For Mig/Sovtek fans Mike Matthews on Sovtek amps

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Baltar

May 02, 2012, 08:02:04 PM
Friends don't let friends play solid state amplifiers.

bitter

#1
May 02, 2012, 08:20:08 PM
I could listen to him talk about amps all day.

BIG plus on that 'stache. He looks like David Crosby  :D



Oh Andy I'm gonna go over to mount pilot and worship Satan

At_Giza

#2
May 02, 2012, 09:29:31 PM
Of course the Mig 30 is his preference (I like them, I've used one, and I want one). Heh

Jor el

#3
May 03, 2012, 09:08:22 PM

Grooviness
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clockwork green

#4
May 03, 2012, 10:35:42 PM
He must have played the worst 800 on Earth if he things a Mig100U sounds better.
"there's too many blanks in your analogies"

Jake

#5
May 03, 2012, 10:44:06 PM
^^^

Ha! He seems like the type of fella that need to be perceived as a "road less travelled" type of person.
poop.

bitter

#6
May 03, 2012, 10:51:40 PM
I'm probably confusing models, but I thought the mig 100's (U/H versions???) were supposed to have a better low end response? I always that and their lower cost (in past years) were a big selling point around these parts.

Not taking sides, that guy set off my BS detector from the get-go.
Oh Andy I'm gonna go over to mount pilot and worship Satan

Jake

#7
May 03, 2012, 10:55:24 PM
I've owned both Mig 100H and a JCM800 (and a Mig 60). I liked the Migs plenty, but they're not an 800, including the low end.
poop.

VOLVO)))

#8
May 03, 2012, 11:00:06 PM
yeah... glasses guy is full of shit.
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VOLVO)))

#9
May 03, 2012, 11:00:47 PM
Quote from: Jake on May 03, 2012, 10:55:24 PM
I've owned both Mig 100H and a JCM800 (and a Mig 60). I liked the Migs plenty, but they're not an 800, including the low end.

>JCM800
>Low End

choose one. ;D ;D
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bitter

#10
May 03, 2012, 11:07:50 PM
Thanks for clarifying guys. For the record, once the mig 100's started hitting the 8 bill mark, my boner went away. Same with the 60's and really the other marshall killers, too. The migs were, however, the 1st "stoner rock" amp I was introduced to. My buddy wanted one after reading about them here as far back as '02-3. Gear is so much like porn; I miss the days when it was new and exciting.  :-\

Oh Andy I'm gonna go over to mount pilot and worship Satan

VOLVO)))

#11
May 03, 2012, 11:08:36 PM
8 bills for a mig100? Fuck clean off.

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bitter

#12
May 03, 2012, 11:10:22 PM
^ Yep, them's low-end 800 prices (at least in recent years)!
Oh Andy I'm gonna go over to mount pilot and worship Satan

Jake

#13
May 03, 2012, 11:12:17 PM Last Edit: May 03, 2012, 11:13:57 PM by Jake
It's simple supply and demand economics. When the supply is low*, the demand (& price) increases.

* the supply is low because they all broke
poop.

bitter

#14
May 03, 2012, 11:15:59 PM
I imagine their solder joints were as cold as a Russian winter.
Oh Andy I'm gonna go over to mount pilot and worship Satan

VOLVO)))

#15
May 03, 2012, 11:22:48 PM
They ain't that bad. I've fixed on a few. The mig100s kind of rule.

the 50s are better.

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Jake

#16
May 03, 2012, 11:57:57 PM
Oh sure, I'd take just about any Mig if the price was right. But I don't think I'd be gushing about it to a (mostly indifferent) Mike Matthews though. I would like to hear the 30 watt he was talking about. Appears to be one of those "happy accident" moments that are hard to replicate.
poop.

clockwork green

#17
May 04, 2012, 12:52:40 AM
The 60's are the best I've heard.  I had a 100H for a long time...got it brand new for $300 when they were still being made.  Jacks were all broken, instantly.  I had it modified by Voodoo Amps and it became really awesome but I eventually sold it.  I can't imagine why they're going for $800...definitely some misguided Kool Aid. 
"there's too many blanks in your analogies"

Baltar

#18
May 07, 2012, 09:12:14 AM
I had to change out all my pots, and had good Marshall switches put in.  But yes $800 is a lot of crank for those amps.  Traynor YBA's and YVM's are still in the $450-$700 range in Toronto.  (Shhhh, poor-man's Plexi/Bassman).
Also they are point-to-point.
Friends don't let friends play solid state amplifiers.

Mr. Foxen

#19
May 07, 2012, 09:17:33 AM
Gah, he actually pushes up his shorts to express his love of the 30 with his balls.

SoupKitchen

#20
May 07, 2012, 10:43:35 AM
As far as the Mig 30, Mike Matthews talks about compression and the power transformer, so sag in the HV line. Schems of the Mig 50 are available. I wonder how small you'd have to make the power tranny to get that kind of sag with a solid-state rectifier. However, it has been reported that JTM-45s are only 38 watts or so on a good day, so it sounds easy enough to design.
Would anyone pay for a well-built clone of a Mig 50, itself pretty much a clone? That's like cloning a Peavey Windsor or a Bugera 1960.

VOLVO)))

#21
May 07, 2012, 10:52:59 AM
The mig 50 was only rated 45 watts per the back of the amplifier.
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mutantcolors

#22
May 07, 2012, 12:33:08 PM
Is it just dumb to think there's some magic secret that's been revealed in using a transformer that is outclassed?

dunwichamps

#23
May 07, 2012, 12:42:06 PM
using a underratted PT or a OT with a poor bandwidth is a way to get a certain sound. You can sag the PT HVDC if the secondary current is rated under what you would expect to achieve with a given pair of tubes.

if you want a Mig clone just have someone build you a Marshall with replica iron you can get from a bunch of sources such as Merc, Mag Comp, Heyboer, Hammond....
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