[Classic Rock] Guarantee you haven't heard a song like this in a long time

[SensoryOverload]

Alright alright I admit I exaggerated the title to get people to check out this thread , nothing particularly groundbreaking here haha. But I recently released a Hard Rock song with my band project and am looking for some constructive criticism. Figured you guys could give me some considering your big fans of teh fuzz

I'm interested to hear what you guys think of everything and any criticism or constructive feedback you could give me.

GENRE: Hard Rock, Stoner Rock, Classic Rock, Alternative, .etc .etc

YOUTUBE:

SOUNDCLOUD:
[soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/sensoryol/one-last-shot-sensory-overload[/soundcloud]

Thanks for checking it out. Shoot me a PM if you want some more or want me to check out your music as well.

[mortlock]

not bad. depends on what youre looking for.

[Chest Rockwell]

not enough yarling.

[SensoryOverload]

not enough yarling.

Interesting

What do you mean by yarling?

[spookstrickland]

I enjoyed the riffage, good tone, you have nice clean vocals but your melody and delivery sounded like Praise/worship music.  Every time ive been in a church I hear that exact melody and delivery from the band.  Id rework your melody, and give the delivery a little extra grunt in the chorus and you will have something really awesome.

Just my two cents

[SensoryOverload]

I enjoyed the riffage, good tone, you have nice clean vocals but your melody and delivery sounded like Praise/worship music.  Every time ive been in a church I hear that exact melody and delivery from the band.  Id rework your melody, and give the delivery a little extra grunt in the chorus and you will have something really awesome.

Just my two cents

Thanks for the input brother glad you liked the riffage and toans. Interesting about the vocal delivery being similar to praise/worship music, never even imagined that. I'll have to tell my singer about that for sure haha. As for some more grunt I agree I personally wish his voice had a bit more deepness to it (were working on it) but for recording it's hard because the vocals clip big time if he gives a real yell into the mic

Definitely shoulda went to church

[Lumpy]

It's not heavy (which is a problem).

[RacerX]

not enough yarling.

Way too much yarling.

[Submarine]

Band can play, singer can sing, this is not bad.  However, the song is a bit stock.  There is nothing special about the actual song that would make it stand out.  Keep at it, there is clearly potential here.

[Lumpy]

Band can play, singer can sing, this is not bad.  However, the song is a bit stock.  There is nothing special about the actual song that would make it stand out.  Keep at it, there is clearly potential here.

I agree with that.

[Beta Cloud]

well written, nice toanz, (guitar sounds like a humbucker/twin/fuzz at noon, how far off am i?), cool vocals. an almost alt-country vibe, (which i like), wilco-ish, in a very cool way.
i'm a guitar player in a stoner band and i listen to/play mostly over the top heavy stuff but always look for bands like this to cool my head.
very cool.

[Beta Cloud]

not enough yarling.

Interesting

What do you mean by yarling?

yarling=this twat.

[SensoryOverload]

Band can play, singer can sing, this is not bad.  However, the song is a bit stock.  There is nothing special about the actual song that would make it stand out.  Keep at it, there is clearly potential here.

I agree with that.

Thanks guys, it was the easiest most poppy-generic (4 chord) song I've ever written making it very easy to teach to the singer. that's why it was first haha plus most of the other demo tracks have tempo issues which would be trickier to record vocals over. Most stuff is a bit more alternative/stonery. I'm gonna tweak the structure cuz its quite cliche

well written, nice toanz, (guitar sounds like a humbucker/twin/fuzz at noon, how far off am i?), cool vocals. an almost alt-country vibe, (which i like), wilco-ish, in a very cool way.
i'm a guitar player in a stoner band and i listen to/play mostly over the top heavy stuff but always look for bands like this to cool my head.
very cool.

Thanks my man, I wasn't expecting an alt country vibe at all actually but I can kinda hear it. The guitar sound was bridge pickup, stock on a Yamaha SA800 (so humbucker i think) semi hollobody with fuzz about noon as well, you're not too far off! Was a while ago tho so the memory is a bit hazey

[somedude]

3 or 4 times during the song there's an extra beat and it's fucking up the groove. It's a laid back tune, you have a nice 6/8 going on, I'm bobbing my head, then the song stutters as you hold a beat too long and I'm jarred out of my relaxed state wondering wtf just happened.

Next, I'm not getting a strong sense of drive out of the bass and I notice in your Sig you're guitarist and bassist. It feels as though you recorded the guitar and drums first, then added the bass afterwards. The bass feels disconnected and meandering, thus no solid foundation and a lack of beat emphasis. If this is what you did then track the drum and bass first, lay down the groove with an accent on the 1 and 4, then track your guitar.

Lastly, I'd toss some modulation on your solo. Movement makes things stand out, but your solo is dry while your background rhythm is phasing... So guess what, now I'm checking out your trippy rhythm sound and ignoring your sweet solo. Vary the speed and use the movement to grab attention (record dry and do it in post processing so you have more control). Use slower speeds on long notes to create tension, then give it a quick burst of speed to break things up.  Your solo already builds in successive waves towards a climax, then you blow your tremolo wad, roll over and go to feedback sleep. Use movement to support that.

IMO.

[Chest Rockwell]

somedude, can you check out my band below and rip into it please?? will give me ammo to shoot the other guys with 

[somedude]

somedude, can you check out my band below and rip into it please?? will give me ammo to shoot the other guys with  

Sure...

You'd sell more music if you were on iTunes.  I spent 20 minutes trying to buy your album and couldn't find a way, iTunes or otherwise.  Your band URL sends me to some site that sells furniture.

As for musical criticism... I listened to the 5 tracks from the 2014 album posted on YouTube and I thought the music was great (did I mention I want to buy your album?) Sometimes your tempo varies but overall you guys play tight and even when your timing wandered you did it as a unit.  Sonically, the drums were occasionally a little modern/dry/tight IMO (Growth of Soil).  That said, most of the time the drums were big and open and awesome.  Varied by track, and sometimes within the track.  Loved the overdrive and fuzz tones on the guitars.  Bass was awesome.

[Chest Rockwell]

ah cheers man! i cant believe our fucken site has lapsed! that's hilarious! just about sums up the band really, plenty of promise but fucking woeful attention to detail!! aye we'd talked about itunes but we *talk* about a lot of shit and get fuck all done. moan moan!

we played all our recordings live and had em tweaked here so aye, timing probably does wander!! im with you on all your comments, thanks! 

[SensoryOverload]

3 or 4 times during the song there's an extra beat and it's fucking up the groove. It's a laid back tune, you have a nice 6/8 going on, I'm bobbing my head, then the song stutters as you hold a beat too long and I'm jarred out of my relaxed state wondering wtf just happened.

Next, I'm not getting a strong sense of drive out of the bass and I notice in your Sig you're guitarist and bassist. It feels as though you recorded the guitar and drums first, then added the bass afterwards. The bass feels disconnected and meandering, thus no solid foundation and a lack of beat emphasis. If this is what you did then track the drum and bass first, lay down the groove with an accent on the 1 and 4, then track your guitar.

Lastly, I'd toss some modulation on your solo. Movement makes things stand out, but your solo is dry while your background rhythm is phasing... So guess what, now I'm checking out your trippy rhythm sound and ignoring your sweet solo. Vary the speed and use the movement to grab attention (record dry and do it in post processing so you have more control). Use slower speeds on long notes to create tension, then give it a quick burst of speed to break things up.  Your solo already builds in successive waves towards a climax, then you blow your tremolo wad, roll over and go to feedback sleep. Use movement to support that.

IMO.

Thanks for the feedback my man. You're the first guy to notice the extra beat errors and stuff which I can attest mostly to the fact we didn't use a tempo- more so recorded some scratch guitar while my drummer tapped a snare in the background haha (which caused lots of problems in the final product. You're spot on about my recording- I always do the guitar to the "scratch tempo" and then add drums and bass last. I have a real hard time mixing bass, not sure if it's because of my lack of playing ability or mixing but I just can't get it to "bump" or kick out and separate from the other instruments.

As for the solo, I recorded it in with a fuzz and a touch of reverb and then added a load of reverb while mixing and cranked the volume to give it that screaching noise. So you're saying to only add that reverby touch to certain parts? I'll work on that for next time. Thanks for all the insight!

[somedude]

As for the solo, I recorded it in with a fuzz and a touch of reverb and then added a load of reverb while mixing and cranked the volume to give it that screaching noise. So you're saying to only add that reverby touch to certain parts? I'll work on that for next time. Thanks for all the insight!

Listen to the intro to Lightning Crashes.  That effect is called flanging, and for whatever reason that's the sound I hear in my head when I hear your solo.  Not the cheesy pedal type, but the sweet studio type, and in the case of the song I posted it's a manual flange and not automatic, so there's no rhythmic warble to it.  You should be able to apply it in post processing via plug in. Experiment with different settings.

[mortlock]

you guys need more lo fi noise in your lives. that way you don't get all hung up on making your music sound good.

[Beta Cloud]

you guys need more lo fi noise in your lives. that way you don't get all hung up on making your music sound good.

THIS.