orange tiny terror or OR15?

[everdrone]

Jesus, I'm not trying to start a war here. I was specifically asking about low wattage Orange comparisons. It's for my living room, something I can play through in front of my 19 month old daughter and not blow her eardrums out (that'll come later). I personally dig the tiny terror line, just wanted to know how the OR 15 compares to that. Don't need to argue about new vs old, pre amp vs power amp, headroom, blah, blah.  Come on now, most of us here are professionals that know what we're talkin about. We're dudes that have been doin this for awhile and we all have our opinions based on experience. It's not amateur night at the Apollo, no one needs to get tap danced off stage for diggin a newer Orange.

lol!  

I dig the band DOWN and they proudly use ORANGE thunderverb 50s. you gotta crank that amp to make it HUGE  ALSO, it takes fuzz pedals great too! very versatile. here is my fav fuzz pedal video of the Orange TV50:

I have an epiphone valve junior combo and I can tell you that it will certainly blow your 19 month old's ears out!  way too loud, well over 90 decibels and way too loud for a 2 story apartment, and probably most smaller residential neighborhood jamming if the next door neighbor is sleeping (I know about htat one when I was growing up).  90dbA is too much for 4 hours of use for adults and will cause permanent damage, a lot worse for kids, you may wanna get them hearing protection earmuffs.

if your 19 month old will be in the room, dont get a tube amp if you are cranking it, even if it is a 1/4 watt blackheart killer ant

[mulekicker]

Yeah, I used to have a valve Jr. It needed to be cranked up to sound decent. Was good with a fuzz in front. My wife is a deaf ed teacher so the baby's ears will be safe. That's one of the reasons I like the tiny terror, it sounds good to me at lower volumes, if that's what I'm goin for, without any pedals on the floor. I'm gonna pick up one of those micro terrors at some point just cause they're so fuckin cute.

[jibberish]

heh. jake the swami.

ok, maybe I can add 2 helpful cents.

I have a fender greta. 12ax7/au7 with a little 4" speaker. it can sound nasty when it is barely audible if you turn the tone down and run a hotter PuP like from a les paul.   you can jam out at about the same volume as your unplugged guitar plays if you want

BTW, when Madonna plays guitar in any of her shows(I mention her because she is a pro's pro, whether you like her act or not) she uses orange amps. 


ALSO, if you want to attenuate to 1/4 power, parallel a resistor the same as the speaker impedance acoss the speaker, then add 1/2 that value in series(like a series parallel 4 speaker hookup)

[apekillman]

Down only recently became endorsed (?) / starting using orange amps.  There's a very good chance what you hear on all recordings in not orange at all.



With that being said, I have an old (late 70s or120) and a new (mid 00s AD140) and like the tones from both

[everdrone]

ya, most bands dont ONLY use the amp they play all their tours with on their records. I dug the tone they get live.  Same with Mastodon - saw them live using Thunderverb 50s, saw Down live with Thunderverb 50s.  I would like to see Rival Sons - they use or used Thunderverb 50s live too!
DOWN TV50

MASTONDON TV50

RIVAL SONS - ORANGE

[Jake]

Saying that a high gain amp with the gain turned down is the same as a low gain amp is like saying a Ferrari stuck in rush hour traffic is the same driving experience as driving a Honda Civic during the same traffic.  They're not at all the same.

This is not even a remotely accurate analogy. Nope. I don't even have dignify by explaining why.

I'll admit that I started this off being a smartass (which really only is/was a reaction to hearing the same rehashed internet gripes, ad infinitum, and prempting them). But I was especially patronizing to you personally about the gain knob, and I should apologize to you.

But I refuse to follow the mantra that everything was better in the past. And if your powerful-yet-low-gain tube amp – a nod to the past, undeniably – works for your purposes, I couldn't be more happy for you. Just know that there's no question that an amp (that people are all too ready to dismiss as a weak-kneed modern day disgrace to the Orange name) absolutely ABSOLUTELY can do that very same thing. And as a bonus, it's got a lot more on tap for those who choose to run Guitar --> Cable --> Amplifier.

PS - mother's milk:

[Jake]

OP... Mr. Kickerofmules... look at the Yamaha THR10. I got one when the ol' lady worked nights for a bit. Killer little headphone type amp, but it's much more than that. It's a great little recording amp with tons of useful effects and a very fun and capable strummin' on the couch amp.

[VOLVO)))]

I just don't think they sound very good, modern metal tones kind of sound like a clear bag of smashed assholes looks. I don't care if it's Orange, or Diezel or Fortin, or Soldano, or VHT/Freyette, Boogie, Peavey, whatever, if it has shitty tone it is shitty. Tone is subjective opinions are like assholes, etc. That's where my hate for these things come from. I haven't clicked with any of these new Oranges, they're confused. They wanna be an Orange, they wanna be metal madness, but to be an Orange they gotta be what Orange was, to be metal madness... They are too mushy. I tried everything with that RV100 that was giving me all that shit and could not get usable death/black/grind blah blah blah tones.

Diff players, diff amps, all sound kinda meh to me.

[mulekicker]

Yeah Jake, I checked those out awhile ago and they seem pretty cool. My whole point for this thread though is that I found a tiny terror combo for cheap and I'm pretty set on buying it as I've wanted one for awhile. I just wanted opinions on that OR15. I'm gonna buy the TT. Down the road I'll pick up some other little amps I'm sure, as they suit my need for where I'm at right now. Roaring, vintage non master volume amps, while beloved, are not what I'm in the market for presently. So, end of thread, mind made up.

[everdrone]

I was wanting a tiny terror combo for awhile to replace my $100 epiphone valve junior combo

be sure to check out http://www.humbuckermusic.com/ for the best prices on new gear, as a lot of times I see used gear selling for more than what http://www.humbuckermusic.com/ charges! 

also, they sell 10" tt combos that are a lot cheaper

[clockwork green]

I don't hold vintage designs as some special grail of tone. In fact I've said multiple times that there is better gear available now at all price points than there has ever been and in an absurd amount of variety. I just don't hear the same thing or even close enough to satisfy me in the new Orange stuff. I want nothing more than for Orange to make great amps again...I'm so willing to over pay for something of quality with them that it's almost embarrassing. Maybe it's why I'm also extra frustrated with them. I'd take a second rate repro of a classic OR just like Marshall's current Plexi's and they just won't do it.

Also, this is the internet and emotional maturity is strictly forbidden. One of us needs to insult the other's race, sexuality, religion or socio-economic status and then throw in some chest beating and hyperbole.

[VOLVO)))]

Jake likes fag guitars, and his band wears big pants, and has a lesbian bass player.

REBREATHER!

[mulekicker]

I know for a fact that Jake only plays headless guitars and collects rack mount digital chorus units. He plugs those fuckers into a Roland jc120 and let's the free jazz flow. Don't let him fool you.

[apekillman]

i would say more like wigger than lesbian.

[dogfood]

Saying that a high gain amp with the gain turned down is the same as a low gain amp is like saying a Ferrari stuck in rush hour traffic is the same driving experience as driving a Honda Civic during the same traffic.  They're not at all the same.

This is not even a remotely accurate analogy. Nope. I don't even have dignify by explaining why.

I'll admit that I started this off being a smartass (which really only is/was a reaction to hearing the same rehashed internet gripes, ad infinitum, and prempting them). But I was especially patronizing to you personally about the gain knob, and I should apologize to you.

But I refuse to follow the mantra that everything was better in the past. And if your powerful-yet-low-gain tube amp – a nod to the past, undeniably – works for your purposes, I couldn't be more happy for you. Just know that there's no question that an amp (that people are all too ready to dismiss as a weak-kneed modern day disgrace to the Orange name) absolutely ABSOLUTELY can do that very same thing. And as a bonus, it's got a lot more on tap for those who choose to run Guitar --> Cable --> Amplifier.

PS - mother's milk:

It's funny, Plant got better with age.  JPJ, has always and will always kick ass until he is dead.  JP still needs to practice.

[dogfood]

Rival Sons, wow, what can I say.  Shit's come full circle now hasn't it.  Hipster Bad Company.  Better song writing but the singer is a chip off the old classic rock block. 

[VOLVO)))]

Jake's tour axe

[Jake]

Close, but not pointy enough. This is my custom version. It's a little tricky to jump around on the neck, but she's a looker.

[VOLVO)))]

*slow clap*

Bra. fucking. vo.

[Jor el]

Heh

[clockwork green]

Needs 8 strings to be taken seriously today.

[mulekicker]

I'm surprised you let Dean make your signature model that pointy knowing your proclivity for 360 degree guitar spins around your body. 

[Jake]

I'm surprised too, especially considering my guitar strap is a repurposed bandsaw blade.

[dogfood]

Close, but not pointy enough. This is my custom version. It's a little tricky to jump around on the neck, but she's a looker.

Quietly understated...like a Pontiac.

[mulekicker]

So...after all my talk about wanting a tiny terror, I went to go buy one today and ended up buying a used Egnater Tweaker 15 1x12 combo instead. So far, no regrets.