worth it? If only one? TT or TD? TT? TT easy. Thanks. After I heard things 13:00 and after goodie-goo-goo for TT. Easy. We need hit records.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on May 24, 2021, 02:59:59 AM


(https://i.ibb.co/RDJnCNS/Screen-Shot-30.png) (https://ibb.co/RDJnCNS)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on May 24, 2021, 04:19:36 AM
Band in a box! The JMT stuff is great. I got the DNVO which seems more noisy, it was tough to decide on.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on May 24, 2021, 04:24:18 AM
excellent. Do you use a mixing board for synth's? How do you record albums? Sir mix-a lumpy
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on May 24, 2021, 04:28:31 AM
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Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on May 24, 2021, 04:30:25 AM
also, bacon bits

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on May 24, 2021, 04:41:44 AM
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Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Lumpy on May 24, 2021, 07:22:28 AM
Yeah everything for me goes through a mixer. I have a self released album from 2011 that I never put online, I should really do that. I don't have a Bandcamp page or anything. That record was recorded live in my practice space on a Zoom H2 with me, and my band mate at the time on guitar (it's  just me now). I like to combine different sources and bring them in/out or up/down with the mixer. I have a couple of synths (microkorg and microbrute) but I've never performed with them, but I use them as a source to make samples, which I play back with a Roland 404 -sp. Before I got the sampler it was more low tech, with just like simple Etsy type oscillators going through stompboxes, and stompboxes going through other stompboxes. Feedback loops, microphone feedback, etc. I wanted more repeatability and less randomness so I got the sampler. I'm not too much into traditional synthesizers, I don't play keyboards and I'm not into the process of synthesis or creating sounds from scratch. I'm more of a sound mangler?

I got a new mixer last year but I haven't incorporated it yet, it has all kinds of routing options (A/B out, C/D out, for example) and I don't know how to take advantage of that yet (Mackie 802VLZ4). My first mixer was a basic Behringer, I think the Mackie can do stuff I don't know about yet. Like, if I could do a quadrophonic mix that would be cool! But I don't know.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on May 24, 2021, 11:47:45 AM
excellent. Not sure where/how to post that but would be cool to post up.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on May 24, 2021, 12:11:50 PM
Don't forget the Din Sync RE 303.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 06, 2021, 11:29:17 PM
Korg Opsix related.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on June 07, 2021, 12:28:33 AM
Cool thanks for posting his stuff, I hadn't seen that channel before.
Been listening to alot of Monologue patches lately just haven;t pulled the trigger on it yet. Sounds good to me though for the droney. Just came across this one , new channel to me.

ed. changed the vid
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 07, 2021, 12:35:38 AM
Jexus is a synth lord. Check out all the channel. The Access Virus Ti. Wow.

Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on June 07, 2021, 01:04:37 AM
so much bacon
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on June 07, 2021, 01:53:17 AM
it is silver with wood pop
(https://www.dijkmanmuziek.nl/uploads/webshop/Korg%20Monologue%20Silver%20angle.jpg)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on June 07, 2021, 02:51:52 AM
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on June 07, 2021, 02:56:22 AM
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on June 07, 2021, 03:06:28 AM
that dude has better vids super smart chap

Who's this? 5:20
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 07, 2021, 11:14:52 AM
@ 5:20 is UTU Synchronia.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on June 08, 2021, 01:16:01 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on June 14, 2021, 02:30:02 AM
Hydrasynth LED menu system /tuning/  W. Carlos micro .something. wtf

(https://i.ibb.co/3dGKnmp/IMG.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3dGKnmp)
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on June 14, 2021, 10:02:27 AM
A Wendy Carlos preset?
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: Muffin Man on June 15, 2021, 04:45:19 PM
That's it. Latest firmware brought microtonal tuning. I haven't played with it yet but it's one of her custom scales. I'll make up something atmospheric and post sometime. Its a cool synth and deep but super accessible/easy to use.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on November 04, 2022, 07:10:24 PM
Maaaaan.  It's been a bit since I've done some synth connectivity. Brought some gear upstairs and been busy tryna figure out what plays well with what. Daaahhh. Giving me a headache.

Having a hard time with sequencing my Carbon to my Moog.

Menu diving.
Title: Re: all things SYNTH & KEYBOARD thread
Post by: RAGER on March 27, 2023, 11:16:59 AM
Check this junk.

(https://i.imgur.com/b07KaXf.jpeg)