POG Position? Before or after dirt?

HommeHomie · April 17, 2013, 03:00:15 AM

Hey guys. I'm a noobie to the forum with quite a few pedals. I'm a huge fan of quotsa/kyuss/them crooked vultures tone. I'm looking to get peoples opinions on the placement for the EHX Pog in an effects chain. I can get all kinds of great sounds at home level volumes but I'm looking to get peoples serious opinions for when you are up on stage with the volume cranked.

Sorry if I'm breaking any rules. I tried a search on the forum about this topic and didn't come up with much. I've googled it and people are awfully mixed on their opinions.

juan11 · April 17, 2013, 03:04:27 AM

Send Elizabeth a bmail-- her boyfriend will know.

Jor el · April 17, 2013, 05:14:06 AM

If you're looking for serious opinions you've come to the right place (IMHO).

MadJohnShaft · April 17, 2013, 06:07:56 AM

There's a musician forum for this boring fucking bullshit,

Shaytan · April 17, 2013, 06:10:07 AM

I seriously think you should ask this in the jam room and if you don't take thems people's opinions seriously, at least take them into consideration. You can try all of thems people's opinions and try them out, or do you have a gig tomorrow morning?

mulekicker · April 17, 2013, 08:32:57 AM

You should ask these questions in the jam room, but if it was me I'd definitely put it after any dirt pedals. Especially if you're using fuzz as they like to be first in the chain. It's really up to you and what your ears tell you sounds better, but I'd go guitar,dirt, pog, time based effects like delay and reverb, amp. If you give a rundown of your pedals in the jam room we can give you a pretty good idea of what signal chain would probably sound best.

VOLVO))) · April 17, 2013, 09:43:42 AM

Put the POG after dirt, before modulation.

RacerX · April 17, 2013, 10:11:10 AM

Pls move this dirty POG convo to the J Room, thangavarrymudge.

HommeHomie · April 17, 2013, 11:31:33 AM

I appreciate the quick feedback guys. I'm digging the sound after the dirt. The POG seems to be tracking better for sure. I'll make sure I keep this type of discussion in the Jam Room from now on. Thanks

MadJohnShaft · April 17, 2013, 11:57:49 AM

You better or I'll shove that shit right up your ass

Musicians are so stupid.

RacerX · April 17, 2013, 12:06:56 PM

Quote from: MadJohnShaft on April 17, 2013, 11:57:49 AM
You better or I'll shove that shit right up your ass

Musicians are so stupid.

You wouldn't know a Maj6 from a min7 chord, and if you tried to keep 9/8 time, your head would explode.

jibberish · April 18, 2013, 09:13:05 PM

he knows the imbecilical chord. he needs to exercise more to produce the wood chord with authority tho.

edit for reality due to newer person's presence:

MJS loves music. MJS has an incredible sense of humor. just look at his thread titles. he is very subtle at times. at other times he dishes out the perfectly replayed rage script. we all know it , so we watch and enjoy the performance.

many of us join in with more crap, laughing all the way. I personally like playing with words when I dish out crap.

clockwork green · April 19, 2013, 12:34:58 PM

I like it before dirt so that I'm giving my dirt a clean signal so you get more clarity for the octave. My POG goes first on my board. I tend to go octave-dirt-modulation-delay-reverb-looper

HommeHomie · April 21, 2013, 10:45:03 PM

"edit for reality due to newer person's presence:

MJS loves music. MJS has an incredible sense of humor. just look at his thread titles. he is very subtle at times. at other times he dishes out the perfectly replayed rage script. we all know it , so we watch and enjoy the performance.

many of us join in with more crap, laughing all the way. I personally like playing with words when I dish out crap."-jibberish

Thanks for clarifying jibberish. Sarcasm is sometimes lost.

jibberish · April 22, 2013, 06:31:27 AM

lol, yay, you came back. I felt like that one needed some explanation

bluesprojection · May 02, 2013, 10:39:28 PM

Run it before all your distortion/fuzz pedals. Its an octave pedal! Run your boost pedals after the pog.

Discö Rice · May 03, 2013, 01:16:24 AM

Before the dirt sounds best on paper. Having played both ways, which do you prefer? Do you have sound files up somewhere so we can pass some real serious judgment on you?

beerrhino · May 25, 2013, 10:02:55 AM

I've tried it both ways and my POG hates a dirty signal. If it's not first in the chain I get garbled nonsense.

VOLVO))) · May 25, 2013, 11:19:20 AM

Quote from: beerrhino on May 25, 2013, 10:02:55 AM
I've tried it both ways and my POG hates a dirty signal. If it's not first in the chain I get garbled nonsense.

Really?

This is the POG fed some dirt and played chorded most of the time.

beerrhino · June 08, 2013, 11:33:28 AM

Maybe it's just mine Sunn, or maybe it's my fuzz, but I can't even run the pog after my boost pedal

clockwork green · June 08, 2013, 11:42:51 AM

Sunn, how was your POG set up in that video? I've only listened to it on my ipad's speakers but I honestly can't even tell it's on. Are you blending in a low octave or something smipler like that with no or little detune?

VOLVO))) · June 08, 2013, 11:56:54 AM

Oh, it's definitely there. It makes up more than half of that tone. It was set level cranked, low octave 80%, everything else down, filter 80%, dirt before it.

clockwork green · June 08, 2013, 05:13:31 PM

iPad speakers aren't exactly known for their lowend. I've listened to bass clips before and thought the video wasn't working then I remembered they cut off everything down there.

Ombrenuit · June 10, 2013, 09:43:24 AM

Wouldn't dirt mess with the tracking of the octave?

MichaelZodiac · June 10, 2013, 10:44:48 AM

That's why a POG works better than that brown Boss octave pedal. That thing can crap out with dirt, the POG not so much.