What about these drums?

[Harm]

Honestly, would you have heard they are e-drums if i hadn't told you?

[Discö Rice]

yes, but don't take it personally.

[VOLVO)))]

Yeah, I hear it, too.

[Corey Y]

Sounds ok, there's just not a lot of dynamics to the cymbals. Especially the ride, sounds almost like the same hit over and over. In a mix it probably wouldn't be noticeable to most listeners. If you have any way to tweak the velocity on the ride I think that would improve it.

What are you using now?

[Corey Y]

...or is that the real high hat going throughout? In that case you just have solid right hand technique 

[Chovie D]

drummers always seem able to tell. guitarists like me are like ..yeah sounds real!

[Harm]

...or is that the real high hat going throughout? In that case you just have solid right hand technique 

It is indeed, i've been practicing since i was a teenager and when i started drumming it came in handy. 

[Harm]

drummers always seem able to tell. guitarists like me are like ..yeah sounds real!

Well, the hi hat is real which makes it sound much more realistic to my opinion.

[Naxzul]

The reverb helps and to the casual listener it'd sound real. Not bad though, I've heard way worse.

[liquidsmoke]

Sounds like drums recorded in a pro studio. I'd say that's a good thing. I would never have guessed they were electronic.

[Harm]

Thanks.

@ liquidsmoke, are you a drummer?

[blackkrosses]

The cymbals. That's the first give-away. Snare sounds good, but fake. Good drum sound otherwise, though, I'm not ganna hate on drum machines.

[EddieMullet]

Sounds like 80's studio drums, my personal preference would be less reverb, but that's just what I like.

I've run a drum machine through a PA(for highs and mids) and a bass amp(for the lows) and mic'ed the PA speakers and the bass amp and that kind of helped.  The songs ultimately sucked ass(just badly written songs) but the drum tracks sounded decent.

[Pundan]

I couldn't tell the difference, then again I'm not a drummer.

[giantchris]

Couldn't tell the difference but I'm not a drummer.  I will say that in a mix it'd be very difficult to tell its e drums.

[liquidsmoke]

Thanks.

@ liquidsmoke, are you a drummer?

No, I can only play very simple beats. Drumming amazes me.

[Harm]

The cymbals. That's the first give-away.

You're wrong cause like i stated earlier they are real.

[Harm]

No, I can only play very simple beats. Drumming amazes me.

The point you made about the drums sounding like they are from a pro studio is exactly what it's supposed to sound like and what i have in mind with them. I have been experiencing with e-drums for a bit now and to my opinion the only thing that can't be replaced are the cymbals.

[blackkrosses]

The cymbals. That's the first give-away.

You're wrong cause like i stated earlier they are real.

The ride is real? You have the most even touch ever then.

[Discö Rice]

No, I can only play very simple beats. Drumming amazes me.

The point you made about the drums sounding like they are from a pro studio is exactly what it's supposed to sound like and what i have in mind with them. I have been experiencing with e-drums for a bit now and to my opinion the only thing that can't be replaced are the cymbals.

Most drummers will figure it out the moment you play a fill. Acoustic drums don't resonate like the ones in your post (not talking about the reverb, just the natural attack and decay of a drum) when played fast. Another dead giveaway is if the meter's a little shaky but somehow it sounds like a perfect hit every time.

[Harm]

The ride is real? You have the most even touch ever then.

I wasn't conscious of it earlier, but thanks!

[Harm]

Most drummers will figure it out the moment you play a fill. Acoustic drums don't resonate like the ones in your post (not talking about the reverb, just the natural attack and decay of a drum) when played fast. Another dead giveaway is if the meter's a little shaky but somehow it sounds like a perfect hit every time.

Keep in mind that the drums in my post are also compressed and mastered, which obviously blows up the frequencies that you don't hear when playing an acoustic set. Plus the sounds of the software are from real kits and recorded with the best material. I may need some more examples to prove my point, but i am quite confident it could work for a studio album.

[Harm]

Example two:

[Discö Rice]

Right, but it's always going to sound like a repeated sample of a perfect hit, or a limited range of perfect hits varying slightly in still unrealistic resonance. Not even a mastered snare drum with blown up frequencies has exactly the same attack every time you hit it, especially when you're varying in dynamics, which I do a lot when I'm playing fills.

Like this song, in which Dave Lombardo essentially solos through the all the choruses.

The first chorus is at 1:10, if you feel like skipping through. Tons of dynamics in the fills, realistic drum sound (no triggers), and from that clip, even if you didn't know it was Dave Lombardo, you can tell he uses two bass drums, as opposed to a double pedal. Even though it's mastered, with a touch of reverb and compression, it sounds organic.


Essentially we're talking about the difference between cloned hits being triggered and a real live player. It's noticeable. Why bother with that technology when better technology (real drums, microphones) already exists?

[Harm]

Point taken Disco Rice!