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Title: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: whoshotthefrog on March 25, 2020, 06:57:41 PM
Does anyone else have any preorders with ATIH for Heavy Psych Sound records? I have 4 preorders in and I am still waiting on them. I know he sent out an email 3 weeks ago that he hasn't received them because of money issues or something like that. I'm starting to get fucking annoyed about it.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Adam on March 25, 2020, 07:03:04 PM
I did get an email earlier today from Heavy Psych saying all their upcoming releases have been postponed. Not sure if that is connected in any way to delays in prior orders?
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: RacerX on March 25, 2020, 07:16:45 PM
Nah, I quit ATIH in the El Danno era—zero $$ spent there since the "hack."
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: whoshotthefrog on March 26, 2020, 11:39:30 AM
I did get an email earlier today from Heavy Psych saying all their upcoming releases have been postponed. Not sure if that is connected in any way to delays in prior orders?


I think the email you got was about items you ordered directly from them will be delayed due to the shutdowns, etc from the corona virus. My issue is the guy who runs ATIH doesn't have the money to pay for the Heavy Psych records he listed for preorder weeks ago. So, until he gets enough cash they won't send the records to him. It's a shitty way to run a business by him especially since he got my money for my orders weeks and months ago.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: socket on March 26, 2020, 05:49:55 PM
Have you tried asking him?
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: whoshotthefrog on March 26, 2020, 06:48:56 PM
He sent something out about 3 weeks ago in one of his newsletters. It's below.  He could have communicated this a lot sooner. I was just curious if others bought these preorders and what their thoughts were. At least my preorders from other labels are coming in.

Update on Heavy Psych Sounds pre-orders.

I have not received my latest shipment yet, this is my fault.  Last year destroyed me in many ways, and one of them was financially.  I'm still trying to get on my feet in that sense.  I will get them here ASAP, but in the meantime, if you would like a refund or to cancel your order, feel free to contact me.  orders@allthatisheavy.com  Additionally if you have a pre-order in that included in-stock items, and would like your other items shipped, don't hesitate to reach out.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: renfield on March 26, 2020, 07:14:41 PM
He couldn't fulfill my Obelisk hoodie order and he got back to me very quickly when I reached out.

Sucks that he's having a rough go at this
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Jor el on March 26, 2020, 08:08:10 PM


   He responded to my email.

Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: MadJohnShaft on March 26, 2020, 08:09:30 PM
The millennials like Adam, frog, racer x and refelds don’t really know how not complaining publicly works. Outraged! 
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: renfield on March 26, 2020, 08:44:03 PM
That's true, I had to put him on blast on instagram to get my money back
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: socket on March 27, 2020, 02:59:10 AM
You might just want to email him, at least as a first step.

$10 memberships due soon.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Jor el on March 27, 2020, 11:03:12 AM


   I plan to charge $10K

Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: whoshotthefrog on April 25, 2020, 06:53:00 AM
So, I ended up messaging ATIH and I got back a generic email in return. All it said was the “we will come back even better” mantra. I don’t want to hear that bullshit.  The reply email wasn’t even from the original email I sent him, and he didn’t answer any of my questions. Now the website is down. I ended up filing claims through PayPal so hopefully I’ll get my money back. One of my orders was from October. The 180 days on that order expired so I won’t get my money back on that specific order. However, I reordered everything from Heavy Psych Sounds Records and even though it’s coming from overseas, and shipping was 25 Euros, I will be getting everything either today or Monday. Took less than a week.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: MadJohnShaft on April 25, 2020, 07:56:37 AM
He went out of business eh?
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: RacerX on April 25, 2020, 09:24:01 AM
The millennials like Adam, frog, racer x and refelds don’t really know how not complaining publicly works. Outraged!

I know how boycott works, and this dude didn't fleece me, so fuck off, Ritchie Rich.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: sleestak on April 25, 2020, 09:37:59 AM
Not taking a side one way or the other but it always seemed as though an online record sales business might have a tight profit margin.  Yes/No?   Dude wasn’t really living extravagantly.   Maybe he’ll come back and make it right.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: whoshotthefrog on April 25, 2020, 10:04:03 AM
The millennials like Adam, frog, racer x and refelds don’t really know how not complaining publicly works. Outraged!

I know how boycott works, and this dude didn't fleece me, so fuck off, Ritchie Rich.

I don't mind being grouped together with these guys.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: whoshotthefrog on April 25, 2020, 10:07:58 AM
Not taking a side one way or the other but it always seemed as though an online record sales business might have a tight profit margin.  Yes/No?   Dude wasn’t really living extravagantly.   Maybe he’ll come back and make it right.


Even if he comes back I'll never order from him again. I only placed orders with him to save money on shipping from Europe, but he was price-gouging everything he sold.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Muffin Man on April 25, 2020, 10:10:32 AM
omg, none of those variables matter.

Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: MadJohnShaft on April 25, 2020, 11:07:26 AM
You can't expect him to run a business at a loss. Hardly 'price gouging' when you are struggling to make minimum wage.

Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: RacerX on April 25, 2020, 11:12:08 AM
The millennials like Adam, frog, racer x and refelds don’t really know how not complaining publicly works. Outraged!

I know how boycott works, and this dude didn't fleece me, so fuck off, Ritchie Rich.

I don't mind being grouped together with these guys.

I'm down with that part of it, but "millennials"?  ;D
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Muffin Man on April 25, 2020, 11:39:51 AM
millenials sh'emenials  ::)
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Lumpy on April 25, 2020, 08:13:50 PM
You might just want to email him, at least as a first step.

$10 memberships due soon.

Paypal'd
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: juan11 on April 25, 2020, 08:18:18 PM
But the forum is still going, right?
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: socket on April 25, 2020, 08:30:36 PM
lol, he seems to have completely checked oot. perfectly sr.com style.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Muffin Man on April 25, 2020, 08:36:23 PM
You sayin' he got woke?
ed. ooops, I thought we were talking about Jor el.

whoopsie


Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: MadJohnShaft on April 26, 2020, 07:57:28 PM


Well, who the hell is going to buy shipped physical media from a third party?  Maybe at a show to throw some money at a touring band. Or from the label direct.



Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Adam on April 26, 2020, 08:09:54 PM
I still buy plenty of music from Amazon when it's cheaper; free 2 day delivery, and usually a download to hold me over while I wait. And I like Bandcamp for the library feature and having my purchases accessible on any computer, but when Amazon is cheaper and quicker I still go that route.

Never bothered with the new ATIH and in all honesty doubt I would bother with the old one if that was still around. It was an amazing resource back in the day, but now its an expensive and outdated service. I guess there are some exceptions, like the situation with Frog courtesy of Heavy Psych charging outlandish prices for their physical product, but seems like that would be a more random situation.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: juan11 on April 26, 2020, 08:35:29 PM
I have a friend in the biz that passed on purchasing that whole shebang from danno.


He’s still in the biz.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Pissy on April 26, 2020, 08:40:19 PM
I blame Lee Dorian
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: renfield on April 26, 2020, 09:38:18 PM
I still buy plenty of music from Amazon when it's cheaper; free 2 day delivery, and usually a download to hold me over while I wait. And I like Bandcamp for the library feature and having my purchases accessible on any computer, but when Amazon is cheaper and quicker I still go that route.

I'm curious if it's more advantageous for the artist if you buy it through Bandcamp or Amazon. You'd think Bandcamp is the obvious choice but it's also possible Amazon can give small sellers lower overhead fees, given that they are a more megarich company than Bandcamp.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Vanman on May 06, 2020, 07:38:13 PM
Sounds like an update is coming soon from the guy who runs the thing. Dipped in to check the status of the Brant Bjork pre-order. Since it's from an italian label, figured it would be delayed, but it sounds like the guy owes money to Heavy Psych Sounds and paying them isn't high on his priority list via his fartbook post on May 3rd.

www.facebook.com/AllThatIsHeavy/

So...refunds? Hope I'm not getting the shaft as I did when ordering via Man's Ruin right before they went belly up. Not a dime back since both Frank and the distro people said the other party was the ones who owed me. Scoundrels in the music biz? Who'd of thunk.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: socket on May 06, 2020, 07:57:43 PM
casey posted some kind of thing showing he paid a bunch of bills. was cryptic.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Vanman on May 06, 2020, 08:04:27 PM
casey posted some kind of thing showing he paid a bunch of bills. was cryptic.

I don't get him posting teaser stuff, it's just going to piss off more people on both sides.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: juan11 on May 07, 2020, 01:49:40 AM
First I’ve heard of their Facebook page.

Looks like it got sucked into the void.

Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Lumpy on May 07, 2020, 04:33:33 AM
I hope he didn't get hosed. This seems like the wrong time to get into the record business. Unless you're doing it for love and don't mind losing money/just breaking even. And that was even before Cabronavirus.

Think about all the new businesses that just launched in the past few months.  :'(  I know a guy who just started a small specialty record shop. I think they were open for 4 months.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: MadJohnShaft on May 07, 2020, 08:50:09 AM
It's not 'if' it's 'when'.


How do the rappers and their labels still make money?
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Vanman on May 07, 2020, 08:57:52 AM
It's not 'if' it's 'when'.


How do the rappers and their labels still make money?

Laundering money? Big dicks and AK's?
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Pissy on May 07, 2020, 10:50:04 AM
Isn’t right about now when $10 from everyone will fix things?
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: renfield on May 07, 2020, 11:15:42 AM
It's not 'if' it's 'when'.


How do the rappers and their labels still make money?

I know Roc Marciano was doing like, $40 digital downloads that you could get for a week before the album dropped on streaming platforms. On hip hop forums "real fans" would boast about how they listened to it for the whole week before the poor folk got their hands on it.

(He claimed it was really successful)
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Vanman on May 08, 2020, 12:33:25 AM
Casey's post of the ATIH fartbook page an hour ago:
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As a human, I wish the guy the best.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Muffin Man on May 08, 2020, 12:43:27 AM
I guess the question from here is how does one make bank in the biz, if you want to peddle, say, some chewy sku's.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Lumpy on May 08, 2020, 12:43:49 AM
He tried, gotta give him credit for trying to make the business work, it’s a crappy situation. I wonder if he can get any Cabrona money from the government.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Muffin Man on May 08, 2020, 12:46:45 AM
Not when biggy biz is milking that teet.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Muffin Man on May 08, 2020, 12:53:25 AM
the last sentence really gits me

Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Muffin Man on May 08, 2020, 01:01:31 AM
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Vanman on May 08, 2020, 01:02:54 AM
Maybe Dong can buy the distro with his wall street profits and make it a slam dunk.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Muffin Man on May 08, 2020, 01:11:04 AM
Buy the ticket take the ride
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: juan11 on May 08, 2020, 01:13:41 AM
Sucks all around.  What can you do... you know... now.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Vanman on May 08, 2020, 01:15:09 AM
I will say one cool thing he did was honor the "stoner bucks" or whatever it was from when he acquired the biz, hooked me up with a bunch of shit.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Muffin Man on May 08, 2020, 01:35:16 AM
Tell us what you copped!
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: MadJohnShaft on May 08, 2020, 07:17:11 AM

Ah that's sad but not unforeseen you know? He really tried but the double wammy of divorce and virus would kill any business.

Seems like a good guy to me.

Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Vanman on May 08, 2020, 09:15:45 AM
Tell us what you copped!

Can't remember, it was a few years ago. I did orders with them 5 or 6 times a year, depending how heavy I was hitting the sauce and drunk shopping.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: whoshotthefrog on May 08, 2020, 10:55:41 AM

Ah that's sad but not unforeseen you know? He really tried but the double wammy of divorce and virus would kill any business.

Seems like a good guy to me.


Not sure how you can say that when he took people's money and never gave an explanation on anything. Too me he's done nothing but make excuses.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: juan11 on May 08, 2020, 12:01:21 PM
Yeah, I feel like we should go back to making fun of him a little.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Adam on May 08, 2020, 07:02:34 PM

Ah that's sad but not unforeseen you know? He really tried but the double wammy of divorce and virus would kill any business.

Seems like a good guy to me.


Not sure how you can say that when he took people's money and never gave an explanation on anything. Too me he's done nothing but make excuses.

Doesn't matter he has to say, really. If you can't deliver the services promised, you return the money. Who does he think he is, the airlines?
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: MadJohnShaft on May 09, 2020, 12:45:29 PM




What did we expect? This guy would solve a 20 year old business puzzle that eludes dozens of 50 year old multi national companies?


Yo money gone, son.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Vanman on May 10, 2020, 10:56:18 AM
Ripping people off who have a lot of spare time on their hands, as well as his home address. Quite the range of possibilities for rather unstable folks out there.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Vanman on May 18, 2020, 06:21:36 PM
Update:
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Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: renfield on May 18, 2020, 06:43:35 PM
Bernie would have bailed out ATIH instead of the giant banks (the REAL bad guys)
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: juan11 on May 18, 2020, 07:21:44 PM
I heard he diddled a secretary. PROVE ME WRONG.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: MadJohnShaft on May 19, 2020, 07:59:42 AM
Adam shouldn't be threatening  his family

Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: whoshotthefrog on May 19, 2020, 02:14:48 PM
I woke up this morning to find out that all of the claims I put in via PayPal were ruled in my favor. I received all of my money back for all of the orders I placed with ATIH and did not receive
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: RacerX on May 19, 2020, 02:37:28 PM
And you didn't even have to threaten his family—way to go, frog!
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: dong ytown on May 19, 2020, 05:19:31 PM
This dude was so happy when he was shipping out Sleep albums at all hours nonstop, he was posting videos and pictures each week of all the Sleep albums, talking how great it was for his family, that drew a red flag to me immediately, because what about any other albums and what about when Sleep dries up. I knew he was done then, especially after I checked their catalog and about puked, it was small and it was garbage. Fucking loser. Next couple years his few posts were about his failed marriage, like anyone gave a fuck.

This had nothing to do with coronavirus, but people losing their business or jobs because of coronavirus probably put all their eggs in one basket. We've all been there, it makes us better the next time.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: socket on May 20, 2020, 01:23:50 AM
yeah, what a fucking loser.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Muffin Man on May 20, 2020, 02:12:57 AM
Congrats, frog. Keep us posted, as usual, re new vinyls.
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Muffin Man on May 20, 2020, 02:14:29 AM
probably put all their eggs in one basket. We've all been there, it makes us better the next time.

and, how
Title: Re: Heavy Psych Sounds preorders via ATIH
Post by: Vanman on May 20, 2020, 09:39:03 AM

put all their eggs in one basket. We've all been there, it makes us better the next time.

Gotta diversify those stocks, bitches!